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Just in: Donald Trump is a "speed freak" who crushes up Adderall and snorts it (Original Post) MelissaB Dec 2018 OP
There's Enough Dirt Already ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #1
It's gossip, but then so is history. It's what humans do. Bucky Dec 2018 #84
We don't need unsubstantiated rumors to defeat Trump. MineralMan Dec 2018 #2
No, but I love seeing him humiliated. MelissaB Dec 2018 #5
Actually it is fact.. Just a Weirdo Dec 2018 #7
Thanks for the reminder. MelissaB Dec 2018 #11
It would explain Dirty Donny*s super suspicious sniffing all the damn time Achilleaze Dec 2018 #14
That sniffing constantly seemed to indicate something ZeroSomeBrains Dec 2018 #46
Exactly. I was thinking the same thing! Chalco Dec 2018 #65
+1 dalton99a Dec 2018 #29
That's what all of the sniffling, snorting and wheezing was during his speeches! Dustlawyer Dec 2018 #34
And the pacing behind her. llmart Dec 2018 #43
I was going to call bull shit because he is abstains from alcohol, then I clicked on your link grantcart Dec 2018 #44
Do you remember when he kept sniffing during a debate with Hillary and everybody kept octoberlib Dec 2018 #58
If you watch the stand up comic's video... Bucky Dec 2018 #86
I had no idea one could snort Adderall, or that it was a thing, but The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #3
It's not much worse than just eating it, though it'll give ya pretty bad nose problems after a time mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #16
It explains captain bonkers sniffles during the debates. sarcasmo Dec 2018 #73
+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #79
I just looked it up.. it's suppose to.. Cha Dec 2018 #87
That's actually believeable. KPN Dec 2018 #4
His supporters would not care at all. LiberalArkie Dec 2018 #48
I just finished watching the video: demmiblue Dec 2018 #6
That is very interesting. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #15
And you do REALLY want to FF to 3:28. Not cause he's a bad comic (though he's not great) mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #17
Yeah, what the heck was that? Rorey Dec 2018 #31
Wow! Rorey Dec 2018 #28
He actually had some pretty great lines! colorado_ufo Dec 2018 #54
There's been a rumor forever he's addicted to Adipex an amphetamine like weight loss drug. dewsgirl Dec 2018 #8
There is nothing about trumpy that would surprise me! FM123 Dec 2018 #9
Can the House demand that he...... safeinOhio Dec 2018 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz Dec 2018 #57
I have no idea if he is or not but he does sniff about like at the debate. dem4decades Dec 2018 #12
Trump is known to be contemptuous of drinkers. mn9driver Dec 2018 #13
Right because his brother died from his alcoholism ... mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #20
absolutely Locrian Dec 2018 #37
Trump is the source of that rumor.....; getagrip_already Dec 2018 #47
Carrie Nation had no issues at all with opium use. LanternWaste Dec 2018 #51
Being contemptuous of drinkers waddirum Dec 2018 #71
That might help explain his popularity out in meth country. Aristus Dec 2018 #18
Eichewald had this story killed by his new editor at NEwsweek Raine1967 Dec 2018 #19
He sure doesn't have much energy for a speed freak. blueinredohio Dec 2018 #21
He might take amphetamines sporatically or play with the dosage peggysue2 Dec 2018 #32
As a former speed freak and later a coke user redstateblues Dec 2018 #78
There you go! peggysue2 Dec 2018 #93
That would explain the sniffing. Vinca Dec 2018 #22
You know what? Big deal. Who cares? Dave Starsky Dec 2018 #23
jeez, you'd think someone with the resources he has would be able to afford cocaine anarch Dec 2018 #24
Since this is a prescription drug, he doesn't consider it drug abuse. Buckeyeblue Dec 2018 #36
Like Elvis. kskiska Dec 2018 #70
Let Us Pray ... mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #75
Doesn't he have a lawyer to kill these stories ???? .... Oh wait..... OnDoutside Dec 2018 #25
... emulatorloo Dec 2018 #33
OMG! Equinox Moon Dec 2018 #40
He's got teams of them Bucky Dec 2018 #85
lol JHan Dec 2018 #92
It's been obvious Cha Dec 2018 #26
So, the Russians installed a stupid, racist, drug-addicted KCDebbie Dec 2018 #27
Been saying this since the rebuke primaries, his sniffling and snorting. UTUSN Dec 2018 #30
Maybe Wonderboy Jared could take this on as soon as he fixes the opioid crisis! flibbitygiblets Dec 2018 #35
Explains the excessive sniffling during the debates. tinrobot Dec 2018 #38
Adderall - This does make sense to me. Here is what the drug is: Equinox Moon Dec 2018 #39
And it does make you feel like you are the smartest person in the room. violetpastille Dec 2018 #56
LOL! I've taken ADD. meds and I ended up losing a lot of weight but ecstatic Dec 2018 #60
Not everyone in the world loses weight on amphetamines ... mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #77
Trump could be Russia, he could be China violetpastille Dec 2018 #80
You got it! mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #81
He's Nostrildumbass Blue Owl Dec 2018 #41
Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Love that. Ilsa Dec 2018 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author linuxuser3 Dec 2018 #42
"Fake news", of course! czarjak Dec 2018 #45
the idea that he's on speed came up a couple of times during the campaign paulkienitz Dec 2018 #49
I believe it. llmart Dec 2018 #50
How nice for him to wait until Trump appears to be going down. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #52
OK - finally we have a story I don't believe leftynyc Dec 2018 #53
However he has a very addictive personality and it would not surprise me at all if he had smirkymonkey Dec 2018 #62
Agree with what you're saying leftynyc Dec 2018 #90
Was he against alcohol... jmowreader Dec 2018 #72
It's been since his brother died leftynyc Dec 2018 #91
Why is he obese? violetpastille Dec 2018 #55
This explains the obesity. Different Drummer Dec 2018 #59
His diet is awful violetpastille Dec 2018 #61
Also, he doesn't move. smirkymonkey Dec 2018 #63
KnR to read thread later Hekate Dec 2018 #64
LOL anyone else see an ad for Adderall in this post? Runningdawg Dec 2018 #66
that would explain a lot shanny Dec 2018 #67
Sniff sniff lame54 Dec 2018 #68
We can suspect a lot, but can't prove anything without a drug test or tests elocs Dec 2018 #69
Side effects include heart problems, seizures, aggression, paranoia, and psychosis. ffr Dec 2018 #74
Hmmm Ponietz Dec 2018 #76
Sniffy McSniffleface C_U_L8R Dec 2018 #82
Trump's tantrums must rival Hitler's backscatter712 Dec 2018 #83
I know an Adderol addict - and he's EXACTLY like Trump hexola Dec 2018 #89

