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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTexas school speech pathologist refused to sign pro-Israel contract and lost her job
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As a result, Amawi informed her school district supervisor that she could not sign the oath. As her complaint against the school district explains, she ask[ed] why her personal political stances [about Israel and Palestine] impacted her work as a speech language pathologist.
In response, Amawis supervisor promised that she would investigate whether there were any ways around this barrier. But the supervisor ultimately told Amawi there were no alternatives: Either she would have to sign the oath, or the district would be legally barred from paying her under any type of contract.
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THE ANTI-BDS ISRAEL OATH was included in Amawis contract papers due to an Israel-specific state law enacted on May 2, 2017, by the Texas State Legislature and signed into law two days later by GOP Gov. Greg Abbott. The bill unanimously passed the lower House by a vote of 131-0, and then the Senate by a vote of 25-4.
https://theintercept.com/2018/12/17/israel-texas-anti-bds-law/
As the article points out, it's not just Texas; 26 states have similar legislation (including California and New York), and another 13 have proposed legislation. Some of these carry out boycotts of their own. And from last year:
TEXAS CITY TELLS PEOPLE NO HURRICANE HARVEY AID UNLESS THEY PROMISE NOT TO BOYCOTT ISRAEL
sinkingfeeling
(51,438 posts)boycott what ever I want.
ck4829
(35,038 posts)Sounds like you could be reported if you walk into the paper towel section of the grocery story and go past the paper towels made in Israel and get the paper towels made somewhere else.
Sounds kind of authoritarian, not to mention unconstitutional.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)VMA131Marine
(4,136 posts)The government can't censor your speech or force you what to say.
mulsh
(2,959 posts)speech, at least in the work place. I'd bet any law restricting a boycott on one's personal time would not be constitutional. as a previous poster noted re-read the first ammendment.
Better yet, I suggest every one read the complete U.S. Constitution, all sorts of interesting things in there.
VMA131Marine
(4,136 posts)Which a public school district is considered to be.
The Federal Government is the largest employer in the country. Can you imagine them being allowed to restrict or dictate the political speech of all those people (the one exception is the military and the contract explicitly allows for restrictions on speech, being subject to the UCMJ rather than civilian courts, etc).
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,314 posts)A private sector employer can restrict your off work political speech and not run afoul any constitutional protections. The First Amendment only protects from government sanctions.
The only thing that would protect a private sector employee from speech restrictions imposed by private employers would be legislation. And we see how thats going for us...
School teachers and other government employees have more protections from their employers because the employer is the government and any restrictions have to pass a higher test than the boss says so
FBaggins
(26,721 posts)It sounds (likely intentionally) like an employee was fired for her personal beliefs. In most cases, that would be unconstitutional.
However - she almost certainly wasn't an employee. She's a small business contracted by the state... and the state has a firm policy against doing business with any company that boycotts Israel.
The thing I think we're missing here is that she should have been able to sign the "oath" without any trouble. It's highly unlikely that her business has any opportunity to boycott Israel. It's hard to imagine that the company purchases any goods or services that might come from Israel that she could then stop as part of a boycott.
Her personal beliefs and purchasing behaviors are not the state's business and would be unrelated to the supposed "oath".
oberliner
(58,724 posts)So that could have something to do with it.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,494 posts)RAB910
(3,488 posts)Aristus
(66,293 posts)really useful?
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,394 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,306 posts)I saw that. I was thinking of posting it in the Civil Liberties forum sooner or later.
BigCrimeHat Retweeted
Keep political ideology out of education on all sides and at all levels.
Link to tweet
Coventina
(27,061 posts)We ran into this in our school district.
We had to sign a "loyalty oath" (mostly anti-Communist in nature) in order to teach.
Well, a Quaker came along and ended that.
It violated his freedom of religion to take an oath.
No more loyalty oaths.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Coventina
(27,061 posts)when I became dissatisfied with my Xian Fundie upbringing.
I enjoyed it a lot, and seriously considered joining, but eventually decided to just abandon church-going at all.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,314 posts)DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)The Quakers are a very liberal, contemporary, urban bunch. They dress like average Americans and send their kids to college often to encourage the cultivation of liberal enlightenment values. Historically they were very early abolitionists and advocates for womens rights, LGBTQ rights and the environment. Their meetings for worship have no ministers or priests and are egalitarian. In a large sense the term Truth or light is used instead of God (or Goddess) so each individual can sit in silence during meeting and wait in silence for the deepest truth to emerge. Many Quakers are practically Buddhist, some might even call themselves spiritual atheists although given that they have Judeo-Christian roots they give a nod to Jesus emphasis on love and nonviolence. Essentually they are very modern Christians super contemporary like liberal Jews, Baháis or Buddhists.
Quakers do not dress like the Quaker Oats man and to put them in the same category as the Amish will ruffle the feathers of both the Amish and the Society of Friends. But since both groups believe in solving problems nonviolently, they will approach this tired comparison with a touch of humor.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,314 posts)DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)You dont seem to have read the thread.
yesphan
(1,587 posts)was a Quaker. At least he attended a Quaker church.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)yesphan
(1,587 posts)Thank you for your concern.
