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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust in: Donald Trump is a "speed freak" who crushes up Adderall and snorts it
Link to tweet
ProfessorGAC
(65,006 posts)If this can't be proven, i'd prefer we just let this pass. There's a laundry list of reasons to loathe him and his gang now.
Bucky
(53,998 posts)I agree it's not high minded policy debate to point out the leader of the Free world is an adderrol snorting sex predator. But neither is the 🍄 weiner stuff and we all get a kick out of that.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Just a Weirdo
(488 posts)He's been well-known cheap speed freak.
https://gawker.com/rumor-doctor-prescribes-donald-trump-cheap-speed-1782901680
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)I knew I had read this before.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)ZeroSomeBrains
(638 posts)It would also explain the 2am tweets and the allegation that he doesn't sleep.
Chalco
(1,308 posts)dalton99a
(81,455 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)llmart
(15,536 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Here they list side effects from Phentermine
C. Richard Allen, the director of the Georgia Drugs and Narcotics Agency, called phentermine cheap speed to The New York Times. Side effects of phentermine include:
Trouble with thinking, speaking, or walking
Decreased ability to exercise
False or unusual sense of well-being
Insomnia
Nervousness
Increase in sexual ability, desire, drive, or performance
Confusion
You could not get a better match of symptoms including "false or unusual sense of well-being"
On the sexual side it probably affects his desire but performance is diminished by the well known side effects of Propecia
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)joking he must have been snorting coke? I was on Twitter and 3 different journalists said no, he crushes and snorts Adderall. I posted it on here.
Bucky
(53,998 posts)You'll see it's actually an unsubstantiated eyewitness account.
It's posted here
https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100211549402
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)apparently it is, and it's bad: https://www.addictioncampuses.com/adderall/insufflation/
When someone snorts large doses of Adderall, they may experience irrational periods of aggression or paranoia. The more frequently someone snorts or abuses Adderall, the more likely they are to experience sudden mood swings.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)It just hits you a little faster and slightly more intensely, and wears off a little quicker (8 hours vs 12 hours).
Not that I'd know personally, just what I've heard.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Cha
(297,160 posts)It missed the boat on that with trump.
Adderall's Effect On Your Brain: Whatever Obscure Benefits There Are, It's Not Worth It
https://www.medicaldaily.com/adderalls-effect-your-brain-whatever-obscure-benefits-there-are-its-not-worth-it-313862
KPN
(15,642 posts)Wouldn't it be nice if this were corroborated? Another log on the bonfire can't hurt.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)demmiblue
(36,841 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,851 posts)A lot of stand-up works well precisely because it is something true, and boy, does this have the ring of truth.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)But there's THE MOST ANNOYING friggin' banging in the background ... it's like he's performing in the dining room at Benihana ...
Rorey
(8,445 posts)But then it got really interesting, so I didn't even notice that the banging had stopped.
colorado_ufo
(5,733 posts)He just needs to work on his initial delivery a little bit, perhaps he's somewhat nervous when he first gets up there. However, the Trump schtick seals the deal!
"In humor there is truth."
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Obviously it's not working.
FM123
(10,053 posts)safeinOhio
(32,674 posts)Pee in the cup?
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dem4decades
(11,283 posts)With Hillary.
It was weird.
mn9driver
(4,425 posts)The likelihood of this rumor being true is low.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)However, a LOT of people regard taking addictive drugs that come from their doctor in an entirely different light. Like 'I'm not some low-life drunk/druggie, cause this is PRESCRIBED to me!'
Plus there's the fact that if the brother is an alcoholic, then addiction may run in the family. In pics I've seen, Ol' Fred looks like he probably liked his drink, too.
There's also the fact that you KNOW this gonna get back to Trump. This guy would be taking a big risk of getting sued by Trump for saying this ... hell even if it IS true, let alone if it's not.
This is very, very believable to me, given the totality of the circumstances.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)MANY drug abusers (alcohol is a big one) look down on the "other" drugs and users.
I know a few semi-alcoholics who think weed is the devils drug but alcohol is perfectly fine.
getagrip_already
(14,736 posts)And he lies about everything. Don't take it as fact. Yes, his brother died, but EVERYTHING else about this story is suspect.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I think you're conflating two separate things.
waddirum
(979 posts)and being an Adderall freak oneself are not mutually exclusive concepts.
Much like being a germaphobe does not preclude one from being into piss play.
Aristus
(66,327 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)before he claimed he quit. HEre is the link: https://www.scribd.com/document/372716093/According-to-Medical-Records-Obtained-by-Newsweek
and here are his tweets from last march.
Link to tweet
I don't think the guy is lying.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)peggysue2
(10,828 posts)You can have huge spikes from manic behavior to falling off a cliff after days of no sleep. Snorting the substance gets the drug into your system quicker. Ruinous to your health, particularly for a 72-year old man.
Back in the day, when I was young and stupid, I was addicted to diet pills. Watching Trumpski, I've always believed the man was on something. His behavior during the debates and those wild rallies? He's been jacked up on something for quite awhile.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)I believe he is doing either-the symptoms are obvious to me.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)Those of us with addiction problems in our past and/or those who have watched friends/family deal with these high-highs & low-lows, recognize the behavior simply through observation. Trumpski's behavior is not normal but absolutely explainable. He's jacked up on something.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)It's almost become obvious, at this point.