ProfessorGAC

(65,006 posts)
1. There's Enough Dirt Already
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:28 PM
Dec 2018

If this can't be proven, i'd prefer we just let this pass. There's a laundry list of reasons to loathe him and his gang now.

Bucky

(53,998 posts)
84. It's gossip, but then so is history. It's what humans do.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 05:31 AM
Dec 2018

I agree it's not high minded policy debate to point out the leader of the Free world is an adderrol snorting sex predator. But neither is the 🍄 weiner stuff and we all get a kick out of that.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
14. It would explain Dirty Donny*s super suspicious sniffing all the damn time
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:35 PM
Dec 2018
* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
46. That sniffing constantly seemed to indicate something
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 04:18 PM
Dec 2018

It would also explain the 2am tweets and the allegation that he doesn't sleep.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
44. I was going to call bull shit because he is abstains from alcohol, then I clicked on your link
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 04:11 PM
Dec 2018

Here they list side effects from Phentermine



C. Richard Allen, the director of the Georgia Drugs and Narcotics Agency, called phentermine “cheap speed” to The New York Times. Side effects of phentermine include:
•Trouble with thinking, speaking, or walking
•Decreased ability to exercise
•False or unusual sense of well-being
•Insomnia
•Nervousness
•Increase in sexual ability, desire, drive, or performance
•Confusion



