My succinct response to an old college friend trumpster on FB

[garybeck]

Last edited Mon Dec 17, 2018, 08:16 PM - Edit history (3)

An old friend from college was responding to something about trump's wrongdoings, saying "well Clinton did this" or "clinton did that".

here is my response. I think it sums things up quite succinctly.

feel free to copy and paste to your college friend.

WTF Chuck. first of all you are justifying Trump's illegal activity by talking about something you think Clinton did? is that for real? Are you serious? That is what 3rd graders do when they get caught. It has nothing to do with how our legal system works. Or, i guess I should get out of my speeding ticket because I saw someone throw trash out of their car window three years ago? Do you realize how stupid that reasoning is? That's Trump's most common defense (and evidently yours), "Clinton did this" or "clinton did that". Tell it to the judge.

And do you also believe that the Clintons have a child sex ring running out of a pizza restaurant? how about the moon landing? do you think that was faked? and do you think that the 97% of the world's climatologists are just making up shit? are you one of those lunatic Qnon people?

it is undeniable now, a foreign adversarial nation has infiltrated our entire political process: the election system, and the republican party itself. This has had a direct influence on our elections and our policy making. this is not a wild conspiracy theory. people have been indicted, people have pleaded guilty, and people are going to jail for it. the fact that you don't seem to care that our country is under attack from a foreign adversarial nation is just mind boggling.

Nearly every aspect of Trump's life is under investigation now. It's not because there is a conspiracy against him. It's for the simple fact that he has absolutely no regard for the law, and he never has. He lies every time he opens his mouth, and he's the biggest con man the world has ever seen.

Wake up. and grow up.

[smirkymonkey]

1. Well done!

I would like to see if he ever responds to that. I don't see how he could in any reasonable way.

[zipplewrath]

2. Good luck with that

Using logic with a Trumpet is generally a waste of time.

[PJMcK]

3. Well written

Plan to write off your "old friend."

[Auggie]

7. +1

[NurseJackie]

4. Are you still facebook friends?

[garybeck]

8. i actually unfriended him a couple years ago

he is the only person I have ever unfriended.
it was before trump got elected. hes been spewing Fox News crap for years.
i'm only on this thread with him now because we both responded to a mutual friend's post.
i couldn't hold back.

[LiberalFighter]

25. That way at least everyone else sees it.

[PeeJ52]

5. I give up trying to talk to them...

They don't care. They think it's funny everything is getting so effed up. They really do. If they can't win, they're just glad everyone else is losing too.

I'm moving to Canada... The Maritimes to be specific.

[maryellen99]

14. They won't be laughing when Putin invades Ukraine and then proceeds to take the Baltics and E Europe

And then the nukes start flying

[tnlurker]

6. I am stealing this

If that is okay with you.

[garybeck]

10. as Abbey Hoffman would say

Steal This Post



that was part of the reason I posted it. please do.

[OMGWTF]

15. I met Abbie Hoffman in Cleveland in 1988, the year before he died.

I bought him a Corona and he signed the copy of "Steal this Book" that I stole from my brother. It's one of my prized possessions. RIP

[garybeck]

18. i saw him speak at Penn State when i was a student. i think it was 1986.

he's always been a hero of mine.

have you seen the movie? it's worth watching

[Eliot Rosewater]

29. I have a close relative who adores rump. I refuse to talk to her about it.

It would be a total waste of my time.

This is not a surprise, the people I knew would be his supporters are, the people I knew would resist the traitor are doing that.

If you have a childish and racist view of life, you will support rump.

[NewJeffCT]

9. nice analogy

about the speeding ticket and littering

[erronis]

11. That was a good way to "unfriend" your ex-friend and get the message across.

I have a relative who I've always put up with even tho she is a raving repuglicon/trumpeesta. I finally had to do roughly what you did to have her disappear. Shame since she doesn't have a lot of friends (Seattle area.)

