Money laundering will bring Trump down

[Cyrano]

Real estate is perhaps the biggest and best way to launder millions, if not billions of dollars. Deutsche Bank is currently under investigation for money laundering.

And Deutsche Bank is Trump's biggest lender since American banks won't lend him a dime. Deutsche Bank also happens to be the bank of choice for Russian oligarchs.

Given all of Trump's real estate dealings over the years with Russian oligarchs in the U.S. and elsewhere, it doesn't seem too difficult to connect the dots.

I don't have any documents, or bank records, or proof that Trump is a world class money launderer for Russians. But I'm virtually certain that Mueller has all the proof that's needed.

Money laundering isn't paying off a couple of women a few thousand dollars to keep quiet. It's a crime that, on a large scale, can send someone away for life.

And I believe it is money laundering that will crush Trump and his criminal empire

[Mme. Defarge]

1. Moi aussi.

[genxlib]

2. I have always thought this

He could have lived the rest of his life without opening himself up to this kind of scrutiny.

It remains to be seen whether it was ego or coercion that caused him to put himself in jeopardy by entering politics.

[Maeve]

4. Probably not either/or but both

He convinced himself he could get away with it and then got in too deep. Of course, he was in over his head from the get-go, as Putin was aware.

[ScratchCat]

6. I've said too

Imagine all of the people who are becoming convicted felons who would not be, had Donald Trump never run for President. Cohen, Manaforte, Flynn, Gates, Popadoc.... and on and on... there lives are ruined because Donald Trump ran for President.

[ScratchCat]

3. This is the way it goes

In most cases:

Once you open a bank account for a "fake LLC" that is not what you told the bank it is, you have committed bank fraud.

Once you deposit money into that account and transfer it to another account, you have committed money laundering.

These crimes are easy to prove.

Trump and his businesses have undoubtedly done this dozens of times(if not more).

So, if you create "JoBlow, LLC." and go to a bank and tell them its a "consulting firm", and you need to create an account - but its really a slush fund pass-through where you will transfer money to women in return for their silence - once you have opened the account, deposited money and transferred it, you are guilty of bank fraud and money laundering. This doesn't even address tax issues, both federal and State. If you reported money paid to that LLC as "consulting fees", a business expense, you have committed tax fraud as well.

Again, these are some of the easiest charges for a prosecutor to prove because they are all financial in nature with a factual paper trail.

[Wellstone ruled]

5. I want the Feds to

go into court and take every damn nickel of Trump's so called Real Estate Assets and any associated business's .

[Hoyt]

7. It would bring almost any citizen down, but not so sure about a sitting Prez.

Congress will do nothing. A House investigation will take forever, and Senate will not convict.

Don't believe one can impanel a jury that will convict trump on something that will be presented as a "political witch hunt."

Now, that might take down his kids, ruin the "trump organization" financially, prevent trump from running in 2020, etc. At this point, I'm fine with that. But don't expect to see him behind bars.

[Cyrano]

9. Hopefully, all of his assets can be frozen as

proceeds from a criminal enterprise. That should leave him pretty close to broke.

And as far as him picking up where he left off when he leaves the White House, I'm certain that everything he does will be carefully monitored. He won't be able to use his golden toilet in Trump Tower without the feds knowing about it.

My guess is he'll spend the rest of his life living on handouts from rich "friends" whom he can probably blackmail for one reason or another.

Given his lifetime of running scams, it's all he knows how to do. Sooo, when he is no longer president, and picks up his old habits, how long before he's facing the possibility of real jail time?

[underpants]

8. It was always going to end up there.

Once I saw "Cypress" appear in a news story that cemented it. Dealing with and marketing to (Cohen) Russian midlevel oligarchs/mafia makes it all the more obvious.

The media is fixated on collusion (conspiracy) and the right has made it binary NO COLLUSION while ignoring the obstruction and the 400 pound fat guy sitting in the room - follow the money.