You could not get a better match of symptoms including "false or unusual sense of well-being"

On the sexual side it probably affects his desire but performance is diminished by the well known side effects of Propecia

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
58. Do you remember when he kept sniffing during a debate with Hillary and everybody kept
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 04:48 PM
Dec 2018

joking he must have been snorting coke? I was on Twitter and 3 different journalists said no, he crushes and snorts Adderall. I posted it on here.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
3. I had no idea one could snort Adderall, or that it was a thing, but
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:29 PM
Dec 2018

apparently it is, and it's bad: https://www.addictioncampuses.com/adderall/insufflation/

Chronic and extended Adderall abuse can cause unpleasant changes in mood, due to the chemical changes it may produce in the brain. Common moods reported due to Adderall abuse include nervousness, agitation, anxiety, irritability, depression, confusion and restlessness.

When someone snorts large doses of Adderall, they may experience irrational periods of aggression or paranoia. The more frequently someone snorts or abuses Adderall, the more likely they are to experience sudden mood swings.


 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
16. It's not much worse than just eating it, though it'll give ya pretty bad nose problems after a time
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:41 PM
Dec 2018

It just hits you a little faster and slightly more intensely, and wears off a little quicker (8 hours vs 12 hours).

Not that I'd know personally, just what I've heard.

Cha

(297,160 posts)
87. I just looked it up.. it's suppose to..
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 05:40 AM
Dec 2018
"It also improves attention and focus"

It missed the boat on that with trump.

Adderall's Effect On Your Brain: Whatever Obscure Benefits There Are, It's Not Worth It

https://www.medicaldaily.com/adderalls-effect-your-brain-whatever-obscure-benefits-there-are-its-not-worth-it-313862

KPN

(15,642 posts)
4. That's actually believeable.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:29 PM
Dec 2018

Wouldn't it be nice if this were corroborated? Another log on the bonfire can't hurt.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,851 posts)
15. That is very interesting.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:38 PM
Dec 2018

A lot of stand-up works well precisely because it is something true, and boy, does this have the ring of truth.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
17. And you do REALLY want to FF to 3:28. Not cause he's a bad comic (though he's not great)
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:42 PM
Dec 2018

But there's THE MOST ANNOYING friggin' banging in the background ... it's like he's performing in the dining room at Benihana ...

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
31. Yeah, what the heck was that?
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:22 PM
Dec 2018

But then it got really interesting, so I didn't even notice that the banging had stopped.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
54. He actually had some pretty great lines!
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 04:41 PM
Dec 2018

He just needs to work on his initial delivery a little bit, perhaps he's somewhat nervous when he first gets up there. However, the Trump schtick seals the deal!

"In humor there is truth."

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
8. There's been a rumor forever he's addicted to Adipex an amphetamine like weight loss drug.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:31 PM
Dec 2018

Obviously it's not working.

Response to safeinOhio (Reply #10)

dem4decades

(11,283 posts)
12. I have no idea if he is or not but he does sniff about like at the debate.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:33 PM
Dec 2018

With Hillary.

It was weird.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
20. Right because his brother died from his alcoholism ...
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:47 PM
Dec 2018

However, a LOT of people regard taking addictive drugs that come from their doctor in an entirely different light. Like 'I'm not some low-life drunk/druggie, cause this is PRESCRIBED to me!'

Plus there's the fact that if the brother is an alcoholic, then addiction may run in the family. In pics I've seen, Ol' Fred looks like he probably liked his drink, too.

There's also the fact that you KNOW this gonna get back to Trump. This guy would be taking a big risk of getting sued by Trump for saying this ... hell even if it IS true, let alone if it's not.

