I am in FB jail.

[idahoblue]

I was in jail for one day for a post someone found offensive. I don’t know what or who. Now I am jailed for 3 days. I have been very careful about naughty words or perceived threats so I have no idea who is doing this or what they reported.

I have an alternative account I have been using, now I was warned about saying “white trash”. 🙄

[Siwsan]

1. In 2016, I reported numerous offensive statements and down right threats with NOTHING done!

And I'm talking vicious threats and really bad racist and sexist stuff from a stream of trolls on a political site I joined. Every time the response came back that they found nothing actionable in the posts I forwarded.

[vlyons]

2. you just have to find alternative phrase for "white trash"

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

5. Caucasian garbage n/t

[vlyons]

17. It's the reference to race, not trash

that FB is bothered about. I would say something like "poorly educated racists"

[guillaumeb]

53. As opposed to highly educated racists?

Amazing how different sites have quite different standards of acceptable speech.

[UpInArms]

6. Swygart

Is my word ... long story

[HAB911]

8. I changed to Orange Trash

That seems to be ok, go figure

[pintobean]

14. Your sig line is ironic

[samnsara]

57. pwt works

[Rincewind]

61. I have an alternative

phrase for "white trash", it's "my cousins".

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

3. I just recently deleted my Facebook account

It is big time suck for me plus I get upset over the comments people post. I've tried paring down friend lists, blocking people. Doesn't matter... There's always someone new to aggravate me on there. It's always friends of friends. I recently discovered you can use messenger without a Facebook account, so I do that instead now. It allows me to text people who have Facebook accounts without having the temptation of the newsfeed.

[Charlotte Little]

25. Me too

FB needs to be destroyed, IMO. They did this country no favors.

[Rorey]

32. I have an account, but I'm sure people are sorely disappointed in me

I only started because we were having a family reunion years ago, and it was the way we communicated to get it organized. Then all of these people started asking me to be their friend. At first I accepted requests, and then I started just ignoring them. I've only stayed on in order to see photos of some of the cutest kids in the world.

Anyway, I post practically nothing. I am not an active participant. It works well for me that way.

[Different Drummer]

54. I started out being active on there, but that's changed.

I can't stand to be on there for any length of time because of all the right-wing nonsense. Every time I think I've unfollowed enough people so that I won't see it, more of it creeps in. These days, I very rarely post anything and mainly go on to acknowledge birthdays and then get off as soon as possible.

[Autumn]

4. I use the F bomb a lot but I'm curious. Why do you need to use the term "white trash"?

There are a lot of poor white people who vote for Democrats.

[HAB911]

9. But.........

they are not trash, just white, and poor

I should add that trash is NOT synonymous with poor

[Autumn]

10. I was curious so I looked it up. White trash is poor white people,

especially those living in the southern US.

white trash
wīt ˈtraSH/
nounINFORMAL•DEROGATORY
poor white people, especially those living in the southern US.

[HAB911]

13. Yeah,

The label signifies lower social class inside the white population and especially a degraded standard of living. The term has been adopted for people living on the fringes of the social order, who are seen as dangerous because they may be criminal, unpredictable, and without respect for political, legal, or moral authority. The term is usually a racial slur, but may also be used self-referentially by working class whites to jokingly describe their origins or lifestyle

That's fine but from Wiki, white trash to me "The term has been adopted for people living on the fringes of the social order, who are seen as dangerous because they may be criminal, unpredictable, and without respect for political, legal, or moral authority"

Meaning the Trumps

[pintobean]

18. A thread bragging about bigotry

[HAB911]

33. hmmmm

Last edited Fri Dec 14, 2018, 11:17 AM - Edit history (1)

must have missed the bragging part

not to mention bigotry

[pintobean]

48. Not surprised.

[Rorey]

34. I've never used it in that way

But I've decided that I'm not going to use the term at all anymore.

I was very poor in my younger life, but I was never trash. The core me has always been of great quality. I just wear better clothes now and live in a nicer place and drive a nicer car. My bank account never determined what kind of person I was.

Edited to add: I can also afford to eat regular meals now.

[Hortensis]

49. Right. I agree that trash people are not defined by

their wealth but by trashy characters and behaviors. I've known many who were hopelessly outclassed by their scented hand soap and fake-bamboo place mats, or whatever the equivalents have been.

[PatSeg]

11. Yes

I've known people who were well off that I would consider white trash. Some of them live in the White House right now.

[bdamomma]

12. for sure.

nt

[HAB911]

15. +++++++++++

[Charlotte Little]

26. Correct

Folks, white trash does not mean poor white people even if Wikipedia insists it does.

Take it from a southerner. Poor white people call other racist, nasty white people white trash. White trash has a very specific meaning - especially now with Trump in office. We're witnessing white-trashery on a daily basis from his Twitter feed and in how his administration is treating POC.