The Mouth
(3,145 posts)Sad to say.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,271 posts)Rather, it's a contract, so it could have been terminated if she'd broken it (and perhaps she'd have had to pay them a penalty for that - I don't know). She felt, however, that she would be lying to sign it, since she was personally making a decision to not buy Israeli goods (not connected with the work, of course), so she couldn't. She could easily point out her religion forbids lying, whether or not an 'oath' is involved.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That is Glenn Greenwald's language.
Coventina
(27,061 posts)Glen got it wrong?
What a surprise.
UpInArms
(51,280 posts)Only the anti-apartheid movement made any changes in the 80s ...
When you cant vote at the polls, you can vote with your wallet
This is freaking crazy
rownesheck
(2,343 posts)absolutely terrible and stupid. I understand her not signing, but how in the hell would these dumbasses know if she was boycotting israel? trust me, i boycott lots of things that people don't know about, chik fil a, whataburger, certain types of paper towels/ bath tissue manufactured by koch industries, etc. oh damn, i guess the cat's out of the bag.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Israel is the only country mentioned by name, although the bill addresses discrimination against any sovereign state.
As far as I know, this has nothing to do with being anti-Palestinian.
https://www.jweekly.com/2016/09/30/gov-brown-makes-california-13th-state-with-anti-bds-law/
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Relying upon the quoted article, the employment contract attempts to restrict her purchasing with her own funds. There is a gray area with respect to her being involved in public activities promoting a boycott, but generally as long as it isn't done in conjunction with her employment, it would seem a constitutional violation.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Enough said.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)required to sign in the 1950s, which were eventually declared unconstitutional.
The school district I lived in Tucson had a couple of elementary school teachers who'd refused to sign the oath (they may have been Quakers, I don't know for sure) and worked for a number of years without pay while their challenge to the oath worked its way through the system. Eventually the school had to pay them all of that back pay.
Loyalty oaths are stupid.
spike91nz
(180 posts)Israel appears to be striving toward becoming a fascist state seeking to suppress any criticism anywhere in the world.
packman
(16,296 posts)and American has a mandate by God to protect it. I see that idiocy all the time in billboards and signs in my redneck Florida Panhandle area - God Bless Israel.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)Barbara Lee.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)And I believe Barbara Lee was opposed to the specific resolution and the powers it gave George W. Bush to pursue the War on Terror. I don't believe she was actually opposed to going into Afghanistan and toppling the Taliban after 9-11.
Archae
(46,301 posts)Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are forbidden BY LAW to be gay or lesbian.
Those convicted in their kangaroo courts, (guilt by accusation is common,) are jailed for years or hanged.
I never see any calls to boycott these vicious anti-gays...
I'm not excusing pro-Israel groups, but there has to be fairness here.
FBaggins
(26,721 posts)There are a few fair-trade organizations that market a handful of crafts and some minor products (olive oils, etc.)... but Palestine isn't exactly a major exporter to the US.
Archae
(46,301 posts)Until they clean out the corruption and hatred.
maxsolomon
(33,250 posts)Gaza is essentially a prison and the West Bank is being carved up by Settlements and walls.
That's not a recipe for Peace.
Crunchy Frog
(26,578 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)dlk
(11,514 posts)They have become quite bold in their attacks on our freedoms.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)BuddhaGirl
(3,599 posts)This is utter crap!
watoos
(7,142 posts)it can bribe a lot of politicians. They probably use the tax dollars that we give to Israel to give to the politicians.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It also received no financial assistance from Israel.
procon
(15,805 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)AIPAC doesn't give directly to politicians but it does give money indirectly through PACs.
When the Iran peace plan was being negotiated AIPAC spent 1.67 million dollars lobbying against the deal.
AIPAC spends around 2 million dollars a year lobbying.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)You are correct that the majority of their membership opposed the Iran deal (and the organization acted accordingly).
Takket
(21,529 posts)Or did they just throw it in there because of her name and appearance?
maxsolomon
(33,250 posts)Its in the State's contract language. She just read the fine print.
It's a certification that a business has to agree to in order to do business with the state. It isn't something that they could require state employees to sign.
The state cannot require citizens to not boycott something that they oppose. It can choose to not do business with companies that boycott Israel.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Led by evilgelicals hell bent on protecting a fictional homeland at all costs.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)As in, based on the belief that the Holy Land belongs to Christians and Jews only and that Muslims are the interlopers.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Historically? Or maybe Theodor Herzl's perception? Or maybe you want the version in the Hamas Charter?
You're not going to drag me into an argument that is a trap, and it doesn't matter for the sake of my argument. Evilgelicals see the Holy Land as theirs under the stewardship of a pro-American Jewish government, and they barely have any concept of the reality the current inhabitants live in.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Seems so. Good.
budkin
(6,699 posts)Because they love Israel's right wing government.
Crunchy Frog
(26,578 posts)Yeah, no problem with that at all.
Guess I'll be boycotting Texas now.
malaise
(268,710 posts)BS- I boycott what I want.