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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:38 AM Dec 2018

Trump made one of the biggest mistakes you can ever make.

He pissed off the law. Trump has attacked, mocked our entire justice system. People who dedicate their lives to the law take those attacks personally. The southern district of New York and others will never stop investigating Trump until they ruin him, his family and his entire organization.

Trumps biggest problem is not impeachment. It's tax fraud, bank fraud, etc.

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Trump made one of the biggest mistakes you can ever make. (Original Post) shockey80 Dec 2018 OP
Most Of The Media Ain't Too Pleased, Either ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #1
I owned and edited a small county newspaper for 10 years UpInArms Dec 2018 #6
Thanks For The Amplification ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #8
We sold the paper in December 2016 UpInArms Dec 2018 #10
Eeep! ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #11
Me, too UpInArms Dec 2018 #14
And I am quite sure True Blue American Dec 2018 #19
Thanks, True Blue UpInArms Dec 2018 #26
But they have to recognize it as truth to be forced to make that decision. Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #35
Taking back the media is a hard thing UpInArms Dec 2018 #40
an old friend of mine who is a bigwig in Washington investigative reporting says.. Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #42
I don't know how that would come about UpInArms Dec 2018 #46
I applaud and wish you the best. I loved reading the small town newspapers that I got when I ... SWBTATTReg Dec 2018 #50
Thank you UpInArms Dec 2018 #54
seems that Craigslist should be broken up and regulated so that newspapers can regain diva77 Dec 2018 #53
You know local news is the most important. True Blue American Dec 2018 #38
As a Montgomery County resident myself.. Armymedic88 Dec 2018 #51
I'm retired now mickswalkabout41 Dec 2018 #56
maybe we ought to have a "former news professionals" group on DU. Grasswire2 Dec 2018 #59
That would be interesting UpInArms Dec 2018 #60
Thank you for your service UpInArms Dec 2018 #61
He tried to be a politician without knowing how to politician. forgotmylogin Dec 2018 #43
Republicans seem to think... SergeStorms Dec 2018 #75
Attacking law enforcement & media is an old mob tactic Politico1776 Dec 2018 #69
His biggest mistake was being a shifty treasonous grifter running for president. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #2
Correct n/t malaise Dec 2018 #3
His biggest mistake was running for president in the first place, and "winning" just exacerbated tblue37 Dec 2018 #7
Yep, if he hadn't run he could've stayed being a shitty, treasonous grifter... brush Dec 2018 #21
Poetic justice. Scarsdale Dec 2018 #27
Yes, it is justice. brush Dec 2018 #37
His ranting about fake news puts reporters in danger YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #4
Fits the widely covered song of 'I Fought the Law' [and the law won]. empedocles Dec 2018 #5
Good one! True Blue American Dec 2018 #20
Demanding and expecting loyalty Zambero Dec 2018 #9
He's mocked or insulted the intelligence community as well Jarqui Dec 2018 #12
I suspect Mueller's had help from our allies' intelligence services YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #33
imho, his biggest mistake was BREAKING the law. If he hadn't, the Law wouldn't be after him at all. FreepFryer Dec 2018 #13
It is a mistake to seek public office if you have entire cemeteries in your closet. Marcuse Dec 2018 #15
It's still infuriating Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2018 #16
Yes - this! (eom) Loge23 Dec 2018 #17
Not talking about UPINARMS local paper, watoos Dec 2018 #24
His own party didn't vet him - shame on them! FakeNoose Dec 2018 #66
Many grassroots republicans hated him when he was just one of many candidates. Scotch-Irish Dec 2018 #70
Old Adage: TruckFump Dec 2018 #18
He always felt he was above the law ailsagirl Dec 2018 #22
Since at leat the 80s. dchill Dec 2018 #73
he's either pissed off or disappointed nearly everyone unblock Dec 2018 #23
Also, he has repeatedly PatSeg Dec 2018 #25
It's a classic blunder NewJeffCT Dec 2018 #28
How did we post the same thing at the same time? Dread Pirate Roberts Dec 2018 #39
That is so freaking awesome!!! One of my all time favorites too!! blugbox Dec 2018 #41
Was going to post the same thing, scrolled first to see if anyone else's brain leaped straight dbackjon Dec 2018 #62
Inconceivable! Dread Pirate Roberts Dec 2018 #29
Iran Bucky Dec 2018 #34
You stole my joke from me. nt Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2018 #47
" It's tax fraud, bank fraud, etc." blue-wave Dec 2018 #30
We will never forget that he literally stole the Presidential election democratisphere Dec 2018 #31
I have faith in the president Bucky Dec 2018 #32
oops: George II Dec 2018 #36
Trump Has Spit in the Eye of Law Enforcement Too Many Times dlk Dec 2018 #44
It must be tearing the FBI apart that they have to investigate GOP crimes. ffr Dec 2018 #45
Good point. n/t Scotch-Irish Dec 2018 #71
His biggest problem coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #48
Jackpot..!!!!!!!!! You have hit the Jackpot..all goes to you....millions, and millions and millions Stuart G Dec 2018 #76
Bingo coeur_de_lion Dec 2018 #77
he pissed off the media also Demovictory9 Dec 2018 #49
And since he's pissed off law enforcement, I wonder when the democrats take over the House... SWBTATTReg Dec 2018 #52
There are so many crimes to choose from. It's a smorgasbord. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #55
Trump may just want to see the world burn, like The Joker in Dark Knight. Garrett78 Dec 2018 #57
Starting with the CIA was pure brilliance though! czarjak Dec 2018 #58
Money laundering, dealing with sanctioned banks and governments....it's endless..... lindysalsagal Dec 2018 #63
They are still saying he can't be indicted while POTUS BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #64
Not to mention the intelligence community. "Believing" Putin over them. Although we all know Amaryllis Dec 2018 #65
I hope you are right. Hound him until he is a quiver mass of jelled fat. usaf-vet Dec 2018 #67
The DOJ & Media don't take it personally! It's not NEW! Politico1776 Dec 2018 #68
I disagree: he wasn't elected president--he was placed into the position by illegal means. C Moon Dec 2018 #74
Appreciate the sentiment, but I'm hoping that his biggest... dchill Dec 2018 #72
So you are saying that if "the law" likes you, they will hughee99 Dec 2018 #78
Go ahead and poke the bear...if you dare Pepsidog Dec 2018 #79

