Remember, vis a vis Richard Painter's urge for LENIENCY for Trump (resignation)

[Grasswire2]

.....Painter was a member of the Bush Administration.

While he condemns Donald Trump, he may not want a remedy that will fracture Republican Party otherwise.

He may not want the other rot exposed. McConnell, etc.

And so when Painter suggests leniency for Trump -- just let Trump go away -- he is not acting in the interest of the American People.

He is preserving the "establishment" Republican Party by splitting it from Trump.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

Resist that with everything you've got. Push back on social media.

[Garrett78]

1. Let's also remember that the pre-Trump Republican Party made Trump possible.

Even if the anti-Trump Republicans are in deep denial about that.

[PubliusEnigma]

2. A Resignation is definitely better than a Night of Long Knives

I want to see Justice served to Trump as much as anyone.

But this guy is so low he might just try to take the ship down with him.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. I think he was trying to come up with a way to get Tiny out of the White House

as quickly and efficiently as possible without raising legal issues that would go to the Supreme Court. Any attempt at prosecuting Trump while he is still in office would inevitably wind up there, probably take years to resolve, and might not end the way we would like. I don't like the idea of granting Trump leniency - tarring and feathering appeals to me more - but I saw Painter thinking like a lawyer rather than as a politician.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

4. When you think about it, trump's body count is still nothing compared to bush 2.

All trump did was collude with Russians and break campaign finance laws (besides no doubt decades of fraud, money laundering and tax evasion).

Bush started an illegal war of aggression, kidnapped and tortured some folks, is responsible for a million deaths, fucked the Middle East for a generation and racked up trillions in war debt. (Also, phoney “terror level” alerts during the 2004 election, 3 million government business emails “lost”, illegal propaganda payments re: NCLB, outed a CIA agent and covered it up)

And we “looked forward not backward” for Bush. We would be way ahead of the game if we let Trump resign tomorrow.


What does it matter anyway...

[Grasswire2]

13. Do you think that if Trump simply resigned with no finding of criminality via the law..

....that he would simply succumb to cheeseburgers and silence?

No. His vital essence requires him to PUNCH BACK HARDER and seek vengeance.

He is an enemy of the state, and an enemy of the people, and so are those who surround him.

He would be out there stoking his bitter psyche in ways that are worse than we have already seen. He would be seen by the base as a martyr.

You want that?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

17. No. I don't want that. I want to see him frogmarched.

But I also don’t think he is leaving willingly nor are the repigs going to allow impeachment.

So where does that leave us? With a maniac at in control of our nuclear arsenal.

We haven’t said a peep about the previous war criminal responsible for a million deaths. Now said war criminal is being rehabilitated by our own side.

So forgive me for being cynical.

[Grasswire2]

19. okay, we must measure cynicism (appropriate and understandable) against reasonable expectation

And what you advocate actually has some basis in law enforcement when those experts tell us to make a path away for a dangerous man-- away from the public space -- and then let them take him down where no others may be hurt.

Following that advice, I initially wanted him to be allowed to resign and go. But following immediately after he agreed and left, I wanted all Trump assets seized, restitution for debts, businesses broken up, family members charged fully for their crimes, passports pulled, federal parole supervision forever, and so on. That scenario would give us the measure of the man.

But.....

I see now that the most important consideration is breaking up not only the Trump criminal enterprise, but also stomping out the evil RW empire that has weaponized every aspect of American politics simply because they can no longer win on the merit of their ideas and policies -- weaponized and leveraged every aspect in a war against the now; a war to take us back in ways that will destroy our earth and revisit the most ugly aspects of human greed and malevolence.

And so we must very publicly punish and shame and repudiate Donald J. Trump, everyone who has helped him, and the institutions that have enabled and supported him.

For the children. For the future. For once!

[Wounded Bear]

5. One of the reasons we're where we're at...

is that way back in the 70's, we let Nixon resign and walk away without any justice done.

[EleanorR]

7. Ford pardoned him

[Wounded Bear]

8. Yes, he did...

and it was perhaps the biggest mistake made in the 2d half of the 20th century. We're still dealing with Nixonistas.

[EleanorR]

9. very true

Nixon should have gone to jail, and so should trump.

[OnDoutside]

11. I fully expect that to happen again. Within the Institutions of State, there is never an appetite

for international embarassment, by sending a head of state to jail. It shouldn't happen, but there we are.

[Grasswire2]

14. and George H.W.

and Reagan.

and George W.

No more going along to get along.

A marker needs to be laid for history that crimes against the state were committed, adjudicated, and punished.

We're not playing pattycake here.

[Volaris]

22. Agreed. The alternative is that they KNOW they can get away with this shit,

And the next one will therefore, be WORSE.
Meanwhile, Democratic Elected Officals can be run out on a rail on nothing more than hearsay, and we'll just go ahead and take it.
No More.
Donald Trump needs to die in prison, AS AN EXAMPLE, and if they complain, our answer needs to be

'Democrats do not support the death penalty.'

[duforsure]

6. If trump and the gop

Aren't held to a higher standard from their positions in our government , next time it will be a lot worse , and we may not recover from it all.

[brooklynite]

10. Why should I resist?

What impact does a Richard Painter tweet have?

[Grasswire2]

16. It is very interesting to watch here...

....to see who is not willing to hold Trump et al accountable to the full extent of the law in order to break the cycle of Republican perfidy.

[Leith]

12. Aww, Jeeze...

Isn't it past time that rethugs learn what "consequences for their actions" means?! People die and serious laws are broken because of them. Throw the whole lot in prison.

[Grasswire2]

15. yes

Over, and over, and over again, they attack the rule of law, the Constitution and its separation of powers, the free press, the elements of democracy.

And this time is the very worst....an existential moment.

[greyl]

18. Leniency could mean a 50 year prison sentence instead of death by hanging.

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_laws_in_the_United_States

[Grasswire2]

20. I like the way you think!

Leniency: No guillotine. No firing squad.

[Duppers]

21. Exactly! 👍

[Ilsa]

23. I'm with you. nt

[lindysalsagal]

24. Was painter's plea public? I missed that.