Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:32 PM
GulfCoast66 (11,949 posts)
A prediction on the DU 2020 favorite a year from now.
Adam Schiff.
Never mind his interviews, his tweets alone tell us he is seething with righteous indignation. He is a former prosecutor who has watched this crook for 2 years and been impotent to actually do anything about it. A year of watching him bring the trump crime cartel to its knees will make him the most popular man in America. The dude is already talking about Money Laundering for gods sake. Not saying I support him or that he has any interest, but he will be the man a year from now.
|
20 replies, 2920 views
![]() |
Author | Time | Post |
![]() |
GulfCoast66 | Dec 2018 | OP |
AlexSFCA | Dec 2018 | #1 | |
GulfCoast66 | Dec 2018 | #2 | |
jaysunb | Dec 2018 | #3 | |
elocs | Dec 2018 | #4 | |
GulfCoast66 | Dec 2018 | #5 | |
pecosbob | Dec 2018 | #6 | |
GulfCoast66 | Dec 2018 | #7 | |
elocs | Dec 2018 | #8 | |
GulfCoast66 | Dec 2018 | #9 | |
BlueWI | Dec 2018 | #11 | |
elocs | Dec 2018 | #14 | |
BlueWI | Dec 2018 | #16 | |
elocs | Dec 2018 | #17 | |
BlueWI | Dec 2018 | #19 | |
elocs | Dec 2018 | #20 | |
crazycatlady | Dec 2018 | #18 | |
Horizens | Dec 2018 | #10 | |
BlueWI | Dec 2018 | #12 | |
brooklynite | Dec 2018 | #13 | |
sarcasmo | Dec 2018 | #15 |
Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:35 PM
AlexSFCA (6,081 posts)
1. he would be greaf as VP
Bringing attention to corruption
|
Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #1)
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:49 PM
GulfCoast66 (11,949 posts)
2. Today I agree. I am interested in a year from now.
I have great hope for the man. Not as a candidate but doing his job with vigor.
|
Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:51 PM
jaysunb (11,856 posts)
3. Thanks, but no thanks.
We'll just keep our Congressman home until it's time for him to replace DiFi.
![]() |
Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:52 PM
elocs (21,735 posts)
4. Don't we need good people in Congress or as governors?
Why does every Democrat who does their job well and is celebrated need to be held out as a presidential candidate?
|
Response to elocs (Reply #4)
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 07:59 PM
GulfCoast66 (11,949 posts)
5. I think I was clear that I am not supporting him.
But making a prediction and a statement about how things can change. If he is seen as leading the charge that brings down trump I think it is inevitable that he will be a DU favorite.
Full disclosure... if I could pick today it would be Brown/Harris. |
Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #5)
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 08:02 PM
pecosbob (6,884 posts)
6. Electing a Senator to replace Ms Harris wouldn't be much of a problem
but replacing Mr Brown in Ohio might.
|
Response to pecosbob (Reply #6)
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 08:07 PM
GulfCoast66 (11,949 posts)
7. Very difficult. And his replacement would be made by the Republican Governor
But unlike many on DU I think defeating trump will not be easy. His base votes and the electoral college skews against us.
Brown would sweep the Midwest. Harris would energize the Obama coilition bringing N.C. and Florida into the mix and in my humble opinion be unbeatable. The base of the party in my state and throughout the south is African American women and it would be nice for our ticket to recognize that fact. |
Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #7)
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 08:20 PM
elocs (21,735 posts)
8. If Trump runs again & lasts until the election it might not be the cakewalk so many think it'll be.
Imagine another snit on the Left where backers of one candidate are mad and we have a repeat of 2016. Then imagine a candidate running as a 3rd party candidate and doing what Perot did to Bush in '92.
Never, never underestimate the ability of Democrats to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. |
Response to elocs (Reply #8)
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 08:32 PM
GulfCoast66 (11,949 posts)
9. I do not see any supporter of a Democratic Party member sitting at home.
But I understand your concern.