ProfessorGAC

(64,863 posts)
1. Most Of The Media Ain't Too Pleased, Either
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:44 AM
Dec 2018

Now, the execs are happy because ratings, but the actual on the ground reporters are pretty upset.

No matter whether SHS tries to spin that PINO meant "FAKE NEWS" is the enemy of the people, nobody believes that the intent wasn't to paint journalists themselves as the enemy.

I'm pretty sure no journalist considers themselves the enemy of the people. I'm not a journalist, but it would make me mad.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
6. I owned and edited a small county newspaper for 10 years
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:51 AM
Dec 2018

And the Republicans hated me ... a very red rural area ... I have had my life threatened several times, been assaulted, and have had many threats to be sued ... all for printing public information...

I cannot express my utter disgust for the continuing assaults on our media and journalists.

ProfessorGAC

(64,863 posts)
8. Thanks For The Amplification
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:54 AM
Dec 2018

Like i said, i'm not journalist, but i supposed that sort of thing would be infuriating. You just made it clear my instincts were sound.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
10. We sold the paper in December 2016
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:03 PM
Dec 2018

Am certain they would be throwing bricks and firebombs at me if I was still there

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
14. Me, too
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:07 PM
Dec 2018

I had to stop for a variety of reasons ... but a part of me wishes I could continue to be sticking my thumb in their eyes ... lol!

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
19. And I am quite sure
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:44 PM
Dec 2018

You are sorely missed. But,you can be proud of what you did!

Our local paper is the Dayton Daily started by a Democratic Governor, Governor Cox. The family o
Is still involved and their Investigative Reporting on Charter Schools, Politics in the Churches,etc. have made them to this day a best read.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
26. Thanks, True Blue
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:11 PM
Dec 2018

The last year that I was there, I was named president of the NW Missouri Press Association

I hope to think that I made a difference... in at least exposing them to accurate reporting and providing a wile new thought process ...

I have always believed that once exposed to the truth, they would have to make a conscious decision to choose either to ignore it or debate it in their own minds

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
35. But they have to recognize it as truth to be forced to make that decision.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:22 PM
Dec 2018

And they don't. (At least those in the base who are fully propagandized.) They are able to categorically repudiate truth without examining it.

