There is one possible way to fight what is happening in Wisconsin and Michigan before the 2020

[still_one]

election, and that is do a recall on those legislators who are leading that charge.

18 states have voter-recall provisions. The states are Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington, and Wisconsin.

[pecosbob]

1. If they dick around too much with the new pot law in Michigan, that will backfire

and might get folks out for a recall, but I would have doubts as mostly people are asleep. It would take a lot of noise to wake them up. Walker successfully defended himself from a recall vote a few years back with all the levers of government available to him to influence the outcome. Of course he's gone now but his infrastructure remains in place. The repubs get to make the rules as they go along only up to the point when people get fed up.

[roamer65]

2. All we have to do it target 10 swing districts in the MI House for recall.

I’m on board with it.

[pecosbob]

4. Cool...

[still_one]

6. Even if it isn't successful, at least those voters who voted for the Democratic Governor are

pushing back, and it is fighting fire with fire

[susanna]

8. I am on board with it too.

This is bullshit.

Michigan here.

On edit: clarity because I was uncharacteristically brief in my response

[still_one]

5. For Walker, that was then. The midterms sent a message loud and clear things are different now

While the Governor race in Wisconsin was close, Walker lost this time.

What I am suggesting to the people of Wisconsin and Michigan is go after those republican leaders who led the charge to take away the Governor's power. I would hope in both Michigan and Wisconsin they should be able to get enough signatures for a recall election. While the actual recall election might not succeed, at least people those people who voted for the Democratic Governor in those respective states a chance to fight back on this despicible power grab

[FBaggins]

7. They just had an actual election

A recall isn't possible in MI until late July and takes a few months.

[JI7]

9. and by then the primary campaigns will have started

at least the campaigning part.

[still_one]

12. OK, then I gues they need to go through the courts, and try to argue the case that the lame duck

legislature and governor are trying to usurp the will of the people who voted to replace the Governor

[FBaggins]

13. That isn't really a legal claim

It amounts to saying that legislatures lose their power not at the end of the term, but the day after the election.

Now... some of the proposed changes could be challenged on constitutional grounds (if, for instance, implementing language for a voted-on amendment contradicts what the people voted on)... but you can't keep them from exercising power that they still have.

Note that it happens all the time. The people elect a republican governor in an otherwise blue state and the legislature decides (and the then-current governor agrees) that governors really shouldn't have the power to replace senate vacancies on their own. He now has to pick from a list approved by a panel where the majority is picked by the state legislature. New legislation is passed and there isn't a thing that the new governor can do about it.

Here in NC, the red supermajority in both houses did lots of that type of change when Roy Cooper was elected... and tried for some more when it looked like they might lose their supermajority last month.

[safeinOhio]

10. Why I'm against term limits.

In Michigan those doing the dirty work won't be back any way. They don't give a crap and can be bought off cheap.

There is a huge downside to Term Limits.

[diva77]

11. Great idea! Even if the recall attempts are unsuccessful, the value of having the

corruption exposed by media coverage will be a big win on its own and will energize people to resist!