This is very, very believable to me, given the totality of the circumstances.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
37. absolutely
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:54 PM
Dec 2018

MANY drug abusers (alcohol is a big one) look down on the "other" drugs and users.
I know a few semi-alcoholics who think weed is the devils drug but alcohol is perfectly fine.

getagrip_already

(14,736 posts)
47. Trump is the source of that rumor.....;
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 04:18 PM
Dec 2018

And he lies about everything. Don't take it as fact. Yes, his brother died, but EVERYTHING else about this story is suspect.

waddirum

(979 posts)
71. Being contemptuous of drinkers
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 08:03 PM
Dec 2018

and being an Adderall freak oneself are not mutually exclusive concepts.

Much like being a germaphobe does not preclude one from being into piss play.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
19. Eichewald had this story killed by his new editor at NEwsweek
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:44 PM
Dec 2018

before he claimed he quit. HEre is the link: https://www.scribd.com/document/372716093/According-to-Medical-Records-Obtained-by-Newsweek


and here are his tweets from last march.




I don't think the guy is lying.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
32. He might take amphetamines sporatically or play with the dosage
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:28 PM
Dec 2018

You can have huge spikes from manic behavior to falling off a cliff after days of no sleep. Snorting the substance gets the drug into your system quicker. Ruinous to your health, particularly for a 72-year old man.

Back in the day, when I was young and stupid, I was addicted to diet pills. Watching Trumpski, I've always believed the man was on something. His behavior during the debates and those wild rallies? He's been jacked up on something for quite awhile.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
78. As a former speed freak and later a coke user
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:51 AM
Dec 2018

I believe he is doing either-the symptoms are obvious to me.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
93. There you go!
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 12:47 PM
Dec 2018

Those of us with addiction problems in our past and/or those who have watched friends/family deal with these high-highs & low-lows, recognize the behavior simply through observation. Trumpski's behavior is not normal but absolutely explainable. He's jacked up on something.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
23. You know what? Big deal. Who cares?
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 02:56 PM
Dec 2018

It's almost become obvious, at this point.

And it's nothing compared to his treason and other monumentally sleazeball behaviors and criminal activities.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
24. jeez, you'd think someone with the resources he has would be able to afford cocaine
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:03 PM
Dec 2018

FFS, does he sniff airplane glue out of a brown paper bag, too?

What a loser.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
75. Let Us Pray ...
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:36 AM
Dec 2018

Trump keeling over on the can would make an epic tale.

Only second to croaking in the sack with someone not named Melania ...

Bucky

(53,998 posts)
85. He's got teams of them
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 05:34 AM
Dec 2018

The comedian discussing his adderal habit said he had signed a non-disclosure agreement, but apparently the guy doesn't care. I assume he assumes the president is too busy with other concerns to launch yet one more lawsuit.

 

KCDebbie

(664 posts)
27. So, the Russians installed a stupid, racist, drug-addicted
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:13 PM
Dec 2018

Compulsive liar into our Oval Office...

Well, the Russians and the poorly educated that seem to make up two/thirds of Trump supporters!

UTUSN

(70,684 posts)
30. Been saying this since the rebuke primaries, his sniffling and snorting.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:22 PM
Dec 2018

Plus the odd non-sleeping.





flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
35. Maybe Wonderboy Jared could take this on as soon as he fixes the opioid crisis!
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:53 PM
Dec 2018

Sounds like something he'd be great at handling, given his long list of accompli...oh yeah, never mind.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
39. Adderall - This does make sense to me. Here is what the drug is:
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:57 PM
Dec 2018
What is Adderall?

Adderall contains a combination of amphetamine and dextroamphetamine. Amphetamine and dextroamphetamine are central nervous system stimulants that affect chemicals in the brain and nerves that contribute to hyperactivity and impulse control.

Adderall is used to treat narcolepsy and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
56. And it does make you feel like you are the smartest person in the room.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 04:43 PM
Dec 2018

If not the world.

