If the rumor of war with Iran is true then

[bluestarone]

Can or will the DEM. house agree to funding it? What are your thoughts?

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Is that what he is gonna do, I predicted long time ago when justice came calling he

would start a war.

[bluestarone]

3. Yea from what i'm reading on this thread

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211501675

[unblock]

11. Frankly I'm amazed it's taken so long

But a reasonable, albeit cynical, president would manufacture a war with a Grenada. Not a country like Iran. That would be a disaster of epic proportions on so many levels.

[bluestarone]

12. true BUT

They are backed into a corner? And Putin and RUMP i'm sure are figuring out ways to stop the WHOLE situation? Does the new house hold the power of the purse to stop funding? Would the pentagon AGREE to this bullshit? SOO many questions to be answered for this country's future!

[The Genealogist]

16. I am too

I expected our country to be in a couple of new wars by now. As to whether we end up in a war with Iran, Trump doesn't care if he causes a disaster of epic proportions, he only cares about money and adulation directed toward him. And, a war with Iran would get him both.

[Iliyah]

15. Yes, the GOPers thru BiBi wanted to attack Iran for sometime.

Since the 2000 Bush and administration ignored Clinton, we were attacked by basically Saudi Arabia citizens but alas blamed Iraq.


Prize for Iran is the oil (think Iraq). Prize for Israel would be finally destroying their enemy.

[empedocles]

2. Logic suggests getting the 'con House to fund a war in December

[pecosbob]

4. Saudis (Sunnis) want to kill all the Iranians (Shiaa)

Iranians are clients of Putin and the Russian kleptocracy. I bet Putin would withdraw his support of the Iranians if the Magnitsky sanctions were dropped...the Exxon arctic deal with Rosneft stands to bring the Russians trillions of dollars, with a 'T', but Magnitsky prevents it. Makes you wonder what that low-five was really all about.

[Oneironaut]

5. If that's true, we would suffer a momentous defeat.

There is no incentive to go to war against Iran. Tens of thousands of Americans would die, and many multiples more of Iranians. For what end?

Even if we “won,” we would lose. Extremists would overrun any feckless puppet government we installed, and would wait us out until we left.

I’m not speaking of purely a military defeat. We “beat” Iraq very quickly, and then wasted trillions of dollars and lives trying to put the genie back into the bottle. There will be no flowers thrown at our feet.

[bluestarone]

6. AGREE

Think the new House could (would) stop it?

[Oneironaut]

9. Trying to shoe-horn a war through Congress in under a month would be a laughable act of stupidity.

Trump could declare a police action, and make things even worse. He’s arrogant enough to do it. If he wants to be historically disgraced and get good Americans killed, sure, why not? I’ll never put anything past such an arrogant man.

[ooky]

17. Well, he's already historically disgraced

so that won't give him any pause to starting it. He's dangerous. If he can't shoehorn through Congress and he wants it he will start it anyway.

[pecosbob]

10. Congress passing a law against sure didn't stop Reagan from waging war on Nicaragua

Dems won't even have to power to do this...the Senate would block any legislative action.

[mucifer]

7. Greed and power. Seems that's the reason for most wars.

[RockRaven]

8. Withholding funding is both a) too slow/after the fact and b) a PR/political disaster

because of the absolutely inevitable hue and cry to "support the troops"

What should happen if Trump starts a war with Iran is a revocation of the AUMF, a resolution that Trump has violated the War Powers Resolution, and impeachment.

[AJT]

13. This was proposed in April, did it pass?

President Donald Trump would get broad authority to use force against terrorist groups, with no expiration date, under a new bipartisan proposal unveiled in the U.S. Senate on Monday.

[KWR65]

14. Yes. They will say it's bad then vote for it.

The American Empire shall not be stopped.