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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you can't tell me the fucking DETAILS of how you'd run the country...
Then you aren't fucking QUALIFIED to be a president!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/17/romney-adviser-campaign-specifics_n_1797570.html
So far, putting Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney's ticket hasn't led to any detailed plans for his top issue, the budget. That won't change, according to a Romney aide who spoke to Politico.
"The nature of running a presidential campaign is that you're communicating direction to the American people," a Romney adviser, who is not named, told Politico. "Campaigns that are about specifics, particularly in today's environment, get tripped up."
The issue of the budget, particularly taxes and cuts to entitlement programs, is a pivotal one for the election and is one both campaigns are trying to exploit. For the Romney campaign, that has meant accusing President Barack Obama of decimating Medicare by taking funds from it for his health care law, even though that is a false claim. Ryan's own budget would transform the program to make it almost unrecognizable.
Another Romney official, also unnamed, told Politico the campaign isn't scared to talk about Medicare. "We'll do it for as long as they want," the official said. "Let's do it."
That doesn't mean talking in specifics, however. Romney was vague about his budget plans during the Republican primary -- he said he would cut funding to Planned Parenthood but not much else -- and will continue to be, according to the adviser.
Seriously!
We can't ask about this asshole's past tax returns. We can't ask about this douchebag's one term in the only election he has ever won (governor of Massachusetts), We can't ask about this nitwit's time running the 2002 Olympics AND We can't ask about what this dirtbag's time running Bain. Now We can't ask about the specifics in regards to things that could have a major impact on most of the United States including jobs, medicare, social security and healthcare because *gasp* god forbid we hear the details we'll go screaming into the night as we run to the polls and vote for someone else.
GUESS WHAT - this is NOT a fucking popularity contest. You want to win a popularity contest run for Prom King or Mr. USA or some bullshit position like that. I'm in my 40s and the choices made by whomever wins could have a major impact on not just my life my millions of people like me. I have the right to know the details so I know I'm voting for the person that has the best interest of me and the other 99% of the USA (those who don't have trust funds to live off of).
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)...and meanwhile MANY of the same villains, miscreants and psychopaths that inhabited the court of cheney*/bush* wait in the shadows for their cue to slither back into national prominence.
GObamaGO
(665 posts)AND you cannot tell us the details of your plans to run this country, you are eminently unqualified.
Z_I_Peevey
(2,783 posts)cleduc
(653 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)(and btw just kidding)
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)over my policies and most of them are pretty good. I can't give you the details, you'll just have to take my word for it".
kentuck
(111,079 posts)What are people thinking!?
NoQuarter
(577 posts)"Get that nigger outta the White House."
Pretty much the extent of it.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... had it been a direct quote from an individual it still might not have been acceptable.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I've met enough people who have said just that and it is disgusting. I grew up in a part of this country where this was pretty much the norm.
That's the reality of many of these right-wing voters. They feel the USA has always been the land of Whites-privileges since we first landed here hundreds of years ago, forced Africans from their homeland to do our dirty work and gathered up all the native Americans and forced them to live on reservations. Many of these people are generation after generation of hateful people that feel like each generation they are giving away a bit of that 'Whites-privileges' and would love nothing more than to turn our country back that way. This is the type of voter that we are dealing with and they are hateful hateful hateful people.
As for me - I believe what was said on the Statue of Liberty.
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
Having said that perhaps the original poster could just change it to n-word.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)Bastard B**h Administration, we are supposed to TRUST these lying bastards. Even since leaving office, the LBBA has engaged in rewriting history because even they know what lying bastards they were. NOW they're concerned about their legacy.
I really hope people are not as shortsighted as I fear.
librechik
(30,674 posts)Don't they realize we are right behind them watching them ? They really are NOT invisible, like they think, the loons.
riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)You produce the blueprints/plans in detail of what you propose to do.. You also produce factual details/papers of what you have done. You have a resume and you do an interview and answer all the questions asked. If you can not do that then you should not be applying for the work/job.
Show us the INCOME Taxes Romney.
klook
(12,154 posts)These morons want us to buy a pig in a poke.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Can you build a house?
Yes
Any examples of houses you've built
Can't show you that
Can you show me your past history of house building
Can't release that information
Can you show me blueprints of what you can build
Can't give you the details
Ok I'll hire you
Edit Note: Then when they get their crappily built house built and it falls down - they blame democrats for the problem
Go figure.
klook
(12,154 posts)Stuart G
(38,419 posts)PatSeg
(47,405 posts)he couldn't win that either. He really has no redeeming qualities that I can see.
