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cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 12:42 PM Dec 2018

Provocative question:

good or bad news the markets are dropping under dump admin?


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Provocative question: (Original Post) cilla4progress Dec 2018 OP
Bad news for the 1% and Wall Street investors. lunatica Dec 2018 #1
Many have 401K's, so there's that SHRED Dec 2018 #2
Well the market ain't helping them much is it? lunatica Dec 2018 #9
The markets trebled under President Obama. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #19
Corrections are good for people with 401ks Recursion Dec 2018 #20
Provocative. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2018 #3
Thanks... cilla4progress Dec 2018 #7
De nada. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2018 #23
I mean, cilla4progress Dec 2018 #4
The market goes up and the market goes down. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #5
Exactly. If you're young, investing is the smartest thing you can do. bearsfootball516 Dec 2018 #8
Even if you're not young. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #12
Neither. dawg Dec 2018 #6
elegant explanation n/t violetpastille Dec 2018 #14
I know, but cilla4progress Dec 2018 #10
Bad news, unless....... WillowTree Dec 2018 #11
Haha - thanks. cilla4progress Dec 2018 #17
Things that hurt me financially are always bad news to me..... scheming daemons Dec 2018 #13
Robb is a dingbat. KentuckyWoman Dec 2018 #15
You are aware that good or bad news . . . ? Ms. Toad Dec 2018 #16
It's good news because stocks have been trading irrationally high Recursion Dec 2018 #18
doesn't matter to me either way. It's a concern for the well off. Kaleva Dec 2018 #21
Its good that it shows duforsure Dec 2018 #22
We were going to see a slight correction or at a minimum it was going to stagnate. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #24
M$M will focus on "your 401K." moondust Dec 2018 #25
I've moved everything to stable value AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #26
Good that it helps get tRump out of office. Bad for doc03 Dec 2018 #27

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
9. Well the market ain't helping them much is it?
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 12:52 PM
Dec 2018

The way it works is if Wall Street is making a killing it’s bad news for the someone down the food chain.

It’s simple. The stock market gains when wars break out or disasters happen because the smart ones will invest in arms or disaster emergency products.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. The markets trebled under President Obama.
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 01:32 PM
Dec 2018

If the markets crash like they did after 9/11 and the piercing of the housing bubble it will be bad for everyone, especially Chump.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
20. Corrections are good for people with 401ks
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 01:32 PM
Dec 2018

If you're young enough for your plan to still be buying stocks, you like corrections because they mean you're buying stock cheaper. If you're approaching retirement, your plan will have moved you out of stocks and into fixed incomes anyways.

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
4. I mean,
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 12:50 PM
Dec 2018

I hate for pensioners etc. to take a hit - including myself and family.

OTOH, it is widely surmised a big drop or hit to the economy is what it will take to change the money grubbing greed based vulture capitalist Rs!

It does away with any "justification" for them to support him. Other than judicial appointments...

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
5. The market goes up and the market goes down.
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 12:50 PM
Dec 2018

New highs get set quite regularly, but never new lows. Think about it.

For those with some cash, the market going down offers a buying opportunity.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
8. Exactly. If you're young, investing is the smartest thing you can do.
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 12:51 PM
Dec 2018

The market always goes up and down in the short term, but always goes up long term.

Diversify, don't worry about the short term noise, and you'll always come out ahead in the long run.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
12. Even if you're not young.
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 12:55 PM
Dec 2018

I'm 70 and I'm not about to sell everything and sit on cash.

There are people who sold everything when Trump was elected and they've lost out on quite a lot of market gain. I can see not wanting to be 100% in equities -- no one should be -- but parking all your money in a savings account that pays less than the going rate of inflation is not a good thing either.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
6. Neither.
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 12:51 PM
Dec 2018

Falling stock prices are good for people who are net buyers of stock. (Like young people who are working and adding to their 401(k)'s)

Falling stock prices are bad for people who are net sellers of stock. (Like retirees who are taking distributions from their 401(k)'s)

If you don't own stocks, and have no plans to do so, then stock prices are pretty much irrelevant.

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
10. I know, but
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 12:53 PM
Dec 2018

this is like the QB getting all the credit / blame. Symbolic and superficial, but I contend that's what drives the right - symbols. It's all their petty heads can handle.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
11. Bad news, unless.......
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 12:54 PM
Dec 2018

.......you're in favor of cutting off your own nose (& everyone else's) to spite Trump's face.

I didn't answer the poll because you didn't define what "yes" and "no" mean. You might want to change the labels to "good" and "bad". Just a suggestion.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
13. Things that hurt me financially are always bad news to me.....
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 01:11 PM
Dec 2018

....the silver lining is that it hurts Trump.


But this past election showed we can beat Trump even if the markets are doing good. He is that bad.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
18. It's good news because stocks have been trading irrationally high
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 01:30 PM
Dec 2018

You'd want a correction no matter who was in office.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
22. Its good that it shows
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 01:44 PM
Dec 2018

trump and the gop policies are a fraud , again , just like it did under W Bush, and people will be forced to realize he and the gop lied again to them. Its bad that people will suffer , but this will wake many of them up when we're in a recession again from their voting for trump and the gop again. .

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
24. We were going to see a slight correction or at a minimum it was going to stagnate.
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 04:39 PM
Dec 2018

Instability among other things has cause a bit more of a rapid drop. Not bad considering its rise over the last nine years. Glad it is happening under Trump for reasons of optics.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
25. M$M will focus on "your 401K."
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 05:04 PM
Dec 2018


Of course that matters but it's much more about the Richest 10% of Americans Who Now Own 84% of All Stocks. By switching from defined pensions to 401Ks corporations have gotten a lot of poor people to support the stock market.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
26. I've moved everything to stable value
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 05:14 PM
Dec 2018

I don’t see stock market being sustainable under trump, it is now more likey that the recession will start before 2020 which should help dems.

doc03

(35,325 posts)
27. Good that it helps get tRump out of office. Bad for
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 05:23 PM
Dec 2018

my investments short term. Probably good in the long run since the market always does better under Democrats.

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