[Autumn]

56. What about definitions from the Oxford Dictionary, Dictionary com or Merriam- Webster?

It's not just Wikipedia that says white trash means poor white people. Every dictionary I've looked at says white trash is derogatory, disparaging and offensive against poor white people.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/white-trash
white trash
ExamplesWord Origin
See more synonyms for white trash on Thesaurus.com
noun Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.
a member of the class of poor whites, especially in the southern U.S.
poor whites collectively.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/white%20trash?src=search-dict-hed
white trash noun, plural in construction
Definition of white trash
usually disparaging + offensive
: a member of an inferior or underprivileged white social group
First Known Use of white trash
1821, in the meaning defined above

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/white_trash
Definition of white trash in English:
white trash
NOUN
mass noun
North American
derogatory, informal
Poor white people, especially those living in the southern US.

[Charlotte Little]

59. I don't know

You tell me.

https://newrepublic.com/article/122117/why-are-white-racists-always-called-white-trash

[haele]

22. Most white trash I know are fairly well off - typically above median income.

However, they're the type that keeps throwing the good money after disposable fun in the name of being "bad assed" or "edgy". They quit jobs rather than make the best of what they have and keep an eye out for better opportunities. They stay in bad situations if they're able to build their own little kingdoms, even if those kingdoms consist of sand castles and wishful thinking.

Which typically ends up with them reaching the age of 35 or 40 with very little in the bank, lots of bills and a bleak future that hurts their sense of entitlement and pride.
And then they turn around and blame their frustrations on others who never had the chances they did to improve their lives, and are struggling on scraps to begin with. Everyone else is to blame.

These white trash types just have a different view, albeit rather selfishly short-sighted, of what matters in life. They aren't "poor" folks by circumstances, they're almost always poor folks by choice.

Haele

[Autumn]

40. I don't know a soul who calls themselves white trash. I do however know a lot of people

White, Hispanic and Black ages 35 to 40 with very little in the bank, lots of bills and a bleak future because they work at dead end jobs that don't pay a living wage. Choice my ass.

[MountCleaners]

42. I've known some people who ironically call themselves "white trash"...

...but they don't mean it seriously - they mean that someone else called them that. Many of the POC I know are offended by the term, and they are right: it implies that poverty is for POC, and that being poor and white is anomalous in some way. It kind of implies that everyone poor is trash.

People can equivocate all they want, but the term has racist and classist roots. It is used interchangeably with "trailer trash". I come from a working-class community, and when I went to an elite college, a lot of the white students there threw the term around freely.

It is true that there is a certain type of white person that is loutish and has no personal style or manners, and those people can be seen often at Trump rallies. Ugly clothes, ugly signs, ugly bumper stickers on their ugly pickup trucks, etc. And ugly attitudes and defiant illiteracy go with that. But I don't think these people are poor. IME these people look down on poor people. I think they are "trashy", uneducated people who have found a way to make a middle-class living - probably in careers where that isn't looked down upon. Small businesses, skilled labor, etc. I've encountered many of them, and to them there certainly is such a thing as "white trash", and it's not them. Even though "liberal" snobs in the corporate world would certainly call them that for their guns-and-pickups lifestyle and their ugly hairstyles and clothes.

Those trucks they drive can get pretty expensive. And being acquainted with a lot of Trump-humpers, they like to brag about how much money they have and the vacations they take.

[Autumn]

43. Everyone I know who supports Trump is either well off or retired and not in need and

they aren't all White. After reading this thread I think it's a bigoted term.

[violetpastille]

52. +1

Many of the POC I know are offended by the term, and they are right: it implies that poverty is for POC, and that being poor and white is anomalous in some way. It kind of implies that everyone poor is trash.

Or that trashy behavior is default for non-whites. White people are supposed to be "better than" the implied trashiness of POC.
Hence the construct "white trash".

It comes out of the same ugly side of white culture that would call the Clintons n*****lovers.

[haele]

58. And those are not the people I was talking about.

It is subjective, but I'll bet you know people who have opportunities, but still choose to trash not only their own lives and futures, but the lives and futures of everyone around them simply because life hasn't lived up to their expectations.
They're the ones who live in trash, and demean others so they can feel they're better than the rest of us. These are people who see others as disposable.
Not the poor who are stuck in dead-end jobs they could rise out of if only they had a small portion of the opportunities those "above" them had.

I think we're talking across each other. And sometimes, one does have to judge - how much respect are you giving Erik and Jr. based on their actions?
Whether or not one would call them out on their cheating, distructive, disrespectful behavior at a high level or low level, I know I still couldn't give them any more respect than I would give just because they were living beings. Their own actions - not their situations - paint them as creatures I would hesitate to offer anything of value to if I saw they might have a need.
I've seen far more considerate and thoughtful people with signs begging at highway offramps than those two. And I've never, ever considered a begger trash. That's hard work, surviving by begging out in the elements.

