NOT ME. but who here would be satisfied if the only way this ends is

[bluestarone]

Resignation or impeachment??? I personally want his WHOLE family to pay with financial ruin AND PRISON TIME!! Also all the Rethugs that supported this family needs to be investigated and financially ruined!! We need to REMEMBER they are completely destroying our planet, our country and FAMILIES!!!

[TxVietVet]

1. This is a family of traitors.

Sell off their property and help pay down the national debt.

[bluestarone]

3. Works for me

With PRISON time that is!!

[ProfessorGAC]

17. You Sure They Actually Have Any Money?

Or that they actually have equity in those properties? My guess is that the leverage is so high, that after selling them off, the banks will still come up short on the loan.

[TexasBushwhacker]

20. OPM

Other Peoples Money

They survive on smoke, mirrors and debt. An enourmous amount of their net worth is based on their brand, which has become worthless to the point that residents sue to have the Trump name removed from their buildings.

This is about more than Trump and his grifter network and family. He is a symptom of the deep rot in the Republican party, the evangelical Christian community and the oligarchs who fund them. Removal from office is not enough. I want him and his family in prison as well as others who accepted millions from Russia like Mitch McConnell. PRISON PRISON PRISON

[ProfessorGAC]

21. My Point Precisely

The wheels of justice can't take what they don't have.

And i am all in on your second paragraph, as well!

[drmeow]

25. I want Mitch McConnell in prison

more than any of the others - and I want the others in prison an awful lot!

[Shell_Seas]

2. Me. Although, financial ruin and prison time would be satisfying;

Getting his grubby little hands off of the wheel is most important, IMO.

[Takket]

4. I seriously doubt...

That after two years of work that Mueller is just going to let drumpf ride off into the sunset in exchange for a resignation like Nixon did.

They are going down.

[bluestarone]

6. I like your thinking!!

[Turbineguy]

5. Not satisfied.

But I'd have to accept it.

[bluestarone]

8. I guess we ALL would have to accept it

I wouldn't be happy though like you!

[vlyons]

7. I would be satisfied

I am not a vengeful person. But I do believe in the truth of karma. Many of his, and family's crimes will be exposed. There will be ambitious prosecutors, who would love to get him in court and convict. It may be necessary to make an object lesson of him and his family and cronies about corrupting our government. So I guess if conviction would serve the greater good, then I'm for it.

[bluestarone]

9. True words here

[Javaman]

10. I want him to resign. (I know he won't, his narcissism prevents that)

the dogs of lawsuits will be let loose!

his life would be a never ending misery.

and I'm fine with that.

[Codeine]

11. I just want him out of power.

Not all who deserve punishment receive it, and not all who are punished deserve it. Those are just universal truths and banging your head against that wall is a fruitless endeavor.

[Bradshaw3]

12. I'm surprised at how many here thnk he's going to jail

He should, and so should his whole family. But I would say the odds are that he works out a deal with no jail time.

How many times in the past have we seen wealthy and/or powerful white criminals get off with no or little jail time? Nixon's resignation was pretty much a deal in which the repubs in power told him to do it before he was impeached, and then later Ford pardoned him for his crimes. Agnew was as dirty as they come but he got off. You think dump won't threaten to take down the whole country with him in order to get out of this mess? And that the powers in Washington won't go along with a deal to end this? I think the chances of that happening are greater than him going to jail.

[drmeow]

26. I think you are right

but that doesn't stop me from wishing.

[Bradshaw3]

39. Or me either

I wish this country didn't protect wealthy wrongdoers, especially one who is trying to destroy democracy from the top down. Maybe what dump has done is so bad that when the Mueller report comes out he will get what's coming to him. I certainly hope so.

[genxlib]

13. It will be less satisfying

But in the big picture it is more important to get him out of power sooner than later. He is devastating to our Country on so many levels that I would accept a quick exit.

I do have two caveats

One is a full written and videotaped confession and mea culpa to try and neutralize his base and keep him from becoming a martyr.

