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sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:01 PM Dec 2018

Pearls before swine.

*This is the anniversary of Pearl Habor*

Takes on new meaning today. The pearls were the men and women that fought in WWII. The swine is the man in office that will not even bother to recognize their sacrifice they made for this nation.

My dad served. He was in the Pacific at the time on a minesweeper with orders to deploy to the Sea of Japan. That was canceled after Pearl Harbor.

His disrespect... no words.

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Pearls before swine. (Original Post) sheshe2 Dec 2018 OP
I too am disgusted Dave in VA Dec 2018 #1
those at the service might prefer Orange Anus stay away Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #2
This vomitus Cretin has never, EVER, thought of our country... Guilded Lilly Dec 2018 #3
Trump cares nothing about armed services personnel. lpbk2713 Dec 2018 #4
How weird, sheshe peggysue2 Dec 2018 #5
That must have been a very hard night for your dad. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #6
Yeah, I think he felt a measure of survivor's guilt & . . . peggysue2 Dec 2018 #10
A twist of fate. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #11
Awww. Thank you, sheshe. peggysue2 Dec 2018 #12
;) sheshe2 Dec 2018 #13
The man who delivered me MuseRider Dec 2018 #7
How any military veteran Ohiogal Dec 2018 #8
My dad was at Pearl Harbor when it was hit--he was a 19-year-old airman at the time. nt tblue37 Dec 2018 #9

Dave in VA

(2,037 posts)
1. I too am disgusted
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:06 PM
Dec 2018

My father served in the US Navy in WWII in the Atlantic. My Father-In-Law served in the Army and was also an Honor Guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery. How anyone who claims to "support the troops" can give aid and comfort to the orange hemorrhoid is beyond my understanding.



Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
2. those at the service might prefer Orange Anus stay away
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:12 PM
Dec 2018

He's so worried about his own ass being cooked, he likely missed any mention of Pearl Harbor.

That's a good thing. The day is not about traitors and their treason.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
3. This vomitus Cretin has never, EVER, thought of our country...
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:18 PM
Dec 2018

and the history we remember and sacrifices we honor. Not one day. He has no interest in anything that a patriot, let alone an elected official of the American people has for our nation.

Beneath contempt.
And so are his supporters.
And his political party.
He fouls the air around him.
He stains our country.

May we all remember, deeply honor and thank the sacrifices of true Americans, genuine patriots.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
5. How weird, sheshe
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:43 PM
Dec 2018

My dad was on a minesweeper. Off the coast of Okinawa. Then they were hit by a kamikaze pilot, straight down the stove pipe. The ship was badly damaged but managed to stay afloat. It was the only story my father ever told about the war (1 time), primarily because I'd asked about a photo/newspaper clipping he kept under his desk's glass topper. The night of the attack, my dad switched watch with a buddy. The friend was killed; my father survived. My father cried when he told that story.

Yes, the disrespect for all the sacrifices, all the lives lost is mind-boggling. And disgusting.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
6. That must have been a very hard night for your dad.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 08:52 PM
Dec 2018

A twist of fate to have changed places that night.

I don't know much other than pictures of his time in the Pacific. It was late in his life that I saw all the albums and by then he was to far gone to remember.



PeggySue.



peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
10. Yeah, I think he felt a measure of survivor's guilt & . . .
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 09:55 PM
Dec 2018

the sheer weight of that single request--switching watches. Of course, had it gone the other way, I wouldn't be sitting here.

Strange.

Makes you realize how complex, even unlikely our existence as individuals really is: decisions all the way down the line from my father's watch request to my mother's decision to leave the Navy and San Francisco (both of which she loved), come back to NJ and ultimately start a family after the war. They were already married. You multiply that with all the decisions and near misses from far earlier years and family generations--the thought of everything having to work a certain way--it makes the whole question of individual existence (the you and the me) pretty staggering. Not to mention the biology and timing.

Which makes gratitude--a simple 'thank you' to the Universe, our parents and all our ancestors--the least we can do. Honoring the dead, the lost is part of that in my mind.

It's a simple thing. But important.

The fact that the Trumpster can't find a moment to even mention the day, the event is disgusting. But then, we saw how he behaved in France during the WWI memorial. The man is devoid of honor or heart.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
11. A twist of fate.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 10:22 PM
Dec 2018

I am very glad you are here, peggysue.

Trump couldn't even go the few miles to Arlington on Veterans Day. It wasn't raining and his hair wouldn't have gotten mussed up. He was to busy watching Faux and tweeting to be bothered honoring veterans. He is a soulless bastard.

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
7. The man who delivered me
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 09:05 PM
Dec 2018

and took care of me as a little girl went down when they hit his boat. He lived and became a doctor. He was a family friend who, when my father died, stood and would not leave until he saw my father's casket resting in the ground and the ground being put over him. I do not think of him often anymore, he died shortly after my father did 45 years ago, but on this day I do. Trump has no class nor care for anyone's service or loss of life or limb. He cares only for himself and slightly for those around him who reflect what he sees as his greatness.

He needs to go for so many reasons but this is simply a disgrace, a national disgrace.

Ohiogal

(31,979 posts)
8. How any military veteran
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 09:15 PM
Dec 2018

or family of a veteran, would support this national disgrace, is mind boggling.

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