That is the tragedy of a cult.

I don't know how America is going to get past the problem we currently have with the RW propaganda; the culmination of a forty year effort to distort reality.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
40. Taking back the media is a hard thing
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:32 PM
Dec 2018

I was always underfunded and overworked...

Many reasons .. too few local businesses... because of the death of small town America (thanks squallmart) leads to a lower revenue base ... making it impossible to be able to hire full time help ... so, ten years with no down time ... no vacation ever ... I put one paper out from the hospice room of my dying mother ...

I don’t have many answers, but I do see the big picture ... it could be done, but there must be some additional support

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
42. an old friend of mine who is a bigwig in Washington investigative reporting says..
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 02:02 PM
Dec 2018

...that America needs a strong Union newspaper. A national paper, with the force of American workers behind it. Don't know how that would come about, though.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
46. I don't know how that would come about
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 02:20 PM
Dec 2018

But, it could be an avenue... the newspaper business is a fairly complex thing ...

I wish there was a place where that dialogue could even begin

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
50. I applaud and wish you the best. I loved reading the small town newspapers that I got when I ...
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:16 PM
Dec 2018

went from STLMO to Lebanon/Buffalo/Bennett Springs/Lake of the Ozarks area (my family and I were from these areas). Full of news about local area which I craved. I totally understand your difficulties though, being unable to generate enough to hire help, working nonstop for 10 years as you say. One of the biggest and saddest things I see is the demise of the 'small town' downtown districts, as you say, Walmart's destroyed a lot of these businesses.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
54. Thank you
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:30 PM
Dec 2018

I have had many of my readers approach me and tell me how much they miss my paper.

I miss it also ... I wish its new owners had kept its format and content... but alas, now ... all who read it are less informed ... 😔

diva77

(7,629 posts)
53. seems that Craigslist should be broken up and regulated so that newspapers can regain
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:26 PM
Dec 2018

the revenue lost when Craigslist lured everyone away from paid classified ads -- might help at least

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
38. You know local news is the most important.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:23 PM
Dec 2018

Even on TV News. A school in Indiana is now locked down. Someone reported the plan, but the guy managed to get in. The teen gunman took his own life.

Richmond is just 20 miles on I 70 from me.

 

Armymedic88

(251 posts)
51. As a Montgomery County resident myself..
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:20 PM
Dec 2018

I concur with your sentiment on the DDN! My time in the service has led to many parts of the country and have read quite a many newspaper, but my hometown DDN stands atop for sure!

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
61. Thank you for your service
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 06:53 PM
Dec 2018

... I try to explain to folks ... the only people who run into danger are police, firefighters and press ..

forgotmylogin

(7,521 posts)
43. He tried to be a politician without knowing how to politician.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 02:05 PM
Dec 2018

You gotta kiss babies and make people like you...not just the people who say nice things. You can't be a petulant whine-bag and expect people to just give you whatever you want.

(Under ideal circumstances,) Politicians make compromises that make everyone happy. There is give-and-take in "dealmaking". DJT is a spoiled bully who isn't very good at that unless it involves arm-twisting "Do this or it will be bad for you!"

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
75. Republicans seem to think...
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 04:34 AM
Dec 2018

that businessmen are the ultimate choice for a president. They think government can, and should, be run like a business. Wrong! We had our "first MBA president" with G.W. Bush, a total disaster. President Obama cleaned up his messes just in time for businessman number two to steal another election, "the best negotiator in the world", Donald Von Fuckface. Experts aren't really sure if a Democrat will be able to repair the damage done by this "Wharton School" dullard.

Trump's main problem (out of a seemingly bottomless pit of problems) is that he honestly believes he's the smartest man on the planet, and that his "gut" is a better judge of situational data than sober, measured, educated thought. Him and his fucking "gut'!

Trump is not a "people person", as he likes to think. He's only a "people person" in his mind if those people are fawning sycophants who shower him with praise. The slightest bit of conflict and he falls to pieces.

Our government is in total disarray thanks to the "businessman" who was going to run our country like a business. Trouble is, Trump was lousy at business (with at least four bankruptcies to prove it), and he was the worst choice anyone could have promoted as a viable candidate for president. The Russians liked him though, and look who we have as "president".