And it's nothing compared to his treason and other monumentally sleazeball behaviors and criminal activities.
anarch
(6,535 posts)FFS, does he sniff airplane glue out of a brown paper bag, too?
What a loser.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)kskiska
(27,045 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Trump keeling over on the can would make an epic tale.
Only second to croaking in the sack with someone not named Melania ...
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)emulatorloo
(44,118 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Bucky
(53,998 posts)The comedian discussing his adderal habit said he had signed a non-disclosure agreement, but apparently the guy doesn't care. I assume he assumes the president is too busy with other concerns to launch yet one more lawsuit.
Cha
(297,160 posts)trump is on some kind of speed.. doncha think?
KCDebbie
(664 posts)Compulsive liar into our Oval Office...
Well, the Russians and the poorly educated that seem to make up two/thirds of Trump supporters!
UTUSN
(70,684 posts)Plus the odd non-sleeping.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Sounds like something he'd be great at handling, given his long list of accompli...oh yeah, never mind.
tinrobot
(10,895 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Adderall contains a combination of amphetamine and dextroamphetamine. Amphetamine and dextroamphetamine are central nervous system stimulants that affect chemicals in the brain and nerves that contribute to hyperactivity and impulse control.
Adderall is used to treat narcolepsy and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
violetpastille
(1,483 posts)If not the world.
But why is he obese?
ecstatic
(32,688 posts)the thing is, they don't work if you don't actually have something productive to focus on. If you don't have an agenda or a to-do-list, it's pretty much worthless.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Not only can they affect people different ways (I had a good friend in my early 20's who I swear could totally eat on Crystal, like eat a LOT!), but also after a lot of years, the appetite suppressing effect wears down (as do most of their other effects, just like most drugs ... tolerance).
Plus for all we know Trump would be 400lbs w/o the Adderall.
violetpastille
(1,483 posts)"Or a guy sitting on their bed who weighs 400 pounds"
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Blue Owl
(50,355 posts)n/t
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)I'm stealing it!
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czarjak
(11,269 posts)paulkienitz
(1,296 posts)There's at least one story from ten or twenty years ago of him getting Doctor Feelgood prescriptions for speed, and it was noted in several places that the behavior profile matches that of someone on speed. So this may be unsubstantiated, but it's also quite plausible.
llmart
(15,536 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)donnie is a freaking disgusting degenerate - both personally and professionally - but there has NEVER been a whiff of scandal involving either liquor or drugs. He's famously against both.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)a hidden prescription drug problem. Like he does with everything else, he has probably convinced himself that because he got it from a "doctor" that it's perfectly fine and therefore he's not a low-life druggie. Also, he is a flaming liar. I wouldn't trust anything he said about his own habits. The symptoms he exhibits are right in line with those of a speed freak.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)He does exhibit many symptoms of an addictive personality but that doesn't always translate into drugs or alcohol. But you bring up another good point - he finds excuses for everything he does so if he was given drugs by a doctor, he would never see himself as a "lowlife" addict. I'd have to learn more, much more, before I would repeat this story.
jmowreader
(50,556 posts)BEFORE or AFTER he was in the vodka business?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)an alcoholic. MANY drug dealers don't do drugs themselves, they're only looking for the money.
violetpastille
(1,483 posts)And he seems to be gaining weight around his hips and thighs since he became President.
What is going on with his health?
Different Drummer
(7,614 posts)violetpastille
(1,483 posts)But most addicts have awful diets. They don't like to eat very much though.
Is he forcing himself to eat? Has he completely fucked up his endocrine system? Questions, questions.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I have known of obese or very hefty drug addicts. They don't all look like strung out rock-stars.
Hekate
(90,657 posts)Runningdawg
(4,516 posts)I got 2 - after OP and at the end of comments.
shanny
(6,709 posts)not all, mind you--his bedrock "issues" are just that--but a lot nevertheless
lame54
(35,287 posts)elocs
(22,568 posts)and that just ain't going to happen.
ffr
(22,669 posts)That would explain a lot.
Ponietz
(2,963 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,000 posts)That guy could hoover up a bag of cement with his nostrils. I'm sure it's more than just adderal.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Particularly the ones in Downfall (Der Untergang)...
hexola
(4,835 posts)I worked with a young fellow - who is/was an extremely talented country music singer and guitar player.
Sings like an angel
I'd probably be on tour somewhere in the USA if this douchebag wasn't an Adderol junkie.
I've been working with him since he was a teenager - so I've watched the whole thing.
He is the best - and not afraid to tell you.
He is better than everyone else
He's always right
Everyone else sucks
Trust me - that attitude won't get you very far in the music biz. He was a flaming failure.
I'll never forget, before one our biggest theater shows - we're getting ready to hit the stage - and he goes back to the green room crushes a pill - snorts it - and heads for the stage...hate to say - that was the best show we ever did!
But - it was pretty much downhill from there - now he's a broken moron who posts videos of him playing guitar and singing in his bathroom.