Meanwhile, I have yet to hear him say anything specific about his policies - "Well, we'll have to work that out with Congress, blah, blah, blah........"
Oh well, "The trees are the right height" and he "loves cars". I'm sure that's enough.
Javaman
(62,521 posts)You think there's something there, but there really isn't.
shawn703
(2,702 posts)So in his mind that makes him more qualified than Obama. So it should make him more qualified in everyone else's mind too.
genxlib
(5,524 posts)This represents the nadir for campaigns built on misinformation.
Real information is not needed (or desired) when you can fill the void with 24 hour networks, radio and Super-PAC funded propaganda.
Unfortunately, this tactic has been far too successful (2010?)
But this is why the Ryan pick is such a gift. He was naive enough to believe that he should actually write his ideas down and make his people vote for them. The RYAN budget is all we need to show voters what they really are.
It is merely a bonus that they are so arrogant that they can't seem to keep the normally supplicant press happy. They seem to be kicking them in the teeth and daring them to do their job.
renate
(13,776 posts)I really wonder just how long it'll be before journalists from CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC--everybody other than Fox reporters--get fed up with their outright bullshit. It's one thing for politicians to spin, another for them to stand there and lie with straight faces.
Welcome to DU!
BarackTheVote
(938 posts)He thinks he can just stand there, looking smug while not being Obama, and win. It's very frightening that polls are as close as they are
tclambert
(11,085 posts)"And when you vote, you vote in secret. So, put it together. You get it, huh? Secret plans, secret vote, secret SuperPAC donors--don't forget them--secret you, secret me, and the next thing you know, we all profit! Or at least me and my friends who own things do. How? Shhh. It's a you know what."
Blue Meany
(1,947 posts)give about a book to maximize sales. You have to tell enough about it to sell the book, but not so much that some potential buyers will realize this is the book they want. My sense is that with. Although Romney has revealed almost nothing about himself or his policies, my sense is that that the campaign has already passed this ideal point and they know it. Anything more that is revealed is going to cost him votes. That's why they keep Romney away from the press, limit interviews to very friendly interviewers, and will probably limit debates. That only leaves them with the option of attacking Obama, which is what the plan to do.
Cosmocat
(14,563 posts)as noted, he wants to run on his business experience, but talking about Bain is a PERSONAL ATTACK!
He wants to slam "Obamacare" but you can't talk about "Romneycare."
He has spent over a year now talking in a deriding manner about the President, but then turn around and ball about negative campaigning - after he scorch earthed a half dozen challengers to shreds in the primary.
The reality is that 1) They really don't have much to run on against this president outside of a slow recovery 2) They know what they WANT to do is so extreme they can't possibly win by saying what it is.
This has to be the most pathetic presidential campaign in my life, at the very least the worst since Clinton ran for reelection.
But, with their money and the "liberal" media, SOMEHOW they are within range of BO.
Stunning, just stunning.
yoyossarian
(1,054 posts)Of course, some questions are better left unasked...
Wednesdays
(17,346 posts)If you recall, all questions about Smirky's past were absolutely verboten. And you couldn't get specifics from him about anything... That didnt matter, what was important was how mean Al Gore was, how Al Gore claimed to have invented the Intertubes, and how Shrub was the guy everybody could have a beer with.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Telly Savalas
(9,841 posts)If it's not a popularity contest, then why do candidates spend so much money on substanceless 30 second ad spots?
Until voters decide to punish at the ballot box candidates who lack substance, assholes like Romney and Ryan are going to behave the way they do.
gulliver
(13,180 posts)They are willing to play political Russian roulette on the hope that they aren't the ones who will lose. It's a kind of sickness, but I'll bet there are a lot of Romney/Ryan voters who think that way.
That is the kind of mood that Republican elites encourage in their working and middle class rubes. "The other guy is bad 'just because,' and I'm better 'just because', and nothing anyone says, true or false, good or evil, changes that." It's just a mood. It's a figment. But it's easy to get relatively simple minded people who are disappointed with life for some reason to fall prey to it.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)that some how their magical touch to getting rich will rub off on them.
This is also why lotteries are so popular.
We see the dream on TV, we want that dream but getting it isn't by voting for them.
Snarkoleptic
(5,997 posts)All RNC needs is someone with enough fingers to hold a pen.