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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:01 PM Aug 2012

If you can't tell me the fucking DETAILS of how you'd run the country...

Then you aren't fucking QUALIFIED to be a president!!!

Romney Adviser: It's 'Politically Unwise' To Campaign In Specifics


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/17/romney-adviser-campaign-specifics_n_1797570.html

So far, putting Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney's ticket hasn't led to any detailed plans for his top issue, the budget. That won't change, according to a Romney aide who spoke to Politico.

"The nature of running a presidential campaign is that you're communicating direction to the American people," a Romney adviser, who is not named, told Politico. "Campaigns that are about specifics, particularly in today's environment, get tripped up."

The issue of the budget, particularly taxes and cuts to entitlement programs, is a pivotal one for the election and is one both campaigns are trying to exploit. For the Romney campaign, that has meant accusing President Barack Obama of decimating Medicare by taking funds from it for his health care law, even though that is a false claim. Ryan's own budget would transform the program to make it almost unrecognizable.

Another Romney official, also unnamed, told Politico the campaign isn't scared to talk about Medicare. "We'll do it for as long as they want," the official said. "Let's do it."

That doesn't mean talking in specifics, however. Romney was vague about his budget plans during the Republican primary -- he said he would cut funding to Planned Parenthood but not much else -- and will continue to be, according to the adviser.



Seriously!

We can't ask about this asshole's past tax returns. We can't ask about this douchebag's one term in the only election he has ever won (governor of Massachusetts), We can't ask about this nitwit's time running the 2002 Olympics AND We can't ask about what this dirtbag's time running Bain. Now We can't ask about the specifics in regards to things that could have a major impact on most of the United States including jobs, medicare, social security and healthcare because *gasp* god forbid we hear the details we'll go screaming into the night as we run to the polls and vote for someone else.

GUESS WHAT - this is NOT a fucking popularity contest. You want to win a popularity contest run for Prom King or Mr. USA or some bullshit position like that. I'm in my 40s and the choices made by whomever wins could have a major impact on not just my life my millions of people like me. I have the right to know the details so I know I'm voting for the person that has the best interest of me and the other 99% of the USA (those who don't have trust funds to live off of).

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If you can't tell me the fucking DETAILS of how you'd run the country... (Original Post) LynneSin Aug 2012 OP
Give them a break - they haven't received their orders yet! hedgehog Aug 2012 #1
Trust them, says darth cheney*... Raster Aug 2012 #7
If you cannot release the details of your income tax returns GObamaGO Aug 2012 #2
Preach it, sister! n/t Z_I_Peevey Aug 2012 #3
"YOU PEOPLE need to stop being so small minded!" cleduc Aug 2012 #4
Ok who let Ann Romney have an account here at DU???..... LynneSin Aug 2012 #5
"I've had a look back CJCRANE Aug 2012 #6
Really !! kentuck Aug 2012 #8
What passes for thinking in their heads... NoQuarter Aug 2012 #9
Suggest you edit your post. The use of the "n-word" is offensive and not appropriate for DU... Scuba Aug 2012 #21
It is offensive but I hate to say it LynneSin Aug 2012 #33
After 8 years of Lying xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #10
For THEM it's unwise, because the specifics are either nonexistent or damning. librechik Aug 2012 #11
If you are trying to get hired for a contract for work. riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #12
Great analogy klook Aug 2012 #13
Could see typical GOP low-IQ voters looking for contractors LynneSin Aug 2012 #16
That sure would make a good ad (n/t) klook Aug 2012 #17
k & r thanks for posting...nt Stuart G Aug 2012 #14
And if it WAS a popularity contest PatSeg Aug 2012 #15
The Ghost Candidate. Javaman Aug 2012 #18
He's a rich white guy shawn703 Aug 2012 #19
We don't need no stinkin information genxlib Aug 2012 #20
well said, especially the last two sentences renate Aug 2012 #28
So... BarackTheVote Aug 2012 #22
"You want the secret details of my secret plans? Well, you can't have them. They're SECRET!" tclambert Aug 2012 #23
In marketing(book marketing, at least) there is an ideal amount of information that you Blue Meany Aug 2012 #24
It if flat out past the point of being pathetic Cosmocat Aug 2012 #25
Awesome, Lynne! You speak my mind EXACTLY! yoyossarian Aug 2012 #26
Deja vu... It's Campaign 2000 all over again Wednesdays Aug 2012 #27
Mitt Romney, charlatan and coward. n/t ProSense Aug 2012 #29
It is a popularity contest Telly Savalas Aug 2012 #30
Some of the more gullible Republicans are in a morally broken mood, I think. gulliver Aug 2012 #31
I think there is this odd belief that if you vote for the richest guy to be president... LynneSin Aug 2012 #34
He doesn't need to know specifics in order to outsource government to the RNC. Snarkoleptic Aug 2012 #32
R & R are bait and switch con artists. Always have been. It's their business/governing model. freshwest Aug 2012 #35