Politico1776

(2 posts)
69. Attacking law enforcement & media is an old mob tactic
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:11 AM
Dec 2018

Attacking law enforcement and the media is nothing new.
Al Capone did it in 1920’s, John Gotti in the 1980’s.
Ever eccentric mob boss, has used this tactic successfully until they are finally brought down.
Make no mistake Donald Trump is his own mob boss and the Trump
Corporation is a criminal organization.
However only because Trump was elected president, he’s doing it on a much bigger scale.
It’s a common flamboyant criminal, PR coping method, to tell the public;
“love me, I’m one of you & law enforcement and the media are lying to you and picking on me. “
Anyone who’s lived in the beltway and been in business has known for decades Donald J Trump was a con man.
Why do you think he didn’t win any beltway states?
The Justice Department is not gunning for him, they are just doing their job.
The media is not out to get him either, they too are just doing their job.
He most likely could have continued to commit crimes until he died but running and winning as President put a spot light on himself.
Now the chickens are coming home to roost and his days are numbered.
His die hard core followers are only about 25% of the voters.
Yes they are the loudest and yes they will scream louder when he goes down but like Capone’s and Gotti’s followers they’ll eventually get over it.
We are getting close to the end and his”witch hunt”, Blame the Democrats, Blame the DOJ, Blame the media, deflection tactic will not save him in the end.

tblue37

(65,227 posts)
7. His biggest mistake was running for president in the first place, and "winning" just exacerbated
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:53 AM
Dec 2018

the consequences.

brush

(53,743 posts)
21. Yep, if he hadn't run he could've stayed being a shitty, treasonous grifter...
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:58 PM
Dec 2018

and no one would be the wiser save for those he cheated.

Now we're watching it all come down—brand, businesses, family, all of it.

Woohoo!

Funny how ya think it's never gonna happen, then it does suddenly—like the Berlin wall and the Vietnam war with people hanging off helicopters.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
27. Poetic justice.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:13 PM
Dec 2018

I hope he lives to regret the day he ever thought of running for office. He has been exposed as a fraud and a cheat. He is his own biggest fan, and his own biggest enemy at the same time. STUPID is as stupid does.

brush

(53,743 posts)
37. Yes, it is justice.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:23 PM
Dec 2018

Remember Ann Richards cracked that W was born on third base and thought he hit a triple? Well trump was born at home plate with his daddy's millions and thought it was his brains that hit the home run.

He bought it all crumbling down upon himself.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
4. His ranting about fake news puts reporters in danger
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:47 AM
Dec 2018

Scaring people makes them pissed off later.

So no, most of the media aren’t fond of him.

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
9. Demanding and expecting loyalty
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:00 PM
Dec 2018

while offering nothing in return. Even slimeballs like Jeff Sessions come to realize they should never have hitched their wagons to this creep. Indeed, everything Trump touches dies.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
12. He's mocked or insulted the intelligence community as well
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:05 PM
Dec 2018

Pissing off the Americans who will determine if the Russians and his campaign were involved with each other is not too smart.

I agree that his financial crimes, that he probably hid with payoffs, should be fairly easy to find and prove - as the guilty pleas for the financial crimes of Manafort and Cohen suggest.

The beauty there is that not only can he face jail time, they can fine him and snatch his assets for restitution. Cohen and Manafort lost millions - Trump will probably dwarf them.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
33. I suspect Mueller's had help from our allies' intelligence services
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:19 PM
Dec 2018

Because they know how dangerous Trump is and because he’s such a jerk

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
13. imho, his biggest mistake was BREAKING the law. If he hadn't, the Law wouldn't be after him at all.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:06 PM
Dec 2018

No matter what insults or taunts he might have leveled, it's about his criminality.

There is no Deep State. Trump's a traitorous criminal first and foremost, and all the rest is just sauce for the goose.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
16. It's still infuriating
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:28 PM
Dec 2018

that Trump was basically allowed to skate into office (mostly) unvetted by the MSM, but they were relentless about going after every slight *whiff* of impropriety by Clinton (that- as per usual- never amounted to anything)

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
24. Not talking about UPINARMS local paper,
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:01 PM
Dec 2018

but the M$M is corporate controlled right wing. Democrats face an uphill battle because of the right controlling the narrative. Not releasing his taxes should have been a major issue. The fact that he was an admitted sexual pervert, assaulter, accused rapist, should have been a major issue.

