Now Cohen has a couple months to decide if he really, really wants

[pnwmom]

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to go to prison for Donald Trump, or if maybe he should unload some REAL dirt.

Which we know he has.

And just to shut the prison door even tighter, along comes NY AG Letitia James to announce that she's going to be investigating everything, so that state charges can be pressed if Trump starts pardoning people.

Michael Cohen, it's time to start talking about Prague. Among other things. Mueller might write you a much nicer letter.

ON UPDATE: I think Cohen asked for early sentencing so he could see how bad his sentence would be without additional "cooperation," and to give Trump one more chance to pardon him. Trump is mad and probably won't pardon -- plus now Letitia James comes along, tossing threats from NY.

I bet Cohen doesn't go gently into Riker's Island.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ex-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-faces-possible-jail-sentence/2018/12/12/75162826-fdd4-11e8-a17e-162b712e8fc2_story.html?utm_term=.b4cf814ce4cf

In a possible sign of further trouble for the president, Cohen said he will continue cooperating with prosecutors, and one of his legal advisers said Cohen is also prepared to tell “all he knows” to Congress if asked.

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Beyond the guilty pleas, it is unclear what Cohen has told prosecutors or what he has left to say, though one of Mueller’s prosecutors, Jeannie Rhee, said in court that Cohen has “provided consistent and credible information about core Russia-related issues under investigation.” Legal experts said Cohen could get his sentence reduced by cooperating.

[BigmanPigman]

1. NY is saving the day on so many levels...

the judges, AGs, various lawsuits, etc. NY is really going after Cohen, and now tRump and his spawn....and no pardons are allowed!

I❤NY

[Stuart G]

2. So, you see: It ain't over till it is really over...and it ain't over...

Act 3, ...4 act play..

[scheming daemons]

3. Cohen better watch he doesn't end up drinking polonium tea

And he should avoid high rise balconies.


Putin will want to silence him.

[USALiberal]

9. Prison rape is really not funny. nt

[Blue_true]

14. Nothing was said about prison rape, at least not what I saw.

Putin has a habit of poisoning people with radiation and having them thrown from high buildings.

[USALiberal]

15. The hidden post said "Mikey is gonna become somebody's bitch", someone alerted it. nt

[Blue_true]

16. Sorry, did not notice a hide. Thanks. nt

[USALiberal]

17. NP! nt

[Maeve]

25. I think he's also afraid of cement overshoes

Or harm to his family from more local sources---my theory is the reason he didn't co-operate more fully with SDNY is that he knows too many NYC mobsters and what they have done and he can't rat on them safely; they play for keeps.

[ProudLib72]

4. Rump to Cohen

I'll tell ya what I want, what I really, really want...

If you want to be my lawyer, you've got to take a loyalty oath...

Decrepit Spice has nothing to offer Cohen, so he just spill the beans.

[guillaumeb]

6. Recommended.

None of these people have friends. They are conspirators and criminals. One hopes that Cohen will realize how much trouble he is in and be even more cooperative.

We can all hope that more states will initiate investigations and bring charges against Trump and his criminal partners.

[melman]

7. He's already been sentenced

You can't just renegotiate for a better one.

[pnwmom]

11. WRONG. He can still come forward with new information

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and the prosecutors can consider recommending a further reduction in his sentence.

Barbara McQuade just said on MSNBC that he can request a further reduction, based on cooperation, for a period up to a year from today.

[dalton99a]

13. Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 35(b)

Rule 35. Correcting or Reducing a Sentence

...

(b) Reducing a Sentence for Substantial Assistance.

(1) In General. Upon the government's motion made within one year of sentencing, the court may reduce a sentence if the defendant, after sentencing, provided substantial assistance in investigating or prosecuting another person.

(2) Later Motion. Upon the government's motion made more than one year after sentencing, the court may reduce a sentence if the defendant's substantial assistance involved:

(A) information not known to the defendant until one year or more after sentencing;

(B) information provided by the defendant to the government within one year of sentencing, but which did not become useful to the government until more than one year after sentencing; or

(C) information the usefulness of which could not reasonably have been anticipated by the defendant until more than one year after sentencing and which was promptly provided to the government after its usefulness was reasonably apparent to the defendant.

(3) Evaluating Substantial Assistance. In evaluating whether the defendant has provided substantial assistance, the court may consider the defendant's presentence assistance.

(4) Below Statutory Minimum. When acting under Rule 35(b), the court may reduce the sentence to a level below the minimum sentence established by statute.

....

[madinmaryland]

8. He'll be going to the Country Club Prison facility in Danbury, CT. nt

[Mr.Bill]

19. And I'll bet even there,

there are some people who are not too fond of crooked lawyers.

[vsrazdem]

10. I think he already dished everything on Trump, no reason to hold back.

I think the rest of the noncooperation may have to do with his taxi business and may implicate other family and friends, which he may not be willing to do.

[pnwmom]

12. He's still cooperating, which indicates he has more to say. n/t

[Garrett78]

18. Cohen is cooperating with the Special Counsel more so than with SDNY.

Cohen probably fears for his life and isn't going to confess to every crime not related to Trump. Mueller doesn't care about those other crimes, but SDNY does.

[Historic NY]

20. He's going to Otisville Federal Correctional

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[link:https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/heres-the-castle-behind-bars-michael-cohen-wants-to-live-in-for-the-next-3-years/|]

He'll be able to work his way up to a high paying for prison job assembling solar panels. The Warden always offered an open invitation to lunch and a tour of the facility, when he speaks a community functions.

[Hamlette]

21. I think he's protecting a family member or two

He had business dealings with his father in law, maybe NY wants him to turn on F I L. That would be hard to do.

[majdrfrtim]

22. I suspect that you're correct about this!

IANAL, but if he were to seek a reduction, it’d probably necessitate placating the SDNY team (who claimed so little cooperation on his part with them). He’d probably have to agree to rat out every instance of wrong-doing he’s aware of — which probably would guarantee family members would wind up behind bars, too. I think he’s ‘sacrificing’ his freedom for theirs. *That’s* how he’s “sparing” them, if I remember his statement correctly.

[SunSeeker]

23. Exactly. Not to mention his own lifetime of crime.

Remember, Cohen and Felix Sater come from the same neighborhood and have been friends for over 30 years. Sater is Russian mafia, and developed Trump Soho. Cohen's Ukrainian father-in-law got him into that shady taxi business. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/a-brief-history-of-michael-cohens-criminal-ties-628875/

Cohen has spent his whole life around shady characters and has never had a legitimate job in his life. If everything he and his friends did came out, he'd end up in jail for a lot more than 3 years.

[ode2joi1]

24. I think he's protecting.....

I agree. If he is, I hope his wife/children understand he added prison time to save another adult.

[mucifer]

26. Yes, I think he's not holding back about trump. It's his family he is protecting.

[tparrett62]

27. He's not afraid of Trump

I imagine there are much bigger, scarier people whose dirty dealings he knows about. There's a terrific book- I think it was made into a movie- called "McMafia" that details how organized crime has become global, and how scary some of these players are. Trump is not a threat to Cohen at this point, and I'm guessing Cohen is trying to figure out exactly how much he can give SDNY on Trump without turning over too many other rocks that would prefer to remain in the dark.

[Bayard]

28. OR....

He'll have 3 years to write a best-seller.