Raster

(20,998 posts)
7. Trust them, says darth cheney*...
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:10 PM
Aug 2012

...and meanwhile MANY of the same villains, miscreants and psychopaths that inhabited the court of cheney*/bush* wait in the shadows for their cue to slither back into national prominence.

GObamaGO

(665 posts)
2. If you cannot release the details of your income tax returns
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:05 PM
Aug 2012

AND you cannot tell us the details of your plans to run this country, you are eminently unqualified.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
6. "I've had a look back
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:09 PM
Aug 2012

over my policies and most of them are pretty good. I can't give you the details, you'll just have to take my word for it".

NoQuarter

(577 posts)
9. What passes for thinking in their heads...
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:09 PM
Aug 2012

"Get that nigger outta the White House."

Pretty much the extent of it.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
21. Suggest you edit your post. The use of the "n-word" is offensive and not appropriate for DU...
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 04:45 PM
Aug 2012

... had it been a direct quote from an individual it still might not have been acceptable.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
33. It is offensive but I hate to say it
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:38 PM
Aug 2012

I've met enough people who have said just that and it is disgusting. I grew up in a part of this country where this was pretty much the norm.

That's the reality of many of these right-wing voters. They feel the USA has always been the land of Whites-privileges since we first landed here hundreds of years ago, forced Africans from their homeland to do our dirty work and gathered up all the native Americans and forced them to live on reservations. Many of these people are generation after generation of hateful people that feel like each generation they are giving away a bit of that 'Whites-privileges' and would love nothing more than to turn our country back that way. This is the type of voter that we are dealing with and they are hateful hateful hateful people.

As for me - I believe what was said on the Statue of Liberty.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


Having said that perhaps the original poster could just change it to n-word.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
10. After 8 years of Lying
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:18 PM
Aug 2012

Bastard B**h Administration, we are supposed to TRUST these lying bastards. Even since leaving office, the LBBA has engaged in rewriting history because even they know what lying bastards they were. NOW they're concerned about their legacy.


I really hope people are not as shortsighted as I fear.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
11. For THEM it's unwise, because the specifics are either nonexistent or damning.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:20 PM
Aug 2012

Don't they realize we are right behind them watching them ? They really are NOT invisible, like they think, the loons.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
12. If you are trying to get hired for a contract for work.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:35 PM
Aug 2012

You produce the blueprints/plans in detail of what you propose to do.. You also produce factual details/papers of what you have done. You have a resume and you do an interview and answer all the questions asked. If you can not do that then you should not be applying for the work/job.


Show us the INCOME Taxes Romney.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
16. Could see typical GOP low-IQ voters looking for contractors
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:51 PM
Aug 2012

Can you build a house?

Yes

Any examples of houses you've built

Can't show you that

Can you show me your past history of house building

Can't release that information

Can you show me blueprints of what you can build

Can't give you the details

Ok I'll hire you



Edit Note: Then when they get their crappily built house built and it falls down - they blame democrats for the problem

Go figure.

PatSeg

(47,405 posts)
15. And if it WAS a popularity contest
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:50 PM
Aug 2012

he couldn't win that either. He really has no redeeming qualities that I can see.

Meanwhile, I have yet to hear him say anything specific about his policies - "Well, we'll have to work that out with Congress, blah, blah, blah........"

Oh well, "The trees are the right height" and he "loves cars". I'm sure that's enough.

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
19. He's a rich white guy
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 04:03 PM
Aug 2012

So in his mind that makes him more qualified than Obama. So it should make him more qualified in everyone else's mind too.

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
20. We don't need no stinkin information
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 04:23 PM
Aug 2012

This represents the nadir for campaigns built on misinformation.

Real information is not needed (or desired) when you can fill the void with 24 hour networks, radio and Super-PAC funded propaganda.