We have a lot of good journalists in the M$M, but most of the time they can only report on what the narrative is.
I have said this before, Fox News says Obama beats his wife, CNN says they need more information, MSNBC says no he doesn't. It doesn't matter what CNN and MSNBC say because they are talking about Obama beating his wife.

The narrative, one of them, going on now is that we can't talk about impeachment, it will be bad for Democrats and Republicans. I defer to Auntie Maxine, impeach the sob.

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
66. His own party didn't vet him - shame on them!
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 10:05 PM
Dec 2018

Now they have to live with it. Just simple googling, making a few phone calls, checking his bank and tax records, would have told the GOP what a terrible candidate he was. AND what a terrible president he would become.

 

Scotch-Irish

(464 posts)
70. Many grassroots republicans hated him when he was just one of many candidates.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:37 AM
Dec 2018

But, as is their way, as soon as he was declared their republican candidate, he suddenly had so many awesome qualities, and he was what will make the "USA great again". They flip faster than a pancake at IHOP as soon as their "team" chooses for them who they will support.

unblock

(52,126 posts)
23. he's either pissed off or disappointed nearly everyone
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:01 PM
Dec 2018

this is what he does. he insults people, he offends people, and he causes people to loss money.

who would have thought it would work out poorly for a politician to insult the majority of people as well as journalists and the media.

the list of people who he hasn't harmed keeps shrinking, and those who don't feel disappointed are simply waiting for their moment. it will come.

PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
25. Also, he has repeatedly
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:07 PM
Dec 2018

attacked and pissed off the FBI. Did he think they would just roll over and play dead? Does he not realize the extensive resources that the FBI has?

Trump has pretty much pissed off everyone, naively thinking no one would react. Maybe he's not so much naive as he is blindly arrogant.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
28. It's a classic blunder
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:15 PM
Dec 2018

not as well known as Never Get Involved in a Land War in Asia, or never going in against a Sicilian when Death is on the Line.

blugbox

(951 posts)
41. That is so freaking awesome!!! One of my all time favorites too!!
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:38 PM
Dec 2018

I'm glad to see you guys were on the exact wavelength there!

You do get bonus points for your user name and post title as well.

As far as all this tRump madness though... can we SKIP TO THE END!!

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
62. Was going to post the same thing, scrolled first to see if anyone else's brain leaped straight
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 06:57 PM
Dec 2018

to The Princess Bride.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,896 posts)
29. Inconceivable!
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:15 PM
Dec 2018

I thought the biggest mistake you could make was getting into a land war in Asia followed right behind by never going against a Sicilian when death is on the line!

blue-wave

(4,344 posts)
30. " It's tax fraud, bank fraud, etc."
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:16 PM
Dec 2018

It might be that, but he and 99% of the GOPee should be tried for treason. But it won't happen.
Why? Because the system is messed up and lacks the clarity needed to see the immense danger into which our country has been led.

Heck, Cohen got 3 years? 3 years???? Ummm, how many felonies was he charged with? How many Russians are his friends? We have people serving longer in the joint for smoking a joint.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
31. We will never forget that he literally stole the Presidential election
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:16 PM
Dec 2018

aided and abetted by his buddy putin.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
32. I have faith in the president
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:18 PM
Dec 2018

It might be one of the biggest mistakes you can make.
It might be one of the biggest mistakes that I can make.
But I have faith in our president. I'm certain that he can easily screw up bigger than this. We have only to wait and watch. And pray the consequences don't destroy more lives.

dlk

(11,514 posts)
44. Trump Has Spit in the Eye of Law Enforcement Too Many Times
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 02:14 PM
Dec 2018

His actions are sure to come back and haunt him.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
45. It must be tearing the FBI apart that they have to investigate GOP crimes.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 02:15 PM
Dec 2018

And be honest about it.

coeur_de_lion

(3,676 posts)
48. His biggest problem
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 02:42 PM
Dec 2018

aside from his criminal behavior is he

Can’t
Keep
His
Fucking
Mouth
Shut

Or stay off Twitter.

