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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPlease remember these two names on Mueller's deal w/Flynn. Sammy "the Bull" Gravano & John Gotti
Nobody could get John "the teflon don" Gotti until Mueller cut a deal with the hit man
Sammy "the bull" Gravano and let him off w/a 5 year sentence for something like 20+
murders if he would flip on Gotti. Gotti died in jail doing a life term.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/12/how-scared-should-trump-be-of-mueller-ask-john-gotti-or-sammy-the-bull
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,673 posts)when the Flynn memo came out. Mueller is treating this investigation just like a mob prosecution - which is basically what it is. Those who are having hissy fits over Flynn getting little or no jail time need to remember what Mueller did to nail Gotti.
Botany
(70,490 posts)It is, one person close the administration recently observed, a classic Gambino-style roll-up. To understand how Mueller might now proceed, to get a sense of the compromises hed be willing to make to bag the larger prosecutorial targets in his sights, its eye-opening to go back to the deal he cut with Sammy the Bull.
When Gravano sent word from his cell in 10 South that he wanted to meet with the F.B.I., and that, more pointedly, he wanted to speak to them alone, the overwhelming suspicion was that it was more bull from the Bull. Robert Mueller didnt believe it. And neither did Bruce Mouw, the head of the F.B.I.s C-16 team that had painstakingly built the case against Gotti and his henchmen. As Mouw told me years ago, when I was writing my book Gangland, both Mueller and he, as well as just about everyone else involved in the case, thought it was a gangsters scam. Ignore him, was the dismissive consensus. Wed be giving his lawyerthen Ben Brafman, the same canny criminal attorney now shaping Harvey Weinsteins defense)ammunition to hurl back at us with incriminating innuendo in the courtroom.
But Mueller had the final say, and he ordered the F.B.I. to arrange the interviewensuring that it was done as covertly as any mob sit-down. Ten South was, after all, little more than a narrow corridor, a self-contained universe of adjacent cells. Gravanos was flanked on one side by mob boss John Gotti, and on the other by the Family consigliere, Frankie Loc. If either of them, men who lived by the kill-or-be-killed rules of their ruthless profession, suspected that the Bull was contemplating becoming a rat, the news would swiftly be passed on to the avenging Gambino family foot soldiers. And Sammy would be a marked man.
The shrewd specifics of the plan that ultimately went forward was conceived by Mouw, who had studied strategy at Annapolis in a previous life. On the morning of October 10, 1991, Gravano was escorted from his cell with deliberate pageantry by a phalanx of guards for a scheduled appointment. The ostensible purpose was to conduct a voice-analysis test; the government wanted to be able to distinguish the Bulls words from the rumble of muttering tough-guy voices on a series of surreptitiously recorded tapes. Gotti and Frankie Loc had each already suffered through similar sessions.
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Did Flynn wear a wire?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/03/michael-flynn-plea-agreement-mueller-russia
peekaloo
(22,977 posts)interchangeable nick name
mucifer
(23,527 posts)As in his previous two trials, Miller was portrayed as a bumbling agent who had a sexual affair and espionage misadventures with an alcoholic Soviet spy, Svetlana Ogorodnikova, who, the prosecution charged, lured Miller into betraying his profession and his country.
http://articles.latimes.com/1990-10-10/news/mn-1957_1_fbi-agent
That's why I love knowing that Schiff is chairing the intelligence committee.
Botany
(70,490 posts)Richard Blumenthal, Ted Lieu, and Senator Kamala Harris all have backgrounds
in law enforcement too.