Unfortunately, this tactic has been far too successful (2010?)

But this is why the Ryan pick is such a gift. He was naive enough to believe that he should actually write his ideas down and make his people vote for them. The RYAN budget is all we need to show voters what they really are.

It is merely a bonus that they are so arrogant that they can't seem to keep the normally supplicant press happy. They seem to be kicking them in the teeth and daring them to do their job.

renate

(13,776 posts)
28. well said, especially the last two sentences
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 07:54 PM
Aug 2012

I really wonder just how long it'll be before journalists from CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC--everybody other than Fox reporters--get fed up with their outright bullshit. It's one thing for politicians to spin, another for them to stand there and lie with straight faces.

Welcome to DU!

BarackTheVote

(938 posts)
22. So...
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 04:46 PM
Aug 2012

He thinks he can just stand there, looking smug while not being Obama, and win. It's very frightening that polls are as close as they are

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
23. "You want the secret details of my secret plans? Well, you can't have them. They're SECRET!"
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 04:50 PM
Aug 2012

"And when you vote, you vote in secret. So, put it together. You get it, huh? Secret plans, secret vote, secret SuperPAC donors--don't forget them--secret you, secret me, and the next thing you know, we all profit! Or at least me and my friends who own things do. How? Shhh. It's a you know what."

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
24. In marketing(book marketing, at least) there is an ideal amount of information that you
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:02 PM
Aug 2012

give about a book to maximize sales. You have to tell enough about it to sell the book, but not so much that some potential buyers will realize this is the book they want. My sense is that with. Although Romney has revealed almost nothing about himself or his policies, my sense is that that the campaign has already passed this ideal point and they know it. Anything more that is revealed is going to cost him votes. That's why they keep Romney away from the press, limit interviews to very friendly interviewers, and will probably limit debates. That only leaves them with the option of attacking Obama, which is what the plan to do.

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
25. It if flat out past the point of being pathetic
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:04 PM
Aug 2012

as noted, he wants to run on his business experience, but talking about Bain is a PERSONAL ATTACK!

He wants to slam "Obamacare" but you can't talk about "Romneycare."

He has spent over a year now talking in a deriding manner about the President, but then turn around and ball about negative campaigning - after he scorch earthed a half dozen challengers to shreds in the primary.

The reality is that 1) They really don't have much to run on against this president outside of a slow recovery 2) They know what they WANT to do is so extreme they can't possibly win by saying what it is.

This has to be the most pathetic presidential campaign in my life, at the very least the worst since Clinton ran for reelection.

But, with their money and the "liberal" media, SOMEHOW they are within range of BO.

Stunning, just stunning.

Wednesdays

(17,346 posts)
27. Deja vu... It's Campaign 2000 all over again
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:46 PM
Aug 2012

If you recall, all questions about Smirky's past were absolutely verboten. And you couldn't get specifics from him about anything... That didn’t matter, what was important was how mean Al Gore was, how Al Gore claimed to have invented the Intertubes, and how Shrub was the guy everybody could have a beer with.

Telly Savalas

(9,841 posts)
30. It is a popularity contest
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:13 PM
Aug 2012

If it's not a popularity contest, then why do candidates spend so much money on substanceless 30 second ad spots?

Until voters decide to punish at the ballot box candidates who lack substance, assholes like Romney and Ryan are going to behave the way they do.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
31. Some of the more gullible Republicans are in a morally broken mood, I think.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:20 PM
Aug 2012

They are willing to play political Russian roulette on the hope that they aren't the ones who will lose. It's a kind of sickness, but I'll bet there are a lot of Romney/Ryan voters who think that way.

That is the kind of mood that Republican elites encourage in their working and middle class rubes. "The other guy is bad 'just because,' and I'm better 'just because', and nothing anyone says, true or false, good or evil, changes that." It's just a mood. It's a figment. But it's easy to get relatively simple minded people who are disappointed with life for some reason to fall prey to it.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
34. I think there is this odd belief that if you vote for the richest guy to be president...
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:41 PM
Aug 2012

that some how their magical touch to getting rich will rub off on them.

This is also why lotteries are so popular.

We see the dream on TV, we want that dream but getting it isn't by voting for them.

Snarkoleptic

(5,997 posts)
32. He doesn't need to know specifics in order to outsource government to the RNC.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:26 PM
Aug 2012

All RNC needs is someone with enough fingers to hold a pen.

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