And I believe a year from now the field is going to look totally different. |
Response to elocs (Reply #8)
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 10:33 AM
BlueWI (1,736 posts)
11. Also need to discourage registered Democrats from voting for Trump.
There are consistently more Democrats that vote for Republicans for president than there are Green Party voters. For some reason, they are never called out. The so-called left is more reliably Democratic than most demographics, and turnout strategies can maximize this advantage.
In Wisconsin, there's a critical Supreme Court election in April. Four months left to maximize turnout in advance of 2020. Outreach is critical. |
Response to BlueWI (Reply #11)
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 11:21 AM
elocs (21,735 posts)
14. If you remember, WI had a SC election on the ballot in our 2016 presidential primary
which Sanders easily won. But exit polls found that 11.5% of Sanders supporters didn't even bother to vote in the Supreme Court race even though it was on the ballot right in front of them.
Perhaps the Democratic Party has low information voters as well, but the ads for that race were all over tv and hard to miss who was who. |
Response to elocs (Reply #14)
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 12:52 PM
BlueWI (1,736 posts)
16. Sure I remember. That was 2016.
And now it's 2018, and it will soon be 2019 and 2020.
The statewide sweep of statewide offices in 2018 happened because party supporters looked forward rather than backwards and put the work in to maximize turnout. We do that again in 2019 and 2020 and anything is possible. The time for looking backwards for scapegoats is long past, IMO. We should be building on the 2018 wins, congratulating our new statewide officeholders, and prepping to win in the next two critical elections. |
Response to BlueWI (Reply #16)
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 03:20 PM
elocs (21,735 posts)
17. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior
and if you don't learn from them you will repeat them again,
just as the Left did in the election of 2016 because they didn't learn the lesson from the 2000 election. |
Response to elocs (Reply #17)
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 05:37 PM
BlueWI (1,736 posts)
19. Go to the Roper Center website and look at polling data.
You won't find a category called "the left," but if you look at liberal or very liberal voting trends, you'll find more consistent support for Democrats among liberals than among moderate or conservative voters.
Besides, we live in a state where in 2018, Tammy Baldwin got 55 percent of the vote while Evers topped out at 49 percent. Ticket splitting is common here and may well be a factor in the 2016 primary race too. As if it matters.I have never seen as much analysis of primary voting data in any year before 2016. Who knows how this compares to other years. Instead of blaming the left, we ought to be very glad that there is a left, or Democratic candidates would be in a world of hurt. Or maybe the white majority could be convinced not to vote Republican, as they do just about every election. That's a rhetorical war worth fighting. But that's a little more challenging than bashing "the left" for an primary election two years ago. There's a lot of dysfunctional voting choices. The tiny bit of left undervoting in 2016 is the least of our problems. |
Response to BlueWI (Reply #19)
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 05:44 PM
elocs (21,735 posts)
20. Like it or not, the Left, Liberal, Democrats, or whatever you want to call them
played their part in the loss but believe whatever you want.
|
Response to BlueWI (Reply #11)
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 03:40 PM
crazycatlady (4,492 posts)
18. Not all states have partisan registration
And in the states that do, there are a lot of 'Demosaurs' who were once Democrats, registered as such, but stopped voting blue years ago and never bothered to update their registration.
|
Response to pecosbob (Reply #6)
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 09:29 PM
Horizens (637 posts)
10. Good Point
But I think Brown/Klobucher would be unbeatable.
|
Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 11:10 AM
brooklynite (84,369 posts)
13. No he won't, because he won't be running
He sees a lot to get done on the House Intelligence Committee. He won't be a Presidential candidate.
|
Response to GulfCoast66 (Original post)
Sun Dec 16, 2018, 11:25 AM
sarcasmo (22,767 posts)
15. Schiff was a student of Laurence Tribe in college @tribelaw, Here is a tweet from Tribe.
"Trump is so outmatched by @RepAdamSchiff that it’s not even a fair fight. I knew when he was my con law student that he was dynamite, and now it’s obvious to the world. Read this spot-on profile by another superb former student of mine, @JeffreyToobin" |