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PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
5. White House Counsel Lionel Tribbey
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:33 AM
Dec 2018

Played by the great John Larroquette! I always wished he had been in a few more episodes. I love the scene where he bursts into the Oval Office carrying a cricket bat and rants to President Bartlet without realizing there are a couple of dozen spectators in the room!

On the other hand, Oliver Platt was great as Oliver Babish.

I loved that series so much that my fiancee calls it my fairytale.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
18. My daughter is on about her 6th run-through of the complete series
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:41 PM
Dec 2018

she only really discovered it about 2 years ago but has been burning through the episodes so much on Netflix that I have seen most of them again a few times too.

And now we watch Mom just to see Allison Janney.

I mean, it wasn't _that_ long ago that her favorite show was Dragonball Z.

I like where she is headed.

Zoonart

(11,833 posts)
2. AS a fiction writer I have to say...
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:11 AM
Dec 2018

I find Mike Flynn's story more compelling..especially if he wore a wire. It tracks with that of Benedict Arnold , who... angry at Washington, flips to the enemy and commits treason. Flynn, angry at being fired by Obama and, by extension Hillary, flips to the dark side. More interesting back story, personal anguish, and fall from grace.

Cohen has been mobbed-up his entire adult life.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
9. The Flynn story is the the best for sure
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:48 AM
Dec 2018

Especially since he broke the law for 45 and then had to suffer the public humiliation of getting fired by him for the bogus reason that he lied to Pence. It was as if Pence's moral standing was being held above Flynn's. Flynn's ultimate revenge is against Pence's self-righteous smirk.

MineralMan

(146,256 posts)
6. I have to wonder who would go to a movie about Michael Cohen.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:35 AM
Dec 2018

I certainly wouldn't. We're seeing it all unfold before our eyes in real life. Why pay to watch a movie?

Siwsan

(26,250 posts)
11. Well, we watched Sarah Palin, right before our eyes, and Game Change was a huge hit
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:18 AM
Dec 2018

I could see an HBO or Showtime movie/documentary happening.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
8. He really doesn't
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:44 AM
Dec 2018

Word in NY is that he's banked around $80 million. That fine was peanuts and should have been MUCH higher.

rurallib

(62,382 posts)
10. seems that he will have a little time to do some things he's wanted to do
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:03 AM
Dec 2018

on his own coming up very soon. So, yeah, why not write a book?

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
12. Don't most states have laws about profiting from your crimes?
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:16 PM
Dec 2018

So that murderers and other criminals can't write tell-all books and make a fortune?

Siwsan

(26,250 posts)
14. I could most definitely be wrong but I think the 'Son of Sam' law was struck down
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:22 PM
Dec 2018

And, regardless, it probably wouldn't stop someone in his family from 'presenting' the screenplay or treatment.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
16. OK - the original "Son of Sam" law was stricken but a revision has survived
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:29 PM
Dec 2018

In 1987, lawyers for publishing company Simon & Schuster sued the New York authorities to prevent enforcement of the Son of Sam law with respect to a book they were about to publish called Wiseguy, written by Nicholas Pileggi. The book was about ex-mobster Henry Hill and was used as the basis for the film Goodfellas. The case reached the federal Supreme Court in 1991. In an 8–0 ruling on Simon & Schuster v. Crime Victims Board, the court ruled the law unconstitutional.[1] The majority opinion was that the law was overinclusive, and would have prevented the publication of such works as The Autobiography of Malcolm X, Thoreau's Civil Disobedience, and even The Confessions of Saint Augustine.[2]

Similarly, the state of California's Son of Sam law was struck down in 2002 after being used against Barry Keenan, one of the men who kidnapped Frank Sinatra, Jr. in 1963.

After numerous revisions, New York adopted a new "Son of Sam" law in 2001.[3] This law requires that victims of crimes be notified whenever a person convicted of a crime receives $10,000 (US) or more—from virtually any source.[4] The law then attaches a springing statute of limitations, giving victims an extended period of time to sue the perpetrator of the crime in civil court for their crimes.[5] This law also authorizes a state agency, the Crime Victims' Board, to act on the victims' behalf in some limited circumstances.[6] Thus far, the current New York law has survived court scrutiny.

In certain cases, a Son of Sam law can be extended beyond the criminals themselves to include friends, neighbors, and family members of the lawbreaker who seek to profit by telling publishers and filmmakers of their relation to the criminal. In other cases, a person may not financially benefit from the sale of a story or any other mementos pertaining to the crime.[citation needed]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_Sam_law#History_and_legal_status

Siwsan

(26,250 posts)
17. Thanks!
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:35 PM
Dec 2018

It will be interesting to see how, and by who, the 'inner details' of this whole mishegoss are revealed.

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