Haele

[HAB911]

7. LOL! Me too! Same two words.

I think it must be an algorithm. I didn't go to jail but the post was disappeared. TOO FUNNY

[evehimme]

65. I got 7 day suspension from Twitter for this!

"Twitter

Hello,

Thank you for your patience as we reviewed your appeal request for account, @___________, regarding the following:

Wish I could be as shitty as Lauren Boebert is at my job, but I'd get fired and blacklisted just like every other "real American" not protected (aka excused) by nefariousness the way elected "officials" are. Trash is trash. White trash is white trash. Call it out, folks! JEEZ!

Violating our rules against hateful conduct

Our support team has determined that a violation did take place, and therefore we will not overturn our decision.

You will not be able to access Twitter through your account due to violations of the Twitter Rules, specifically our rules around:
Violating our rules against hateful conduct

In order to restore account functionality, you can resolve the violations by logging into your account and completing the on-screen instructions.

Thanks,
Twitter"

SEVEN DAYS IS THE MAXIMUM SUSPENSION. Repugnicans write, speak and promote MUCH WORSE before breakfast, and the rules are not the same for them. Sucks.

[The Magistrate]

66. Welcome To The Forum, Sir

[marble falls]

67. Kick Twitter. Who realy wants their news in 450 charactors or whatever.

[Claritie Pixie]

19. I want FB to die and Zuckerberg to lose a lot of money.

Maybe it's a blessing in disguise you're in jail for three days. Long enough to kick the habit.

[LakeSuperiorView]

20. When I started typing white trash into google, this is the first relevent suggestion

https://www.geniuskitchen.com/recipe/alton-browns-white-trash-226723

[ProudLib72]

23. That looks really good!

Ultimately very bad for you, but still so tempting.

[Adsos Letter]

29. I didn't realize they still made Bugles.

Haven't had one since I was a young'un.

[Rorey]

37. That's what I was going to say

I guess I liked them at one point, and then didn't have them in forever. Then I got a box and they ended up getting thrown away. Disgusting. jmo

[HipChick]

21. Had a friend that went to FB jail...

For posting Trump on the shitter....

[Charlotte Little]

24. I got temporarily suspended from Twitter for using "white trash"

They also didn't like that I used the word "Nazi" and "racist" in the same tweet. So, they added that to the other tweet using "white trash" as a reason for my suspension.

I appealed and told them that white trash is referring to white people who are willfully ignorant and racist and that Nazi's are, in fact, racists. White trash does not refer to poor white people. In fact, I've called Trump white trash numerous times and he's not poor. I have been poor in my life and I've never been white trash. I grew up in the south and the KKK were considered white trash at the time. It is not a racist slur toward the white race (so fucking stupid to even pretend it is.) Twitter did not comment back or explain what rule covers the rights of white trash Nazi racists.

So, for some reason, Twitter/FB are now cracking down on it. I think it's because the racist white trash Nazi P.O.S MFs in this country have been screaming about how not fair it is that they get "picked on" for being racist white trash Nazi P.O.S. MFs. And apparently, they are now a protected group.

So, a white woman originally from the south, originally from a very religious family, one who's been poor in her life, one who's eaten Cheese Whiz on Ritz Crackers and consumed her share of Bud Light, is now not allowed to use the term "white trash" on social media because that just might offend white trash.

This country just keeps getting more stupid by the minute.

[Blue Owl]

27. Is your cell mate a Russian bot?

n/t

[left-of-center2012]

28. I reported child porn and nothing happened

A photo of an adult male and boy of about 11.

I complained several times over a week and the photo remained.

I gave up and just blocked the poster.

[Adsos Letter]

30. I've been reporting obvious trolls for months.

Poorly written English #walkaway, Split California, etc. types.

Only two were dealt with.

They don't care.

[Croney]

31. White trash is a racist term.

It implies that trashy people are by definition non-white, but there are exceptions so we add the "white" qualifier to say that these people are trash EVEN THOUGH they are white.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

35. THIS.

It's a slur because it means "white people acting like POC."

[Charlotte Little]

38. No

It does not. It means white people who are ignorant and racist. It's used as a way to socially shame bullies and those who willfully ignore rules and facts. It really sums up Trump and his family. It is not a racial slur in the least. It's a derogatory term but not a racist one. Sometimes, white isn't even used, just trash. But you know what one means when using trash to describe a MAGA in your face.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

45. I encourage you to read up on the term.

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/30/633891473/why-its-time-to-retire-the-disparaging-term-white-trash

[Charlotte Little]

46. I'd rather just go from experience

The folks in my family who are considered white trash...by the rest of my family...drive around with confederate flags on their pick-up trucks.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

47. So is it the racism that makes them "trashy," or something else?

Because racism is not limited to people who don't have a lot of money, drive pickups or are uneducated.

