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Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:06 PM Dec 2018

Three fucking years!? A black kid gets more for jay walking

Let's face it. A black kid selling an ounce of crack would end up in jail for perhaps 10 or more years.

Cohen helped Trump steal the 2016 election. STEAL AN ELECTION TO BECOME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, and he gets three fucking years?

I haven't seen much outrage about this. Maybe I'm the only one who thinks that the American system of justice is rigged, unbalanced and totally fucked up.

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Three fucking years!? A black kid gets more for jay walking (Original Post) Cyrano Dec 2018 OP
Didn't Mueller recommend the judge be lenient? bearsfootball516 Dec 2018 #1
This wasn't Mueller. It was the SDNY Cyrano Dec 2018 #3
Mueller's report called for leniency...SDNY's report did not. pecosbob Dec 2018 #6
"White collar" crime is very disproportionately lightly sentenced RockRaven Dec 2018 #2
I guess, at worst Trump will wear an ankle bracelet at Trump Tower Cyrano Dec 2018 #4
Isn't an ounce of crack a pretty large amount. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #5
Perhaps a better comparison would be the woman that got a five year sentence in Texas pecosbob Dec 2018 #7
+1 Mosby Dec 2018 #9
Oh, okay. Cyrano Dec 2018 #11
he wasn't charged with "helping steal an election" Mosby Dec 2018 #12
If u are trying to get the trumpys to agree to cooperate dembotoz Dec 2018 #8
I'm outraged mickswalkabout41 Dec 2018 #10
Sentencing is never going to be fair. maxsolomon Dec 2018 #13

pecosbob

(7,533 posts)
6. Mueller's report called for leniency...SDNY's report did not.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:31 PM
Dec 2018

SDNY wanted more info and Cohen wouldn't play ball.

RockRaven

(14,901 posts)
2. "White collar" crime is very disproportionately lightly sentenced
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:18 PM
Dec 2018

That said, if Cohen doesn't cooperate properly going forward, there are probably dozens of similar cases which could be brought, when you consider he worked for Trump for over a decade. Imagine the number of discrete incidences of tax and bank fraud one engages in when working for Trump for a decade. If federal prosecutors get pissed off at him, they could probably rack up charge after charge and end up with a sentence that equates to his natural life.

Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
4. I guess, at worst Trump will wear an ankle bracelet at Trump Tower
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:24 PM
Dec 2018

Who knows? If convicted of treason, he may be forced to wear it for an entire week.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
5. Isn't an ounce of crack a pretty large amount.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:28 PM
Dec 2018

That is an amount that is before street distribution in the chain. One step away from the guy selling pounds. I'm not sure what it would look like if the guy selling the ounce rolled on the guy selling larger amounts. At that point you are getting pretty close to the top of the food chain.

pecosbob

(7,533 posts)
7. Perhaps a better comparison would be the woman that got a five year sentence in Texas
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:33 PM
Dec 2018

for illegally voting as an ex-felon, while Cohen only gets three years for helping to subvert an entire election.

Mosby

(16,259 posts)
9. +1
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:38 PM
Dec 2018

An ounce of rock or coke is "possession for sale" and is a major felony. It's worth more than a thousand dollars. I get the OP point though, he/she just didn't know that an ounce is a lot of coke.


Mosby

(16,259 posts)
12. he wasn't charged with "helping steal an election"
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 03:27 PM
Dec 2018

He was charged with tax fraud, making false statements, and making illegal contributions.

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
8. If u are trying to get the trumpys to agree to cooperate
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:38 PM
Dec 2018

There needs to be value in the deal. Otherwise why cooperate???
If no value, tell Mueller to stuff it and lobby for a pardon cause you were loyal to the end

mickswalkabout41

(145 posts)
10. I'm outraged
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 02:51 PM
Dec 2018

Im retired media, a former cop......pissed to say the least. This is white rich privilege at the highest level. Let’s see, fixing an election, conspiracy to overthrow the government, bank fraud, election fraud, conspiracy, lying to congress, lying to the FBI. White guy gets off. Democrat or person of color. I’ll use their words. Lock her up. And I don’t think they meant for 3 years.

maxsolomon

(33,246 posts)
13. Sentencing is never going to be fair.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 03:53 PM
Dec 2018

BTW, Trump is never going to see a minute in jail. He'll die tweeting on a solid gold toilet.

That's the way America has always worked, so get ready for that injustice.

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