Second, I want full accountability for the remainder of people who aided and abetted. Too many times in the past we have passed over these assholes and they just come back like a bad penny. Without fail, the same ratfuckers keep popping up a generation later to screw with us again.

[pnwest]

16. That would never happen

“One is a full written and videotaped confession and mea culpa to try and neutralize his base and keep him from becoming a martyr.”

He is constitutionally incapable of admitting fault, and even if he did as you describe, his base would never believe it. They’d say he was forced to say these things, and he was being railroaded. Even a full trial, conviction and jail time would convince only a small percentage of his base.

[genxlib]

18. I agree on both accounts

But those would be my terms.

You will note that I said "try to neutralize his base". I think the reality is that there is a hard core 25% that will never believe it. However, it would solidify the other 75% to go back to treating those people as the pariahs they should be instead of treating them like they have a legitimate argument.

[marylandblue]

14. I want him out of power, jail is just icing on the cake.

[EleanorR]

28. I agree

I want him and his family and his ridiculously incompetent staff gone, unable to do more damage.

[Hoyt]

15. At this point, getting them out of office is paramount. That will ruin them. trump will never do

prison time.

In any event, the sooner he is out, the better.

[Demsrule86]

19. It just needs to end.

[lpbk2713]

22. It looks like a physical or emotional collapse will come sooner.

With each passing day it becomes more apparent he is losing touch with reality.


Sad.

[Dirty Socialist]

23. Not sure yet

[maxsolomon]

24. I'll be satisfied if/when he announces he's not running in 2020.

Impeachment and the Senate Trial are going to be a shitshow that won't be healthy for the body politic (in the end, it's probably smart to coddle the feewings of Trump voters, since they're your Dad, your Grampa, your Aunt, your Sister, etc.).

Better he makes a deal with Congressional leadership when the Mueller report is done (I don't think that will be until next Summer), and scurries out of town on 1/20/2021.

On edit: I'll take a resignation before then, of course.

[Boomerproud]

31. I would never coddle a Trumpet. They are not brainwashed. He was/is their choice to run this country

into the ground and their hatred of all things progressive and decent proves they are not worthy of any mercy or sympathy.

[maxsolomon]

37. So, you'd get in a fight with your elderly father over it, then.

Even though he is brainwashed and won't change his mind and it would sour your relationship with him for the rest of his life.

There's what feels good and there's what's smart. The Dem leadership will choose what's smart. Us libtards can swallow our schadenfreude; we had plenty of practice when Obama let Bush & Cheney off the hook.

[Sanity Claws]

27. I agree

but I hope that investigations continue to get the other rich kleptocrats who have hurt the country over the years.

[bluestarone]

32. YES exactly my thoughts as well

ALL the rethugs in the senate and house (NUNES comes to mind) that were in my mind accomplices to RUMPS crimes!!

[SallyHemmings]

29. Separate them & put them in cages

[Jarqui]

30. Trump and Pence resign

Hillary and Tim Kaine replace them

I could haggle a deal like that but only a pardon/immunity on federal crimes and Trump has to pay for the cost of the Mueller investigation and all federal taxes and penalties - all restitution & fines.

Of course, they would never do it ...

[ode2joi1]

33. NOT ME

I agree with your sentiments.

[LiberalFighter]

34. Damn right. They don't deserve to be let off easy.

Any property they obtained by scrupulous means need to be confiscated. Any financial gain that was illegal such as from hotel property during his time at the WH should be confiscated. All taxes that he illegally failed to pay should be recouped with interest and fines.

And they all need to go to prison.

[bluestarone]

35. yep

[handmade34]

36. financial ruin

is the only punishment that would satisfy me... jail time not necessary... that would only cost taxpayers

[pecosbob]

38. Makes me want to post a video clip of DeNiro's rant as Capone in the Untouchables...

[PufPuf23]

40. Impeachment and conviction in the Senate

followed by Federal and State prosecutions works for me.

Would benefit the USA to impeach and convict this POTUS.