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AndJusticeForSome

(537 posts)
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 06:05 PM Dec 2018

Regarding statute of limitations and the apparent immunity of the presidential office

The question of whether a criminal may take advantage of the unwillingness of the DOJ to indict a sitting president, by running out the clock on the statute of limitations (SOL) for the crime(s), is critical for us at this point.

Apparently, having not been tested, it may well be headed to the SCOTUS.

According to constitutional lawyer and former Acting Solicitor General (who authored the Special Counsel regulations) if the logic for not allowing indictment is to either pevent a) distractions associated with a trial, or b) the risk of abuse by political adversaries, then the only solution is to either 1) allow for indictment but delay trial until the president is unseated or 2) stop the clock on the SOL until the president is unseated.

Otherwise, someone (the president) is, de facto, above the law, and can abuse the Office by using it as a shield from criminal behavior.

I infer that Katyal believes that the SCOTUS would agree to protect the Rule of Law.

Listen to the excellent 12/8 Renato Mariotti podcast "On Topic", with guest Neal Katyal. They discuss this and other related issues.

It definitely relieved some of my anxiety worrying about Trump escaping justice.

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Regarding statute of limitations and the apparent immunity of the presidential office (Original Post) AndJusticeForSome Dec 2018 OP
I've been thinking this same thing. File it timely and worst case, the Supremes will stay the case MaryMagdaline Dec 2018 #1
Do you have a link for this? eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #2
Yes AndJusticeForSome Dec 2018 #5
right, there's really zero argument that the president can't be *indicted* unblock Dec 2018 #3
That podcast is excellent. I think #1 will be the outcome. Claritie Pixie Dec 2018 #4

MaryMagdaline

(6,851 posts)
1. I've been thinking this same thing. File it timely and worst case, the Supremes will stay the case
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 06:14 PM
Dec 2018

until president is out of office.

AndJusticeForSome

(537 posts)
5. Yes
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:01 PM
Dec 2018
https://castbox.fm/vb/103169286

I didn't include it because I am not very fluent in podcast, and this one is within an app I have installed on my phone, so not sure how that will translate.

unblock

(52,116 posts)
3. right, there's really zero argument that the president can't be *indicted*
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 06:18 PM
Dec 2018

merely being indicted doesn't in and of itself interfere with a president'a constitutional duties.

but a *trial* might (though the supreme court allowed a civil case against a sitting president to proceed).

then the president can ask the court to delay until he's out of office. my understanding is that since the delay is at the request of the defendant, he couldn't use that excuse to get out of any applicable statute of limitations.

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