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Grasswire2

(13,568 posts)
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 02:41 AM Dec 2018

So has Danny Deutsch been lying about Cohen wanting to be on the right side of history and seeing...

....himself as a new John Dean?

I watched Deutsch push that framing for an hour last week. Deutsch is reportedly a friend of Cohen and had spent time with him on the very day he made that claim.

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JI7

(89,247 posts)
1. Cohen is too stupid to be John Dean . Cohen is more like a Kato Kaelin type character
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 02:49 AM
Dec 2018

but then so are so many others.

Grasswire2

(13,568 posts)
2. yeah
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 02:54 AM
Dec 2018

What I'm wondering is what it says about Deutsch as a commenter on MSNBC. He's spinning for Cohen. Baldly.

Sugarcoated

(7,722 posts)
3. I think his friendship with Cohen is clouding his judgment.
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:03 AM
Dec 2018

I find Deutsch's assessments of crooked Don to ring very true.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
4. Rev AL Sharpton speaks with Cohen and today he told Nicole Wallace
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:19 AM
Dec 2018

that Cohen expected to get a couple of years in jail.

OnDoutside

(19,954 posts)
5. I think we may find that Cohen has given Mueller all that is related to
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 05:31 AM
Dec 2018

Trump, the Trump family, the Trump organisation, and as it relates to the 2016 election. What he may not have given is anything related to mob activities, and that's what he's taking the hit on. So in the terms Donnie is talking, he is probably correct.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
8. Yeah, agree with this
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 06:40 AM
Dec 2018

The SDNY and Mueller investigations are two seperate things.

Cohen apparently helped Mueller's investigators quite a bit as in their sentencing memo they asked for no additional prison time and if there is, that that time be served concurrently with the sentence related to the SDNY charges.

The SDNY involves mostly Cohen's tax crimes and only touches Trump on the illegal campaign finance charge. Cohen's lawyer worked at SDNY. Presumably they knew what they were doing by not agreeing to a plea deal with that US atty office.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
6. Donny Deutsch is just a wannabe-mover-shaker name-dropper
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 06:28 AM
Dec 2018

He inserts himself into the drama to feel involved..

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
7. More likely he is just wrong in his speculation
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 06:34 AM
Dec 2018

It is possible that that may also be Cohen's view of himself.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
9. Danny Deutsch is the reality show aspect of this. Just ignore it.
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 07:18 AM
Dec 2018

Pay attention to the legal scholars, lawyers, etc.

ScratchCat

(1,987 posts)
11. I think if you read between the lines
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 09:53 AM
Dec 2018

The stuff that Cohen wouldn't cooperate on was the taxi cab coin bit, which is mafia related. Its not the Russia stuff with Mueller. SDNY charged him in the taxi coin bit and you can be damn sure there were more links involved - unrelated to Trump - that they wanted to follow. I assume crossing his mob buddies wasn't on his "to do" list for 2018.

People are reading something into this that isn't there.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
12. No, I think Cohen is a con artist with a higher emotional intelligence than
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 10:29 AM
Dec 2018

trump. Donny D, at worst, is just one of Cohen's suckers.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. The prosecutors pointed out, Cohen lied to lots of people, family, friends, prosecutors.
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 11:27 AM
Dec 2018

Only the latter has the skillset to nail his ass.

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