[garybeck]

13. i already unfriend him a couple years ago

we only crossed paths here because we were both responding to a mutual friend's post.

[Ohiogal]

12. Trump's felonies

All had one thing in common that Clinton never did. And that was to lie to the American people in order to get elected.

[cilla4progress]

16. Man...

can I steal this?

Although I no longer engage with trumpfuckers. But if I ever do ...

[garybeck]

19. yes please do.

that's part of the reason I posted it.

[Buckeyeblue]

17. I like the tone.

[Moebym]

20. My Repug friend does this on occasion, unfortunately

We only stay friends because we are careful not to bring up politics in our conversations, and otherwise have much in common. And she actually isn't an odious person like some Trump supporters are, but she is strongly partisan, highly opinionated and can be argumentative.

[BigmanPigman]

21. I love it!

I wish you could have sent it to my old college friend but we no longer communicate. In 2016 I sent her one of my hand made Christmas cards (I make mine and we went to art school) with tRump as the Grinch. I got no neg feedback. I sent the same card last year (too sick to make a new one) and she wrote a letter back telling me she supports her "dear leader", etc. I couldn't believe it so for her birthday card I sent a home made one just for her using the art from my hand made anti-tRump bumper stickers. She sent the card back and told me that I obviously believe the fake news and not to contact her again.

"Good riddance to bad rubbish" I say.

[yonder]

22. K&R, bookmarked too, so as to steal it if necessary.

Agree with the upthread post too -- it does have a good tone.

[Hulk]

23. BAM!! SPANK!!

Nice job. These idiots need to wake the f.*# up, and they can only wake up on their own. It's like an alcoholic in that respect. They can get info. They can get support and facts; but when it comes right down to, they have to do the 12 step program beginning with admitting there is a problem to address. I realize that's not the first step in AA, but you get the idea.

[ZERTErYNOthe]

24. My usual response...

My usual response when talking with people who say 'Clinton did it ...', is to ask if they thought it was OK when Clinton did "it".

Of course it wasn't .... I like to not take a position, but to just ask them questions: "So you are saying that ... ", etc. My favorite, reserved for a few people, is to ask why they feel that the Clinton's are the gold standard of morality and ethics. While I may feel differently, I like to hear people who have spent years bashing the Clinton's explain why it is now somehow different, that the standard has changed. I seem genuinely interested in their responses, because I truly am, so they often open up honestly. Mostly they don't have a coherent answer, and tend to "short circuit" when trying to respond. Since I never gave an opinion they aren't mad at me (well, sometimes they are, but when I ask them why, the answers are interesting).

[elmac]

26. I'm glad I don't hve any tRumpster friends or family

I dumped them a long time ago.

[Pluvious]

45. After TG dinner, my BIL actually...

... Stood up and in a pleading glare, told me he'd suffered through the two term of Obama, and now it's their turn.

I gave up attempting any more "discussion."

[Honeycombe8]

27. It's pointless, you know. If they wanted to know the truth, they would.

The fact is, they don't care about the truth. They care about illegal immigrants, brown people procreating too fast, the decline of the white population, tax cuts for themselves, and having to pay for Medicaid and food supplements for who they consider to be deadbeats. If it takes a mob boss or traitor to "make America great again," then so be it.

[TeamPooka]

28. many people make the mistake of thinking people they have close proximity to during certain periods

in their lives are actually friends they want to keep in their lives forever.
High school and college are a perfect example of this.
then you grow up and find out that person you studied and drank with is an asshole.
Let 'em go.

[Power 2 the People]

30. Hard to be civil to them but you did great.

[brush]

31. Oh, man! Is love, love, love that. Can't get any better. I assume you were unfriended?

No lost though.

[Sugarcoated]

32. Great response

I'd be interested to hear their response

[garybeck]

35. to be honest,

there were a few back-and-forths that lead to that... and it caused me to carry around a lot of negative energy for the better part of a day. I almost didn't write that at all. but the words started collecting in my head and I decided to go back one more time and write that. I am not sure i even want to check to see if he responded. I feel good about what I wrote now and if I read what he said afterwards it's just going to bring me down to again and I just don't need that. at some point someone has to stop. I don't have much more to say and I've heard enough of his babble to know that it's not worth my time.

