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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDear gawd. It was all about massive plans for nuclear tech!! Russia/Saudi Arabia/et al. This is HUGE
Link to tweet
For starters. And its even bigger
Plans to build up to 40 nuclear power plants across the Mideast. Saudi Arabia would have been the biggest power in the Mideast by far. Jareds loans were his quid to the potential > $1 Trillion in construction costs for Mideast construction firms and access to nuclear technology
Listening to Proof of Collusion. Its all in there!
more details in post #4
Turbineguy
(37,319 posts)The Big Vig!
allgood33
(1,584 posts)we wouldn't let them I guess because they would have been a formidable competition for our buddies the Saudis. Now it is becoming clear.
Second, remember when they tried to hang a scandal on HRC for the nuke deal our government agreed to with Russia?
Zoonart
(11,849 posts)how this is NOT all espionage?
certainot
(9,090 posts)it would be easier to sell the state-funded centralized solutions like nuclear that the dinosaur companies could use to move on from fossil fuels without a bunch of small scale decentralized (democratized) innovation in alternatives cutting into their power and profits and ability to amortize their investments in dinosaurs.
MIC intel around the world has probably been geared for reviving nuclear for decades and would want to use an idiot like trump
yonder
(9,663 posts)I'll be paying more attention.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)The proposal would require lifting sanctions on Russia, according to Reuters, to allow currently sanctioned Russian companies to partner with American entities to build reactors in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emiratesthe latter nation, too, because, under the terms of a deal signed many years ago by the United States, if the American government relaxes nuclear-weapon safeguards on Saudi Arabia, a gold standard clause from a past U.S.-UAE nuclear deal would ultimately entitle the UAE to enrich uranium as well. As explained by ProPublica, Saudi Arabia needs approval from the U.S. in order to receive sensitive American technology. Past negotiations broke down because the Saudi government wouldnt commit to certain safeguards against eventually using the technology for weapons. Now the Trump administration has reopened those talks and might not insist on the same precautions.
Abramson, Seth. Proof of Collusion: How Trump Betrayed America . Simon & Schuster. Kindle Edition.
60. Isaac Arnsdorf, White House May Share Nuclear Power Technology with Saudi Arabia, ProPublica, November 29, 2017, https://www.propublica.org/article/white-house-may-share-nuclear-power-technology-with-saudi-arabia. 61. Reuters, Saudi Arabia Says It Has Options if U.S. Walks Away from Nuclear Power Deal, Haaretz, March 25, 2018, https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/saudi-arabia-says-it-has-options-if-u-s-walks-from-nuclear-power-deal-1.5938599; Warren Strobel, Exclusive: Mideast nuclear plan backers bragged of support of top Trump aide Flynn, Reuters, December 1, 2017, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-flynn-nuclear-exclusive/exclusive-mideast-nuclear-plan-backers-bragged-of-support-of-top-trump-aide-flynn-idUSKBN1DV5Z6.
Abramson, Seth. Proof of Collusion: How Trump Betrayed America . Simon & Schuster. Kindle Edition.
This has all been available thru various news sources and the Steele Dossier
Seth has done an AMAZING job compiling it all into an easy to follow medium
I canNOT recommend this book or audiobook enough
i mean...dear f'n gawd!!
Abramson, Seth. Proof of Collusion: How Trump Betrayed America . Simon & Schuster. Kindle Edition.
100. Steve Mufson, Pompeo: Saudis must not enrich uranium if it seeks civilian nuclear cooperation, Washington Post, May 24, 2018, https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/pompeo-saudis-must-not-enrich-uranium-if-it-seeks-civilian-nuclear-cooperation/2018/05/24/714c5e30-5f92-11e8-a4a4-c070ef53f315_story.html?utm_term=.13d5782b6cf8.
Abramson, Seth. Proof of Collusion: How Trump Betrayed America . Simon & Schuster. Kindle Edition.
The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)aggiesal
(8,911 posts)it was illegal to accept campaign donations from foreign entities,
and that we have the emoluments clause, so that the grifting trumpeters, can't enrich themselves.
Welcome to the world of Citizens United.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,321 posts)The ultra rich class that GOPers have been feeding since Reagan own communications, SCOTUS, WH, Senate and many state houses. Trump and McConnell are disposable tools.
It's going to take a few more blue waves to make sure democracy survives global oligarchs.
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,321 posts)
Section 3.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii
And ...
18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381
watoos
(7,142 posts)are buddies now working against Iran. If I were Israel I would think twice about SA getting nuclear facilities.
SA has a brutal leader right now, and he is young. He has murdered a journalist in a brutal, disgusting manner to show the world how brutal he is. If this nuclear deal goes through, it is insane.
Ford_Prefect
(7,886 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)And all that material is carefully controlled, so it can't be smuggled out of the country.
That was the lunacy of the Uranium One deal that the rightwingers have been whining about for years. We DIDN'T sell all that uranium to Russia. The company was sold to a Canadian company owned in part by a Russian company. But all they can do is mine uranium in the US and sell it to American companies. It can't leave the country.
neohippie
(1,142 posts)This wasn't a deal for US companies to sell to the Saudis, Flynn was working to allow the Russians to make the deal
certainot
(9,090 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)Hillary sent 20% of our uranium to Russia!!!!
Everything they accuse someone else of. I bet Mueller could just follow the fake accusations.
erronis
(15,241 posts)My understanding is that nuclear (nuculear) power plants use uranium. Plutonium can be produced by plants under the right conditions. At least that's my rudimentary remembrances of physics lessons long past.
watoos
(7,142 posts)look for the prices of oil and gasoline to skyrocket. I believe that Russia and SA have been keeping the price of crude down as a favor to Trump, another part of the Quid.
Russia and SA are glorified gas stations, they aren't going to keep biting the bullet keeping crude at $50 a barrel.
Of course starting a war with Iran would do the trick too.
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)When we end our nuclear deal with Russia? I know it mostly deals with arms.
https://www.armscontrol.org/print/2556
colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)This is what the meeting in the Seychelles was all about. The one that included Erik Prince.
watoos
(7,142 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)was more projection from him
elmac
(4,642 posts)for some payola?
They_Live
(3,231 posts)and all smiles between SA and Russia at the G20.
pecosbob
(7,537 posts)Kidnapping Gulen for Erdogan, dropping sanctions for Putin, Putin gets to sell Arctic reserves to Exxon and the Saudis get a nice thank you war with Iran for Christmas. Netanyahu is undoubtedly in there somewhere as well. The only thing that's stopped the Exxon boys from riding into Tehran on tanks is Putin.
Grasswire2
(13,568 posts)Seth Abramson.
Proof of Collusion.
NYT best seller.
Tweeting his evidence for many months now.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Grasswire2
(13,568 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Why not give nukes to the country that sent us the 9/11 hijackers, finances every sunni terrorist organization on the planet and cuts apart journalists with a buzz saw. What could possibly go wrong?