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hexola

(4,835 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:33 AM Dec 2018

Citizens Arrest! Citizens Arrest!

I think that's a Gomer Pyle thing...

Brooklyn Woman Arrested After Videos Of Racist Attack On Train Emerge

New York Police Department officers arrested a 40-year-old woman Thursday after videos emerged of her kicking and hitting a woman with an umbrella while calling her by an anti-Asian slur during a morning ride on the D train in Brooklyn.

Police said Anna Lushchinskaya was charged with felony assault after the racist and violent attack Tuesday morning, according to police.

In another video, shared by Twitter user @BlipintheCosmos, Ayala can be seen confronting Lushchinkskaya up close with his camera phone. She calls him a “Muslim,” and he replies, “I’m Dominican.”

As Ayala continues filming Lushchinkskaya, she pulls off his earphones and smacks his phone to the floor. Ayala then pulls the woman down to the floor and detains her.

Ayala later tweeted a photo of police arresting Lushchinkskaya.

“She tried me so I had to detain her until the cops showed up,” he wrote.


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Citizens Arrest! Citizens Arrest! (Original Post) hexola Dec 2018 OP
Good for him Dorian Gray Dec 2018 #1
Just saw video on CNN malaise Dec 2018 #2
Here's a video (language warning)the guy that detained her took, something seriously wrong with her. PunkinPi Dec 2018 #3
Good thing I wasnt there. Makes me so angry. I would have thrown her to the ground to stop it. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2018 #11
Her Preparations Were VERY Deliberate ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #4
What was that anti-Asian slur she said? NT Eric J in MN Dec 2018 #5
There's other videos of the incident and you can hear her call either the guy who was Solomon Dec 2018 #6
Thanks. NT Eric J in MN Dec 2018 #7
Another good reason for gun control. nt zanana1 Dec 2018 #8
Here's the run-up to the arrest: Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #9
I don't know - he seems to be provoking her a bit hexola Dec 2018 #12
Well, provoking, or standing up to her. Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #15
Confident man to know he could do this. Equinox Moon Dec 2018 #10
And here's a fuller version of the whole incident: Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #13
A lot of these people must ride the train together all the time? hexola Dec 2018 #14
She allegedly has history. Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #16
Anna Lushchinskaya Has A History Of Alleged Subway Assaults dalton99a Dec 2018 #22
Yeah. Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #23
Why do you think that ? lunasun Dec 2018 #21
More background here: Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #17
Yeah - he called her a bitch and made an anti-muslim remark hexola Dec 2018 #18
Huh? He didn't make an anti-Muslim remark. She called him "Muhammed Atta". Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #19
IMO. It was a heroic thing . More people like this are needed to standup and should be applauded lunasun Dec 2018 #20
Another possible chief of staff pick They_Live Dec 2018 #24

Dorian Gray

(13,490 posts)
1. Good for him
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:35 AM
Dec 2018

That woman has some mental issues and anger going on. To be that provocative on a train.... in front of a bunch of people... is not normal.

I hope the cops charge her. If she needs mental health help, she gets it. And she learns that being a racist POS (not related to mental health issues) won't help her in this world, this city, or this life.

PunkinPi

(4,875 posts)
3. Here's a video (language warning)the guy that detained her took, something seriously wrong with her.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 07:50 AM
Dec 2018


(photos of him detaining her 2 posts down, couldn't get to embedded properly).

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
11. Good thing I wasnt there. Makes me so angry. I would have thrown her to the ground to stop it.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:13 AM
Dec 2018

She was using a weapon (furled umbrella).

She struck the first blow and then claimed she was only defending herself when she attacked again and again.

ProfessorGAC

(64,990 posts)
4. Her Preparations Were VERY Deliberate
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 08:03 AM
Dec 2018

Took off the gloves, pulled her hair back, took her time getting the umbrella, and then just started hitting.

Then she tells the other guy to not touch her? Really?

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
6. There's other videos of the incident and you can hear her call either the guy who was
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 08:55 AM
Dec 2018

trying to stop her or the woman she was attacking a "chink".

Denzil_DC

(7,230 posts)
9. Here's the run-up to the arrest:
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:09 AM
Dec 2018



Includes some spitting, a few more "fuck offs"s, an attempted Muslim slur, phone swiping, then a swift takedown.
 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
12. I don't know - he seems to be provoking her a bit
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:13 AM
Dec 2018

I was wondering about this part...but I guess the whole thing that preceded this part sets the stage.

Denzil_DC

(7,230 posts)
15. Well, provoking, or standing up to her.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:17 AM
Dec 2018

He is a lot bigger than she is. She picked the wrong fight. She'd been lashing out for a while without anyone retaliating. Flipping his phone out of his hand was apparently the last straw.

Denzil_DC

(7,230 posts)
13. And here's a fuller version of the whole incident:
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:15 AM
Dec 2018



Others on that Twitter thread say the same woman was charged for pepper spraying someone on the train last June.

Sounds like she has serious issues and should avoid mass transit, or people in general.
 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
14. A lot of these people must ride the train together all the time?
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:16 AM
Dec 2018

Might be some ongoing problem here - I doubt she was stranger to the people on that train.

Denzil_DC

(7,230 posts)
16. She allegedly has history.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:20 AM
Dec 2018

Word is she was charged for pepper spraying someone last June.

I'd rather my morning commute wasn't shared with her, that's for sure. Maybe she'll be banned from the train after this, whatever other consequences she faces? Maybe she'll get help. Looks like she needs it.

