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Flynn is apparently singing like a bird! SWEET! Update - fingered finks still being investigated? (Original Post) Roland99 Dec 2018 OP
I really wanted to chant "Lock him up!" and get a perp walk out of this. Squinch Dec 2018 #1
me, too Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #8
This asshole deserves jail time. nt USALiberal Dec 2018 #2
True...but if *he's* not, the dirt he has must be solid gold! Roland99 Dec 2018 #3
I want both!! :-) USALiberal Dec 2018 #4
Mueller has let murderers get away in order to bring it all down from the top. phleshdef Dec 2018 #16
I know, I just want him to regret saying "Lock Her Up", and jail would do that. nt USALiberal Dec 2018 #17
Yea I get it... but I'm pretty sure he regrets a lot more than that. phleshdef Dec 2018 #20
More from Seth. Does appear he's singing arias related to Trump-Russia...UPDATE-Mueller not ending Roland99 Dec 2018 #5
Kushner likely a key target! Roland99 Dec 2018 #7
and I'm betting Bannon will see an indictment one day Roland99 Dec 2018 #10
but Seth doesn't think Pence is involved (at least as far as Flynn is concerned) Roland99 Dec 2018 #13
Okay, I can go with that... 2naSalit Dec 2018 #18
Jr or erik? 2naSalit Dec 2018 #19
We hear very little about either. believe that typically means they're targets? Roland99 Dec 2018 #21
This may be part of the reason Flynn is getting off light Jarqui Dec 2018 #22
Flynn met with the special counsels office 19 times... agingdem Dec 2018 #6
is Abramson continuing to analyze? Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #9
i'm not updating with all and I've kinda interspersed them upthread Roland99 Dec 2018 #11
thanks! I've been following those :D Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #12
I heard he was singing like an Italian canary on Individual 1 meow2u3 Dec 2018 #14
One final note from me. A key portion to me. Flynn is cooperating on *SEVERAL OTHER INVESTIGATIONS* Roland99 Dec 2018 #15
Flynn a bigger witness than we realized??? Roland99 Dec 2018 #23

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
1. I really wanted to chant "Lock him up!" and get a perp walk out of this.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 09:46 PM
Dec 2018


Just read the second tweet. Maybe a dozen perp walks in the bush are worth one in the hand.
 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
20. Yea I get it... but I'm pretty sure he regrets a lot more than that.
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 11:12 PM
Dec 2018

And he will continue to be a pariah for a long time.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
13. but Seth doesn't think Pence is involved (at least as far as Flynn is concerned)
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 10:15 PM
Dec 2018




and MAGAts will see this all as good news



2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
18. Okay, I can go with that...
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 10:34 PM
Dec 2018

I kind of forgot about Kuschner. That's going to upset the czarina and that's going to upset daddy and that's going to be a problem.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
19. Jr or erik?
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 10:37 PM
Dec 2018

Erik seems to fly under the radar and maybe he's more of an operative than we give him credit for. It has to be one of them.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
22. This may be part of the reason Flynn is getting off light
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 12:24 AM
Dec 2018

(beyond what he was charged with that calls for only 0-6 months in jail)

31/ Here's the key: Mueller wasn't really asking for Flynn to do time, so he had no *reason* to reveal anything really significant here—that is, he didn't have to *convince* the judge of anything by writing about all the bad things Flynn did or told him/his team that others did.


Mueller might have had to reveal more if he wanted to press for more of a jail sentence.
Maybe Mueller figured it wasn't worth it since he's after bigger fish.

That redacted stuff probably has Trump going darn near crazy trying to figure out what they've got on him ...

agingdem

(7,845 posts)
6. Flynn met with the special counsels office 19 times...
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 09:56 PM
Dec 2018

that should scare the hell out of trump and his legal team...the lighter sentence recommendation means he's spewing like a geyser and what he's spewing is valuable and it's spilling over into other ongoing investigations...this is ok...doesn't make for screaming headlines but it's obvious mueller has no intentions of showing his hand and giving the orange maggot and his unholy minions any twitter ammunition...good for mueller

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
9. is Abramson continuing to analyze?
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 10:11 PM
Dec 2018

I can't figure out how to find this with threadreaderapp, so hoping you'll continue to update as warranted.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
15. One final note from me. A key portion to me. Flynn is cooperating on *SEVERAL OTHER INVESTIGATIONS*
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 10:29 PM
Dec 2018

that and Mueller is far from being finished.

Buckle up, DUers!!

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
23. Flynn a bigger witness than we realized???
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 12:48 AM
Dec 2018
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1070164186838327296.html


This is interesting.

Check out the signatories on the Flynn memo.

Robert Mueller

Brandon Van Grack

Zainab Ahmad

Interesting names and potentially a clue to what Flynn was helping with...

1/

Brandon Van Grack is a prosecutor specializing in national security.

He has a background in counter-espionage (read: cases involving spying on U.S. entities).

His highest profile case: prosecuting a hacker who aided ISIS.

article.inside robert muellers army
To probe alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election, the special counsel has essentially built his own miniature Justice Department. Meet the experts he’s recruited.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-robert-muellers-army


2/

Zainab Ahmad is also a prosecutor with expertise in international and extranational cases (i.e. crimes abroad).

She is an absolute badass with a long track record of bringing terrorists to justice.

This profile is a good read.

Taking Down Terrorists in Court
Zainab Ahmad has prosecuted thirteen international terrorist suspects for the American government. She hasn’t lost yet.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/05/15/taking-down-terrorists-in-court


3/
Ahmad has deep experience working with our intelligence operations and with other countries to gather evidence, apprehend suspects and prosecute criminals.

Think: making cases where the bad people are somewhere else.

4/

Let’s pull these together...

What case is Mueller working on that involves:

1) Hostile foreign actors
2) Spying on U.S. entities
3) Hacking
4) Connections to the Trump Campaign

The one that comes to mind for me is..........

5/
The entire conspiracy to hack and weaponize DNC emails.

Russia <-> WikiLeaks <-> The Trump Campaign

Flynn got pinched for lying about calls with Russian contacts.


6/
Nineteen meetings is a lot of get-togethers to talk about a couple phone calls.

When the prosecutors across the table specialize in espionage, intelligence, hacking, covert multinational plots and rogue foreign actors, they’re talking about something bigger:

Conspiracy.

7/
Mueller has already put cases in the courts to prove the Russian hacking piece.

He has a sealed indictment of Assange to prove the weaponizing of that hacked data.

I think Flynn just gave him the last mile:

Proof of the Trump Camp’s end of the bargain.

The quid pro quo.


8/
Russia hacked.

WikiLeaks distributed.

Trump was supposed to pay that bill by lifting Russian sanctions.

I’d guess Flynn delivered that last piece in spades.

Tied the whole thing together with a nice bow.

9/
If that’s the case, all there is left for Mueller to do is take down all the confederates and supporting actors.

Stone, Corsi, Junior, et al.

Originally, I thought Flynn was likely to be of little value. Now I think he may be a star witness.

He saw the deal go down.


10/10
Note: One loose end to bear in mind...

Zainab Ahmad is deepest in terrorism with roots in the Middle East.

Not at all out of the realm of possibility that all of the above is true AND there’s also a case involving Saudi as well.
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