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CNN: FBI joins NC election fraud investigation. They've identified a "person of interest". (Original Post) mobeau69 Dec 2018 OP
Wonder how much of this went on in 2016? triron Dec 2018 #1
Excellent question. mobeau69 Dec 2018 #2
Apparently it's been going on for years. Squinch Dec 2018 #34
If there's a new election, I like the Democratic candidates chances. bearsfootball516 Dec 2018 #3
The pukes will probably try to cheat again. mobeau69 Dec 2018 #4
I actually don't think they would in this case. bearsfootball516 Dec 2018 #6
As a former Tarheel Dem I can tell that they do NOT care. Ford_Prefect Dec 2018 #27
I fear the opposite could happen. drray23 Dec 2018 #26
Fortunately, most criminals are stupid. MoonRiver Dec 2018 #5
Trump silent on allegations after spreading conspiracy theories struggle4progress Dec 2018 #7
A link if possible, please? pecosbob Dec 2018 #8
Me too. It's a crawler on CNN. mobeau69 Dec 2018 #12
thnx... pecosbob Dec 2018 #13
... Sources also told Channel 9 on Friday that the FBI is now involved struggle4progress Dec 2018 #14
Thank you! mobeau69 Dec 2018 #16
Trump ally who served on voter integrity panel expresses concern struggle4progress Dec 2018 #9
That's just so messed up on so many levels that I can't really respond... pecosbob Dec 2018 #11
Agree. It's like his sewage pipe is connected to his intake. erronis Dec 2018 #23
+1,000,000 This. Eloquently stated! diva77 Dec 2018 #31
Gets it all wrong on voter fraud struggle4progress Dec 2018 #10
Thanks for that. I love me some Gail Collins. mobeau69 Dec 2018 #17
One would think that mailing fraudulent absentee ballots constitutes mail fraud pecosbob Dec 2018 #15
Plus they trashed a lot of "Dem" ones. mobeau69 Dec 2018 #18
Yeah...I just meant that one part of their activities should give the FBI jurisdiction pecosbob Dec 2018 #19
Let's hope. mobeau69 Dec 2018 #20
The head of Meck Dem party is a longtime DUer. blm Dec 2018 #29
reassuring pecosbob Dec 2018 #30
Probably not necessary, it's already a felony to tamper with ballots. LakeSuperiorView Dec 2018 #22
Probably gilligan Dec 2018 #21
Someone told a friend that he saw her lurking near a pizza joint. There we go. erronis Dec 2018 #24
The "person of interest" is Leslie McCrae Dawless Jr..a political operative who worked for red dog 1 Dec 2018 #25
Do they have an 'R' attached to their name? edbermac Dec 2018 #28
Got to wonder if this has been done across North Carolina rurallib Dec 2018 #32
Rachel did this story.. stillcool Dec 2018 #33
Same guy cheated in 2016 and then tried to pretend Democrats had cheated Awsi Dooger Dec 2018 #35

bearsfootball516

(6,374 posts)
3. If there's a new election, I like the Democratic candidates chances.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 04:40 PM
Dec 2018

Whenever there's a special election due to something big like this, the party/candidate under scrutiny always sees heavily depressed turnout.

bearsfootball516

(6,374 posts)
6. I actually don't think they would in this case.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 04:43 PM
Dec 2018

They know the magnifying glass will be on them and they can't afford to do anything shady.

Ford_Prefect

(7,875 posts)
27. As a former Tarheel Dem I can tell that they do NOT care.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 07:01 PM
Dec 2018

They believe they are doing God's work and are protected thereby. They believe they are justified in doing anything and everything to win.