[Charlotte Little]

50. The racism

Neither one of my cousins are poor. They have jobs, wives, children. They are Christians. They pay their bills and their taxes. They live in modest homes in Mississippi.

They also drive pickup trucks with confederate flags. The trucks are nice and I'm sure they make the payments on time. But the flags? Trashy. And their pride to have them on their trucks? Trashy.

They also still refer to people of color as "colored boys" or "colored girls," something they picked up from their parents who picked it up from their parents. Trashy. After my grandmother's funeral in 2013, I watched them smoke and drink beer - both fine - all while talking smack about Obama. And by smack, I mean "let your imagination fill in the blanks here."

They think they are superior to POC. Trashy. They think men are superior to women. Trashy.

They voted for Trump (I know because they were on my FB family list...until I blocked them) and I'm fairly certain they still support him, although I don't know for sure as I haven't seen them in well over two years. But they did vote for him. Trashy.

They are white. I'm white. They are trash in my mind, but not because they act in a certain way that isn't considered sophisticated. Not because they hunt deer. Not even because they watch Fox News and sit around like a bunch of rednecks (which they are, nothing wrong with that).

They are white trash, because I know in private they don't just call POC "colored boys" and "colored girls" - which is a way to put them in their place in their minds and totally unacceptable - they call POC the word I won't use on here or anywhere. I also know personally how at least one of them treats his wife all while be a hypocritical Christian. Trashy.

They are an embarrassment to me because they are white trash in my family. And I'm no perfect peach myself. But I am not anything like them once you get past my sentence about making car payments on time. So, my trashy is not that kind of trashy, if you get my meaning.

And to be clear, Trump is white trash because he is:

- willfully ignorant
- hypocritical
- racist (I'd argue a full blown white supremacist)
- vicious
- cruel (especially to POC/women/children)
- misogynistic
- sexually perverted
- a con man and sleaze
- a bully
- and a fucking traitor to this great nation

So, you are correct, WG. Racism is not limited to people who don't have a lot of money, drive pickups, or who are uneducated.

[Croney]

39. Exactly. You never hear the term black trash.

That would be undeniably racist. Like its white counterpart.

[Charlotte Little]

60. Um

In case you aren't aware, there is a term used for black Americans. And it's used most by the white trash in this country.

[Rorey]

36. That makes me sad

But I can't say that you're wrong when it comes to how some people use the term.

As I said above, I'm not going to use that term again. It's been a long time since I've said those words, and they were careless and mindless and unnecessary.

[backscatter712]

64. I'll switch to the phrase "Trump Trash".

Even though that phrase is being redundant. I'm sorry, but if you still support Trump after all the shit he's pulled, you are fucking trash.

This way, we can be inclusive of the dozen or so black shitwits in the US that are dumb enough to support someone that's taking a steaming diarrhea on their civil rights.

[marble falls]

68. It may be racist, depends on who's saying it. What it is is classist and bigoted ...

... just by it's use.

Now if my grandmother used it, she was speaking specifically about someone down the lane who sold 'shine; well that would be different.

[RockaFowler]

41. I use Yiddish words a lot

Sometimes I may even sprinkle in some French words. No-one knows if I'm swearing or not!! LOL

[Greybnk48]

44. Pfft! I usually get 30 days at a clip!

The last time I was defending Michelle Obama against Tomi Lahren. I called Lahren "white trash" who was not fit to discuss Michelle Obama, and boom! 30 days!

Of course, that was the second time I've gotten 30 days right before an election so I suspect that was because I post favorably about Democratic candidates as well. I rip on Trumpy too!

Purge your friends list and careful where you comment and to who.

[Eyeball_Kid]

51. It's a crap shoot.

I was once reprimanded at a blog for posting that Trumpy gave US secrets away to Russians, the data from which was confiscated by the FBI before the Russians got on the plane to leave the country. I won't tell you which blog.

Now, at the time of my posting the alleged event, the whole idea the Trumpy would give away secrets to Russians seemed, well, extreme. But now we know that it's well within the parameters of Trumpy's behavior to do just such a thing. And we have yet to find out how evil Trumpy really is.

[PJMcK]

55. Quit Facebook

It’s a waste of your valuable time.

[dembotoz]

62. Cost of doing business

Do try to figure out who is alerting on you
Alerts are a wonderful way for folks to be an asshole and be proud of it at the same time.
Facebook can be a mine field and if some smuck can get u banned for a month they win

[backscatter712]

63. I got banhammered by a blog for "advocating violence"

I used a turn of phrase something like "I'm looking forward to watching the Democrats curbstomp the GOP in the House" around election time.

Apparently, the junior high school hall monitors this blog uses as moderators can't grasp the concept of a metaphor.