[Pluvious]

46. I think you are exactly right in your sentiment with that...

It's more like a religious belief, or preference for chocolate ice cream over strawberry.

Your not gonna talk me out of it, so why try.

It takes a professional to deprogram a cult victim, not us amateurs.

[calimary]

49. Good point. Denial runs deeper than any of us would believe.

Mainly, I think, it’s just damn near impossible to admit, or concede, that you were wrong. Especially THIS wrong.

That you were fooled.

That you got taken.

That you swallowed it whole.

That you bought it not just wholesale but retail.

That you’ve been conned. Played. Royally HAD.

That’s some pretty serious shit to have to face - and then own. There are many who just can’t bring themselves to go there.

It’s the pride thing. Nancy Pelosi even calls it a “manhood thing.”

[Pepsidog]

33. Good response but these ignorant bastards are so brainwashed I doubt he read past the first line.

[LBM20]

34. EVERY Democrat needs to stop being the "better person" and HAMMER these right wing assholes!

[SunSeeker]

37. Exactly. nt

[ChoppinBroccoli]

36. Let Me Predict His Response

"FAKE NEWS!" Probably all in caps, just like I wrote it. Republicans in general, and Trump supporters in particular, think in bumper stickers and catchphrases because thinking is hard. If it doesn't fit on a bumper sticker, it isn't worth knowing. That's why I'd be surprised if this person reads past the first sentence.

[Nitram]

39. But even as they type that it turns to ashes in their mouth, leaving a very bitter taste.

The truth is gradually dawning on those little tiny Trumpist brains, and it is a painful experience.

[Nitram]

38. I think you covered everything. Well done!

[lambchopp59]

40. Concur, excellent retort

As my cousin is so fond of saying, "Everything comes out in the wash" and does our government ever need extra odor removing surfactant more than ever?
None of these fools can any longer claim to be "patriots" supporting Trump's treasonous treachery.
Wake up, grow up, and I'll pitch my part for your Trumpster friend's ticket to Russia.

[KPN]

41. My experience: you're talking to a brick wall man.

But we’ll done nonetheless. You pretty much summed up the irrationality of these people in a few paragraphs.

[TruckFump]

42. What the hell is it with the tRumpistas?

They never seem to defend the sinking POS on his own merits and actions. They keep saying how bad Hillary is. My response has been: "So if Hillary is bad, how does that make Trump good?" The "logic" -- or lack thereof -- of attacking Hillary to show how good tRump is totally perplexes me.

[samnsara]

43. good response... doubt if your friend read it.. they are all cowards.

….I will c/p to my trumper sister!

[Eddie18]

44. Easier reply

Chuck, you ignorant slut.

Or, thank you for reply, Chuck, please hold and a team of Swiss psychiatrists will be with you soon. We appreciate your desire to speak up, but please hold for the next available medical interventionist. Please have your Obamacare account number ready along with your pre-existing mental condition file number. We will now play happy Jesus songs while you wait.

[Pluvious]

48. Love it ! Very inspired :)

[Glaisne]

47. When they do the "well Clinton did this" or "clinton did that"

it means they are perfectly ok with criminality by elected officials so long as it's Republicans doing it. Party is more important to them than anything else. Besides, Clinton didn't do the things they accuse him/her of doing and the Clintons are no where near as corrupt or criminal as the Trump Crime Family.

[renate]

50. " they are perfectly ok with criminality by elected officials so long as it's Republicans doing it"

I never thought of that response in that light before, but you are absolutely right. Very good point.

[Anon-C]

51. Good against remotes is one thing...

...good against the algorithm? That's something else.

[FM123]

52. More than a succinct response, a glorious one!