Over the last 25 years, the North Carolina GOP was restructured by Art Pope to remove anyone with a sense of morality or the common good. They were replaced by right-wing religious zealots who would not question the orders of the central committee and who had a sincere longing to return to the Jim Crow era. This is not hype. They are just that kind of racist nut.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
26. I fear the opposite could happen.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:55 PM
Dec 2018

It's already hard to get dems to the polls during a normal election day. I fear that the GOP will rile up their base claiming the dems want to steal the election and get a record turnout. We Democrats will sit on our asses and not show up in numbers.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
5. Fortunately, most criminals are stupid.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 04:41 PM
Dec 2018

And that obviously includes the one currently squatting in the people's house.

struggle4progress

(118,268 posts)
7. Trump silent on allegations after spreading conspiracy theories
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 04:47 PM
Dec 2018

BY NICOLE GOODKIND ON 12/6/18 AT 1:50 PM

President Donald Trump has long made accusations of voter fraud ...

Yet the president has remained silent about a North Carolina congressional race in which actual evidence of illegal ballot-harvesting by the Republican candidate has led the executive director of the North Carolina Republican Party, Dallas Woodhouse, to support an election do-over ...

President Trump visited North Carolina before the election to campaign on behalf of Mark Harris ...

https://www.newsweek.com/north-carolina-voter-fraud-harris-trump-election-fraud-bladen-county-1247617

struggle4progress

(118,268 posts)
14. ... Sources also told Channel 9 on Friday that the FBI is now involved
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 04:55 PM
Dec 2018

in the election fraud investigation, and that the SBI is on the ground in Bladen and Robeson counties investigating as well ...

https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/report-harris-campaign-owes-34-310-for-disputed-absentee-ballot-turnout-work/884960673

struggle4progress

(118,268 posts)
9. Trump ally who served on voter integrity panel expresses concern
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 04:49 PM
Dec 2018

By Sean Sullivan December 6 at 6:55 PM

Kris Kobach, an ally of President Trump who served on a voter integrity panel, expressed worry Thursday that Republican fraud might have tainted a North Carolina congressional election, becoming one of the most prominent members of the GOP to publicly express alarm about the race ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trump-ally-who-served-on-voter-integrity-panel-expresses-concern-about-fraud-in-north-carolina/2018/12/06/98d13d3c-f974-11e8-863c-9e2f864d47e7_story.html?utm_term=.8b2a181f525b

struggle4progress

(118,268 posts)
10. Gets it all wrong on voter fraud
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 04:53 PM
Dec 2018

GAIL COLLINS

... Republicans have been warning us about the danger of voter fraud for ages ...

The fictional version of voter fraud involves sinister characters — possibly illegal immigrants! — showing up at the polls repeatedly, perhaps disguising their nefarious intent by wearing different hats or an occasional false mustache.

“In many places, like California, the same person votes many times ... Millions and millions of people,” said Donald Trump ...

... And what do you know? There really did seem to be a case of possible election-stealing in a congressional race in North Carolina ...

https://www.wral.com/trump-gets-it-all-wrong/18043132/

mobeau69

(11,138 posts)
18. Plus they trashed a lot of "Dem" ones.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 05:03 PM
Dec 2018

There's no question at this point that another election will be held.

pecosbob

(7,534 posts)
19. Yeah...I just meant that one part of their activities should give the FBI jurisdiction
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 05:10 PM
Dec 2018

The offense(s) occurred in multiple counties and I've already read about local attempts to move some part of the investigation from Wake County to Bladen County. I have no doubt that there will be local interference.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
25. The "person of interest" is Leslie McCrae Dawless Jr..a political operative who worked for
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:53 PM
Dec 2018

Republican candidate Mark Harris.

From Hawaii TV station KITV Channel 4 (ABC)

rurallib

(62,401 posts)
32. Got to wonder if this has been done across North Carolina
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 07:29 PM
Dec 2018

for several years.

Republicans must cheat to win.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
33. Rachel did this story..
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:33 PM
Dec 2018

last night(?), I think,...and the same guy did the same thing in 2016, was caught.....and the incident was supposedly reported. I guess it's a cottage industry.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
35. Same guy cheated in 2016 and then tried to pretend Democrats had cheated
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 10:23 PM
Dec 2018

His audacity is incredible, along with the fact he was still allowed to be involved in campaigns this cycle

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