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**Maria Butina claims she had a signed cooperation agreement w/the NRA! (Original Post) Roland99 Dec 2018 OP
OK. I'm going to say something a little out of left field here. shanny Dec 2018 #1
I read earlier (but didn't have time to verify) that RT was posting articles supporting her Roland99 Dec 2018 #4
That sounds very, very likely. shanny Dec 2018 #8
It seems that Plan A was to get sanctions lifted; failing that, throw them under the bus flibbitygiblets Dec 2018 #9
+1 nt shanny Dec 2018 #19
Then again... PeeJ52 Dec 2018 #10
"Both parties have had ample chances to fix Citizens United?" Huh? Merlot Dec 2018 #12
I'm calling Bullshit. GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #13
I'm calling double bullshit..... 'both parties' have NOT had a chance to fix Citizens United groundloop Dec 2018 #17
Why are you yelling at me? I just made the same point. GulfCoast66 Dec 2018 #20
I like this way of thinking of this horror. fierywoman Dec 2018 #6
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 2018 #2
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2018 #3
Kick and Rec Hekate Dec 2018 #5
Full story at MotherJones UpInArms Dec 2018 #7
Malcom Nance said that Russia does this all the time. BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #11
I've wondered... duforsure Dec 2018 #14
Maybe in coordination with Erickson ? OnDoutside Dec 2018 #18
NRA Oldtimeralso Dec 2018 #15
How I'd love to see... SergeStorms Dec 2018 #16
 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
1. OK. I'm going to say something a little out of left field here.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 05:08 PM
Dec 2018

When all is said and done, it may be seen that pooty-poot and the oligarchs have done us a favor: all their interference and r@tfcking may just sink tRump and his putrid family, the NRA and the GoPee...in one fell swoop. Maybe the backlash will even topple our oligarchs and wannabees. Maybe some much needed reforms will be pushed through. Certainly a lot of people are sitting up and taking notice and perhaps the downward trajectory we have been on since (in my view) the late 60s is about to reverse course. Maybe.

Assuming we pull through this (still a big "if" imo) the Republic may emerge stronger than before and WAY cleaner.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
4. I read earlier (but didn't have time to verify) that RT was posting articles supporting her
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 05:14 PM
Dec 2018

I’ve had a gut feel she was the poison pill / delayed release political bomb that would burn the GOP/NRA/Trump bridges if sanctions were not lifted

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
8. That sounds very, very likely.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 05:25 PM
Dec 2018

I have said all along that there is no way Putin would welcome tRump et al / give them asylum etc. if everything goes pearshaped on this side--he's a tool, not a friend or ally--but it makes even more sense that punishment would be meted out as well. And if the sole purpose was to weaken, disrupt and distract...it's a double feature.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
9. It seems that Plan A was to get sanctions lifted; failing that, throw them under the bus
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 05:47 PM
Dec 2018

Because Chaos was always Plan B. What was it that Khruschev who said "we will destroy you from within"?

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
10. Then again...
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 05:51 PM
Dec 2018

Perhaps only a few little guys will take the fall and it will continue on business as usual. Both parties have had ample chances to fix Citizens United yet they refuse. I think they like the money in politics. I think now they may like foreign money in politics even more. This new Congress will tell us a lot. If we see our rising young stars drifting to the dark side too, we can hang it up...

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
13. I'm calling Bullshit.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:55 PM
Dec 2018

Please explain how the Democratic Party has ample chances to fix citizens united?

groundloop

(11,517 posts)
17. I'm calling double bullshit..... 'both parties' have NOT had a chance to fix Citizens United
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 07:25 PM
Dec 2018

The Democratic party would have needed to have been in control of both the Senate and House as well as the White House, we're still waiting for that opportunity.

BOTH parties are NOT the same, quit pushing that lame talking point.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
20. Why are you yelling at me? I just made the same point.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 09:17 PM
Dec 2018

This both parties are the same bullshit has no place on DU.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
11. Malcom Nance said that Russia does this all the time.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:35 PM
Dec 2018

They "throw spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks". Meaning that they have been doing this for at least 18 years and they didn't care whether or not the left or the right took the bait. This was BEFORE sanctions. Putin is pissed at losing their former Soviet status and wanted to harm the US. He will keep doing it. The GOP happened to take the bait this last time. They groom morons like tRump constantly too.

Putin and Russia must be stopped permanently.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
14. I've wondered...
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 06:58 PM
Dec 2018

...If she asked trump on that tape of her was a set up with trump knowing she would be there to ask him that question all along. Was that planned for him showing that he was involved much more than thought before?

SergeStorms

(19,190 posts)
16. How I'd love to see...
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 07:16 PM
Dec 2018

that gruesome asshat, Wayne LaPierre, wind up in a cell alongside the Trumps, Kushner, and all of their fawning criminal sycophants. That would make me a very happy man!

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