I'll save my sympathy for the woman she kicked repeatedly, belted with her umbrella, and insulted, and who didn't retaliate. There was no provocation visible in the earlier part of the videos.

dalton99a

(81,442 posts)
22. Anna Lushchinskaya Has A History Of Alleged Subway Assaults
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 11:03 AM
Dec 2018
http://gothamist.com/2018/12/14/serial_subway_sally.php

The Brooklyn woman who was arrested on Tuesday morning for hitting, spitting, and using racial slurs against her fellow passengers on a D train to Manhattan was arrested in June for assaulting passengers in a Sunset Park train station, and allegedly punched another subway rider on Monday of this week.

According to an NYPD spokesperson, 40-year-old Anna Lushchinskaya was arrested on June 28th in the 36th Street D/N/R subway station in Sunset Park after allegedly spraying a substance into two people's faces: "As the D train arrives in the station [Lushchinskaya] walks by the victim and discharged the substance in the victims' faces, causing burning and irritation." Lushchinskaya was charged with two counts of misdemeanor assault.

Another alleged victim, who asked not to be named out of fear of being attacked again, said she had exited the R train at the 4th Avenue/9th Street station this past Monday morning, and was transferring to the F when she walked by a woman she now says was 40-year-old Anna Lushchinskaya.

"As I was passing her she stuck her arm out and like, side punched me with her keys in her knuckles," the passenger said. "I stumbled, caught myself, kept walking and turned around because she was screaming at me to leave her alone. She called me a 'psycho bitch,' and I still had my headphones on so I couldn’t completely catch what she said because I was so taken off guard."

The rider admits that she "got in her face a little," and took the photo above, when "a man and woman kind of grabbed me and they were like, leave her she’s not worth it."

When she got out of the train station at Carroll Street, the passenger said she told transit police "through tears" what had happened. "They told me because I didn’t know who she was they couldn’t do anything and if I were to file a complaint it was be harassment not assault," she said, adding that she emailed the transit police on Wednesday night but has not yet received a response.

After Wednesday's incident, in which Lushchinskaya is seen on video hitting a woman with her umbrella and keys, and calling her a "fucking c*ink," she was was charged with menacing, criminal possession of a weapon, attempted assault, and harassment, all misdemeanors, according to a criminal complaint from the Brooklyn DA's office.

Susan Morris, Lushchinskaya's Legal Aid attorney, declined to comment.

Lushchinskaya's next court date is set for January 22.

Denzil_DC

(7,230 posts)
23. Yeah.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 11:41 AM
Dec 2018

The woman assaulted repeatedly in the OP story, Michelle Tung, sounds like she didn't want the media attention, so she might not have reported the incident.

If Lushchinskaya had left the train and gone on her way, even if Tung had reported it to transit police, the result might have been the same as in one of the incidents in your quote above: "They told me because I didn’t know who she was they couldn’t do anything and if I were to file a complaint it was be harassment not assault".

I suspect - with no evidence, obviously - there have been other unreported incidents involving Lushchinskaya. I've no idea why she hadn't been banned from riding the train earlier. That may stop now.

Denzil_DC

(7,230 posts)
17. More background here:
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:37 AM
Dec 2018
Many called Platano Man a hero but Michelle Tung doesn’t quite see eye to eye with what Platano did. She first described herself as “very lucky” and “grateful” to have commuters help her out, reports “Daily News.”

“I’m lucky that she didn’t have anything like weapons on her — like knife, gun — because it could have got a lot worse,” she told ABC 7 NY. “I’m lucky that people were on the train who were helping me, especially the first Asian guy who stood in front of me right away because he wasn’t recording. He just stood in front of me to help me, because I know other people were recording, but their recording didn’t do anything until later on when it escalated.”

...

Still, she fears the attention from the incident and that’s why she chooses not to show her face. Furthermore, she told the Daily Mail she believes Juan Ayala posted the video for the “wrong reasons.”

...

The police thanked Juan Ayala but Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams criticized the “jokester”. “This bystander intervention began with good intentions but ended dangerously. Escalation is not a good idea,” he said.

https://hopclear.com/the-woman-who-went-berserk-on-a-new-york-train-has-been-identified-as-anna-lushchinskaya/


On the other hand, if Ayala hadn't intervened, it looks like Lushchinskaya might have just exited the train, and maybe done something similar again. This woman didn't need much escalating.

She's an attorney - for now, anyway.
 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
18. Yeah - he called her a bitch and made an anti-muslim remark
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:53 AM
Dec 2018

That guy was not helping - "Whats that some Muslim shit - I ate a bacon and egg sandwich today!"

Denzil_DC

(7,230 posts)
19. Huh? He didn't make an anti-Muslim remark. She called him "Muhammed Atta".
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 10:11 AM
Dec 2018

He's not Muslim, and if you read elsewhere, he went through 9/11 in his youth, so that's some pretty provocative shit right there, on top of the earlier racial slurs.

If Ayala hadn't intervened, it doesn't sound like Tung would have made a complaint about an incident where she ended up with lacerations to her hand, and was lucky not to have suffered worse since Lushchinskaya was swinging a heavy bunch of keys at one point. That umbrella alone was capable of doing some serious harm, not to mention the vicious repeated kicking.

So, given Lushchinskaya has previous, a similar incident would probably have happened on another day, and maybe turned out worse for all concerned. For all we know, there may be other incidents involving her that never got reported.

There's difference between "not escalating" and letting stuff pass. If I was traveling that route regularly, I'd be glad he did intervene.

The counter-argument Eric Adams put forward might be that she could have been carrying a gun. It looks like that may not be an option for her in future.

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