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global1

(25,219 posts)
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:54 AM Dec 2018

Let's Talk Government Shutdown....

Will Trump really shut it down if he doesn't get wall money? Will Trump cave? Will he be stubborn enough to go through with a shutdown?

How will the Repugs handle such a shutdown? (McConnell?) as the Repugs will get the blame for Trump's ego.

Will the Dems call his bluff and let him shut it down?

Will the Dems (Nancy & Chuck) cave and give him the money?

Should the Dems give him the money for the wall? All of it ($5 billion)? Some of it (a lesser amount)? None of it?

How long would or could such a shut-down last? Happening around Christmas/New Years - do they really want to do this? Does Trump really want to do this?

Is this just an exercise for testing how the new relationship (Dems having the House dealing with the WH) will work going forward over the next 2 years?

Do Nancy & Chuck just want to teach Trump a lesson in bipartisan compromise? (i.e., show him if both sides give a little - all can win)

Really - I look at this as a watershed moment for the next 2 years of business in D.C.. Will it be business as usual - no progress - more of the same partisan fighting? Or this confrontation yesterday be a 'teachable moment' in how the next 2 years should or will work?




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Let's Talk Government Shutdown.... (Original Post) global1 Dec 2018 OP
Start labeling it NOW HopeAgain Dec 2018 #1
Schumer and Pelosi have already labeled it the Trump shut down YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #2
I'd be smocked if he shutdown AndJusticeForSome Dec 2018 #3
On What Basis Would He Paint Himself A Hero..... global1 Dec 2018 #4
He doesn't need any real basis AndJusticeForSome Dec 2018 #5
Government shutdowns don't save any money. They actually cost the government more money. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2018 #6

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
1. Start labeling it NOW
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:56 AM
Dec 2018

"Trump shut down", "Trump Down", whatever it takes, we need to mimic what they do and repeat, repeat and repeat a simple message.

Let him shut down the Government and own that shutdown. If he gets sucessfully hung with it, it will not last long.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
2. Schumer and Pelosi have already labeled it the Trump shut down
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:15 PM
Dec 2018

And the NumbNuts in Chief doubled down saying he would be proud to shut down the government “for border security”.

Trump’s on the record demanding funding for his wall or he will shut down the government.

I’m pretty sure the dems call his bluff. It’s his shutdown if it happens.

AndJusticeForSome

(537 posts)
3. I'd be smocked if he shutdown
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:20 PM
Dec 2018

Or, if he did, let it last more than a day or two.

No, he will capitulate and paint himself the hero for avoiding a shutdown.

global1

(25,219 posts)
4. On What Basis Would He Paint Himself A Hero.....
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:28 PM
Dec 2018

If he doesn't get the money how does he justify winning this? I can't see him taking a loss of face by calling for a shutdown and not getting anything out of it.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
6. Government shutdowns don't save any money. They actually cost the government more money.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 12:35 PM
Dec 2018

Employees eventually get paid; shutdowns rarely last longer than a week. Essential employees get paid on time, so there's no stoppage for them. Non-essential employees get paid once the stoppage is over, usually the following pay period. Bills eventually get paid; with interest if paid late. So what's the point other than a pissing contest as Nancy described so aptly.

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