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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 08:52 AM Dec 2018

Nuns Allegedly Stole Money From Catholic School in Redondo Beach

An internal investigation at a Catholic school in Redondo Beach revealed that two nuns allegedly stole money belonging to school funds for several years.

Sister Mary Margaret Kreuper served for 29 years as the principal of St. James Catholic School, while Sister Lana Chang worked at the school for about 20 years as an eighth grade teacher and assistant principal. Both retired at the end of the 2017-18 school year.

The investigation arose during a financial review for Kreuper's retirement. According to a letter sent to the parents by Monsignor Michael Meyers, the school's pastor, an internal investigation revealed that both nuns had used school funds for their personal use.

In the letter, Meyers also said that the congregation to which the nuns belong, the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet, was cooperating with the Archdioces

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Nuns-Accused-of-Stealing-Money-From-Catholic-School---501745211.html

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Nuns Allegedly Stole Money From Catholic School in Redondo Beach (Original Post) mfcorey1 Dec 2018 OP
i wonder how much they stole and what they used the money for JI7 Dec 2018 #1
One report is $500,000 and they used it for vacations and gambling at casinos. mfcorey1 Dec 2018 #3
I wonder if they had a double life JI7 Dec 2018 #4
NUN shall ever know! mfcorey1 Dec 2018 #8
Nuns gambling at casinos? LisaL Dec 2018 #10
I'm sorry, but I found this hilarious! cwydro Dec 2018 #12
These Nuns are gangsta.. HipChick Dec 2018 #13
Nun of this shocks me underpants Dec 2018 #2
We had a standard joke at high school malaise Dec 2018 #7
What might the proper punishment be.... safeinOhio Dec 2018 #5
habit-ual criminals? dembotoz Dec 2018 #6
Nuns gone bad. nt Laffy Kat Dec 2018 #9
"Archdiocese does not want to initiate a criminal process against the nuns but will address the situ Demovictory9 Dec 2018 #11
Which is reasonable, to be honest. Igel Dec 2018 #15
What's the difference between the people that pray in a churh and the people that pray in a casino? yortsed snacilbuper Dec 2018 #14
At least they weren't kiddy-diddling liberaltrucker Dec 2018 #16
From God's house to the big house ucrdem Dec 2018 #17
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
12. I'm sorry, but I found this hilarious!
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 01:11 PM
Dec 2018

Just read it to my Catholic best friend, and she cracked up too.

Demovictory9

(32,421 posts)
11. "Archdiocese does not want to initiate a criminal process against the nuns but will address the situ
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 01:11 PM
Dec 2018

Archdiocese does not want to initiate a criminal process against the nuns but will address the situation internally,

Igel

(35,274 posts)
15. Which is reasonable, to be honest.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 04:02 PM
Dec 2018

The archdiocese had crappy financial monitoring. The church I worked at did, too, but even then it would have been hard for any but the monitors to engage in more than truly petty corruption. (Even then, the auditor objected to have a petty cash fund for doing things like buying post-its for the office. We needed $4.83 in supplies, we either set up an account that gets reported monthly or we get a check.)

Those in charge, of course, could get away with more. But for that there were the munchkins in the office like me, who would leave breadcrumbs for the auditors if I had any qualms. Sometimes the auditor would talk to the head honchos, sometimes the auditor would say, "It's a reasonable expense."

It was the same where I taught. Now the financial requirements on what teachers can spend for their classes and seek reimbursement for, or how and for what club sponsors can spend club money, are insane. It's as bad as all the legal crap for all possible butt-covering for taking student groups off campus. ("I'm sorry, but at this on-campus meeting you crossed the street to get sodas for a club function. Once you left campus, you were not allowed to return unless you'd gotten permission ahead of time, parental permission forms were signed, and a teacher and an administrator both accompanied you. The club is suspended, you're in ISS. No good deed goes unpunished, and don't even think of getting reimbursed for your $5. No, you didn't know. Welcome to being an adult and remember, the rules are for your own good. And, yes, while working for the church after being told that merely collecting receipts for petty cash wasn't enough, I submitted receipts for reimbursement of less than a dollar on numerous occasions. I'd have held off cashing them, but as the bookkeeper that would have be self-spiteful.)

The archdiocese is then left with criminal prosecution. Now, the nuns are unlikely to have hefty assets, so there's little recovery to be had. And their God said to be merciful and forego judgement. Most internal verdicts of "guilty" are really verdicts of "credible" or "plausible." In this case, the audit's pretty good, but canon doesn't need to go beyond "credible." Now, the way we've redefined the word in the last year is such that it sort-of means "must be believed," but outside the recent temporal and political bubble it means "something that can be believed". (Google nicely says "able to be believed; convincing", but "able to be" does not mean "must be", and even a "credible threat" can be no threat at all and therefore doesn't need to be believed. It's like saying something is "doable"--it doesn't mean you've done it already, or even will do it, or that it must be done. We obscure fine distinctions of truth, or even large ones, when in the pursuit of power and ego, and alsoinsist on them when in pursuit of power and ego. Sic semper erat, sic semper erit.)

Secular court is a bad thing, after all, and it's condemned for brother to go to court against brother. What's left is handling things internally, as a community normally would, by its own standards. Since it affects nobody outside the community, so be it. It's none of my business, esp. since I'm also not a Catholic (and never will be).

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
14. What's the difference between the people that pray in a churh and the people that pray in a casino?
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 02:38 PM
Dec 2018

The people that pray in a casino really mean it!

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