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RandiFan1290

(6,229 posts)
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:40 AM Dec 2018

50,000 year old tiara made of woolly mammoth ivory found in world famous Denisova Cave

https://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/news/50000-year-old-tiara-made-of-woolly-mammoth-ivory-found-in-world-famous-denisova-cave/


The remarkable find was made this summer in the famous Siberian cave where over many millennia early Home sapiens lived alongside extinct Neanderthals and another long-gone branch of ancient man known as Denisovans.

The suspicion is that the tiara - or diadem - was made by Denisovans who are already known to have had the technology 50,000 or so years ago to make elegant needles out of ivory and a sophisticated and beautiful stone bracelet.

The tiara maybe the oldest of its type in the world.

It appears to have had a practical use: to keep hair out of the eyes; it’s size indicates it was for male, not female, use.

Another theory, although related to tiaras made 20,000 years later by people living around river Yana in Yakutia is that they could have denoted the family or tribe of ancient man, acting like a passport or identity card.
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DFW

(54,335 posts)
2. We keep finding these indications that "primitive" man was more sophisticated than ever imagined
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:59 AM
Dec 2018

And then note that certain branches of them died out. The obvious question is how this could have happened? How did they die out if they were so far more sophisticated than we ever imagined?

And then I remember today's Republicans, and their attitude toward climate change and war, and think, oh. Right. THAT'S how.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
3. Most likely, they died out for the same reasons
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 01:51 PM
Dec 2018

that more modern populations have died out or dispersed. Warfare, genocide, famine, exposure to novel diseases, depletion of resources, interbreeding and absorption into another group, etc. Remember, we're not talking about large populations here.

DFW

(54,335 posts)
4. That's true enough
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 08:48 PM
Dec 2018

Back then it was more like a population of a few thousand or tens of thousands at most.

Polybius

(15,373 posts)
5. If they were so advanced, why did it take them 50,000+ years to invent something as simple as a car?
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 10:57 PM
Dec 2018

Or electricity. Or even a steam-engine train. Just sayin'.

denbot

(9,899 posts)
7. Take a group of 50 modern individuals with a reasonably solid basic education.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:52 PM
Dec 2018

Put them in a place rich in natural resources, food, water, minerals, but no tools other then what they could fashion from a natural environment.

I would bet my last beer it would take these people and their progeny at least hundreds of years to produce a working car, even though that first generation had the basic knowledge not only how a car functioned, but also basic math, chemistry, physics, metallurgy.

Our modern society is the product of billions of lives, over the span of thousands of years, working trillions of hours to accumulate not only the practical knowledge to conceive of something like a car, but also the infrastructure which is advanced enough to actually execute a design.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
9. We stand on their shoulders
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 12:03 AM
Dec 2018

Ancient humans were every bit as smart as you and I. But until we had a way to pass learned knowledge down through writing it was often lost.

Do you think somehow we became more intelligent 500 years ago?

The irony is that most humans believe in a religion that was developed by people who were not too far developed from the times when a person who made this tiera.

DFW

(54,335 posts)
10. Maybe they did, and were just waiting 50,000 years for the patent office to open?
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 03:29 AM
Dec 2018

You never know.......

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