But why is he obese?

ecstatic

(32,688 posts)
60. LOL! I've taken ADD. meds and I ended up losing a lot of weight but
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 04:56 PM
Dec 2018

the thing is, they don't work if you don't actually have something productive to focus on. If you don't have an agenda or a to-do-list, it's pretty much worthless.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
77. Not everyone in the world loses weight on amphetamines ...
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:41 AM
Dec 2018

Not only can they affect people different ways (I had a good friend in my early 20's who I swear could totally eat on Crystal, like eat a LOT!), but also after a lot of years, the appetite suppressing effect wears down (as do most of their other effects, just like most drugs ... tolerance).

Plus for all we know Trump would be 400lbs w/o the Adderall.

Response to MelissaB (Original post)

paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
49. the idea that he's on speed came up a couple of times during the campaign
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 04:19 PM
Dec 2018

There's at least one story from ten or twenty years ago of him getting Doctor Feelgood prescriptions for speed, and it was noted in several places that the behavior profile matches that of someone on speed. So this may be unsubstantiated, but it's also quite plausible.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
53. OK - finally we have a story I don't believe
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 04:24 PM
Dec 2018

donnie is a freaking disgusting degenerate - both personally and professionally - but there has NEVER been a whiff of scandal involving either liquor or drugs. He's famously against both.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
62. However he has a very addictive personality and it would not surprise me at all if he had
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 05:09 PM
Dec 2018

a hidden prescription drug problem. Like he does with everything else, he has probably convinced himself that because he got it from a "doctor" that it's perfectly fine and therefore he's not a low-life druggie. Also, he is a flaming liar. I wouldn't trust anything he said about his own habits. The symptoms he exhibits are right in line with those of a speed freak.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
90. Agree with what you're saying
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 08:27 AM
Dec 2018

He does exhibit many symptoms of an addictive personality but that doesn't always translate into drugs or alcohol. But you bring up another good point - he finds excuses for everything he does so if he was given drugs by a doctor, he would never see himself as a "lowlife" addict. I'd have to learn more, much more, before I would repeat this story.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
91. It's been since his brother died
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 08:28 AM
Dec 2018

an alcoholic. MANY drug dealers don't do drugs themselves, they're only looking for the money.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
55. Why is he obese?
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 04:42 PM
Dec 2018

And he seems to be gaining weight around his hips and thighs since he became President.

What is going on with his health?

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
61. His diet is awful
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 04:57 PM
Dec 2018

But most addicts have awful diets. They don't like to eat very much though.

Is he forcing himself to eat? Has he completely fucked up his endocrine system? Questions, questions.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
63. Also, he doesn't move.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 05:11 PM
Dec 2018

I have known of obese or very hefty drug addicts. They don't all look like strung out rock-stars.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
67. that would explain a lot
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 06:27 PM
Dec 2018

not all, mind you--his bedrock "issues" are just that--but a lot nevertheless

elocs

(22,568 posts)
69. We can suspect a lot, but can't prove anything without a drug test or tests
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 06:30 PM
Dec 2018

and that just ain't going to happen.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
74. Side effects include heart problems, seizures, aggression, paranoia, and psychosis.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 12:14 AM
Dec 2018

That would explain a lot.

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
82. Sniffy McSniffleface
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:59 AM
Dec 2018

That guy could hoover up a bag of cement with his nostrils. I'm sure it's more than just adderal.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
89. I know an Adderol addict - and he's EXACTLY like Trump
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:05 AM
Dec 2018

I worked with a young fellow - who is/was an extremely talented country music singer and guitar player.

Sings like an angel

I'd probably be on tour somewhere in the USA if this douchebag wasn't an Adderol junkie.

I've been working with him since he was a teenager - so I've watched the whole thing.

He is the best - and not afraid to tell you.

He is better than everyone else

He's always right

Everyone else sucks


Trust me - that attitude won't get you very far in the music biz. He was a flaming failure.

I'll never forget, before one our biggest theater shows - we're getting ready to hit the stage - and he goes back to the green room crushes a pill - snorts it - and heads for the stage...hate to say - that was the best show we ever did!

But - it was pretty much downhill from there - now he's a broken moron who posts videos of him playing guitar and singing in his bathroom.

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