He incriminates himself about twice a day.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
76. Jackpot..!!!!!!!!! You have hit the Jackpot..all goes to you....millions, and millions and millions
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 08:35 AM
Dec 2018

of????????

HE CAN'T KEEP HIS FUCKING MOUTH OR TWITTER SHUT...!!!!!!!


....It ain't complicated.....no....Simple...Shut the fuck up..!!!! .........very short story.....

I taught in a high school in a large city near me. History, History, History..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I learned a very significant lesson teaching history...Hay, Mr. G. we got to talk sometimes.......
....It ain't all about you...we might have an idea or two...the students let me know in many ways.....
.........YES THEY DID..!!!!! GUESS WHAT?.......THEY WERE RIGHT,CORRECT, ON THE BALL, HONEST.
.......100 PERCENT, SMART, BRILLIANT, SUPER DUPERS. TELLING THE TOTAL TRUTH.....

It wasn't all about me...After a while, I learned that the students often were smarter than me on some things...
Yes, they were.......And if I listened, I would learn a whole lot..!! If I listened, we would all learn a whole lot. Yes, sometimes a student could teach us (rest of the class) something we need to know.
.........Mr Trump has not learned that one....He cannot shut the fuck up, and listen....
.........It doesn't matter why he does this, but a leader of any large endeavor, if he is to be effective...
.........MUST LISTEN SOMETIMES....Trump is still in his first year of teaching/listening...he cannot
.........shut the fuck up.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
52. And since he's pissed off law enforcement, I wonder when the democrats take over the House...
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:21 PM
Dec 2018

Of Representatives, what secrets will then come forth? After all, w/ the sham hearings that the repugs held constantly on HRC and supposedly on Comey/Russian investigations, what truths will be revealed finally?!

I got a feeling some serious crap w/ finally be told.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
57. Trump may just want to see the world burn, like The Joker in Dark Knight.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 05:40 PM
Dec 2018

Not that he isn't pissed off about potentially having to face consequences. But I also think there's a lot of gamesmanship and theater taking place.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
65. Not to mention the intelligence community. "Believing" Putin over them. Although we all know
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 09:32 PM
Dec 2018

he didn't actually believe Putin because he knew the truth all along, although sometimes i wonder if his brain is such that he convinces himself that what he wants to be true actually IS true.

Politico1776

(2 posts)
68. The DOJ & Media don't take it personally! It's not NEW!
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:02 AM
Dec 2018

Attacking law enforcement and the media is nothing new.
Al Capone did it in 1920’s, John Gotti in the 1980’s.
Ever eccentric mob boss, has used this tactic successfully until they are finally brought down.
Make no mistake Donald Trump is his own mob boss and the Trump
Corporation is a criminal organization.
However only because Trump was elected president, he’s doing it on a much bigger scale.
It’s a common flamboyant criminals, PR coping method, to tell the public;
“love me, I’m one of you & law enforcement and the media are lying to you and picking on me. “
Anyone who’s lived in the beltway and been in business has known for decades Donald J Trump was a con man.
Why do you think he didn’t win any beltway states?
The Justice Department is not gunning for him, they are just doing their job.
The media is not out to get him either, they too are just doing their job.
He most likely could have continued to commit crimes until he died but running and winning as President put a spot light on himself.
Now the chickens are coming home to roost and his days are numbered.
His die hard core followers are only about 25% of the voters.
Yes they are the loudest and yes they will scream louder when he goes down but like Capone’s and Gotti’s followers they’ll eventually get over it.
We are getting close to the end and his”witch hunt”, Blame the Democrats, Blame the DOJ, Blame the media, deflection tactic will not save him in the end.

C Moon

(12,209 posts)
74. I disagree: he wasn't elected president--he was placed into the position by illegal means.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 03:32 AM
Dec 2018

The bastard needs to be removed from our White House—along with Pence.

dchill

(38,447 posts)
72. Appreciate the sentiment, but I'm hoping that his biggest...
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:54 AM
Dec 2018

mistake was conspiring with Russians the subvert the election.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
78. So you are saying that if "the law" likes you, they will
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 11:08 AM
Dec 2018

Let things slide that they wouldn’t if they didn’t like you. If they don’t like you they’ll never stop investigating you until they ruin you?

Funny, some republicans have been saying that for years now. It’s what they call the “deep state”.

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