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More winning (Original Post) malaise Dec 2018 OP
Not looking at my portfolio.. cilla4progress Dec 2018 #1
Down 12% since October. Wellstone ruled Dec 2018 #2
Down 4.5% for the year. Individual 1 economy. So much winning. Squinch Dec 2018 #5
That's since the Great Depression lunatica Dec 2018 #3
Correct malaise Dec 2018 #4
And they don't want evil gubmint help, so not fooled Dec 2018 #15
I'm thinking soylent green. MAGA gag me with a spoon. erronis Dec 2018 #16
MAGAts gotta eat, y'know Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #37
Agree with all. We really need tags that show "insane irony" or even higher/lower levels erronis Dec 2018 #39
thanks! percontation point and irony mark Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #40
Yeah - even trying to read these wikipedia pages in the latest firefox blows out the display. erronis Dec 2018 #41
Enough with the winning, already! marble falls Dec 2018 #6
While I am not a Trump fan that just isn't true. Maybe in point loss doc03 Dec 2018 #7
It actually is true. OilemFirchen Dec 2018 #11
Ok maybe for a December but no way for the year. nt doc03 Dec 2018 #12
The OP says December malaise Dec 2018 #14
That is deceiving to pick one month doc03 Dec 2018 #23
It's also the worst year in a decade n/t malaise Dec 2018 #42
I think you are right about that nt doc03 Dec 2018 #49
I remember when Bush II tried to tie Social Security to the stock market. panader0 Dec 2018 #8
The stock market averages 10% per year return. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #32
It'll be interesting to see what happens tomorrow if the fed raises interest rates. Vinca Dec 2018 #9
Cancelling the TPP was another huge, expensive blunder FakeNoose Dec 2018 #10
Well said malaise Dec 2018 #43
My oldest son is a senior this year Bettie Dec 2018 #13
thats not true at all......nt mentalslavery Dec 2018 #17
Tell CNBC n/t malaise Dec 2018 #18
not the best source for information mentalslavery Dec 2018 #24
Something here is telling me I need to wash socks. rzemanfl Dec 2018 #27
Haha malaise Dec 2018 #44
I wash them by hand like Harry Truman did. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2018 #47
... Major Nikon Dec 2018 #19
No no no malaise Dec 2018 #21
Sounds like someone is having a "Muunday" flibbitygiblets Dec 2018 #28
ROFL malaise Dec 2018 #29
That movie was a public service message about how NOT to run a business flibbitygiblets Dec 2018 #36
Love it malaise Dec 2018 #45
tRump has wiped out all his stock market gains and now PeeJ52 Dec 2018 #20
Huh? When Trump took office the Dow was just under 20,000. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #35
But at least the debt and deficit are down.... AJT Dec 2018 #22
Ha malaise Dec 2018 #30
Tariff Man! Liberal In Texas Dec 2018 #25
Every thing he touches turns to shit malaise Dec 2018 #31
Ari was talking about it this afternoon too. Not good. nt UniteFightBack Dec 2018 #26
I think it is significant watoos Dec 2018 #33
Of course it's significant malaise Dec 2018 #34
Thanks Obama. NT WeekiWater Dec 2018 #38
Morning Joe starts with this malaise Dec 2018 #46
That's awesome. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #48

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
1. Not looking at my portfolio..
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:41 PM
Dec 2018

though I am diversified and split into lesser volatile bonds.

I hope this rattles R cages and assists in them abandoning ship! Rats, you know...

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
3. That's since the Great Depression
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:49 PM
Dec 2018

Maybe his supporters can all live in MAGAville tent towns this time.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
15. And they don't want evil gubmint help, so
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 06:51 PM
Dec 2018

no programs of any kind to help them this time with the next Republican depression.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
37. MAGAts gotta eat, y'know
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 10:41 PM
Dec 2018

Mitch and Ryan will try to make sure MAGAts can't get social security or medicare; Repugs won their court case against Obamacare; trade wars killed jobs so they can't afford ammo to hunt food. Any MAGAts dying from achieving their stated goals should be considered fair game by surviving MAGAts.



Should be some kind of 'insane irony' tag that could be placed here.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
39. Agree with all. We really need tags that show "insane irony" or even higher/lower levels
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 10:49 PM
Dec 2018

Of multi-entendre. I worry about those poor souls (?) that need everything spelled out in the preface and wrapped up in the epilogue.

Personally, I like the dangly things.

Oh, and since I'm not hep with the current lingo, I had to research emoji's/etc. These are fun:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony_punctuation

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
40. thanks! percontation point and irony mark
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 10:58 PM
Dec 2018

I'd never heard of the percontation point or irony mark. Thanks for the link.

Says it's a special character so it might not show up for all systems / browsers: ⸮

erronis

(15,241 posts)
41. Yeah - even trying to read these wikipedia pages in the latest firefox blows out the display.
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 11:02 PM
Dec 2018

Works ok in chrome. Don't know about all the 10,000 other browser variants.

Still, it's fun to see the history of how writers have tried to deal with innuendo and subtleties.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
11. It actually is true.
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 06:33 PM
Dec 2018
The stock market is on pace for its worst December since the Great Depression

Two benchmark U.S. stock indexes are careening toward a historically bad December.

Both the Dow Jones Industrial Average and the S&P 500 are on pace for their worst December performance since 1931, when stocks were battered during the Great Depression. The Dow and S&P 500 are down 7.8 percent and 7.6 percent this month, respectively.

December is typically a very positive month for markets. The Dow has only fallen during 25 Decembers going back to 1931.

doc03

(35,325 posts)
23. That is deceiving to pick one month
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 07:13 PM
Dec 2018

out of a year. That is the kind of reporting people like Faux Nooz would do. In reality we aren't even in correction territory yet for the year. The market is still up 25+% since
Trump took office. But the market went up nearly 300% when Obama was pres.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
8. I remember when Bush II tried to tie Social Security to the stock market.
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 06:17 PM
Dec 2018

Everyone here seemed to think it was a terrible idea, and it was and is.
But so many here tie their retirement funds to the market. Why? If it's a bad
idea for Social Security, why is it a good idea for your 401k?
I have zero stock, no portfolio. As I have mentioned here before, 90% of all
stock is owned by the top 10%. Most people do not own stocks.
It's a rich man's poker game. A gamble.
If you have a retirement plan that relies on the market, I believe you can
restructure the plan.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
32. The stock market averages 10% per year return.
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 08:47 PM
Dec 2018

Some years it's more, some years it's less. Some years the market declines. But overall, it goes up. Another point to keep in mind is that the market sets new highs somewhat regularly. It never sets new lows. Never. Well, not since 1932.

Tying Social Security to the stock market was a terrible idea because of the uncertainty it would introduce in SS, and also that it would be an incredible and undeserved windfall for Wall Street and brokers everywhere.

Putting all of your money under the mattress, in a savings account, or even in bonds is a very bad idea because there is not only no growth, but you won't even keep up with inflation.

Diversification is the key.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
10. Cancelling the TPP was another huge, expensive blunder
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 06:33 PM
Dec 2018


He had to cancel it because Obama negotiated it. That's the only reason!



malaise

(268,943 posts)
29. ROFL
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 08:18 PM
Dec 2018

Seriously I can't count the number of times I've watched Office Space andI still crack up.
I have two nephews who love watching it with me. At first it was just to watch me laugh non- stop. Over the years they got it
It's a serious movie.n

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
36. That movie was a public service message about how NOT to run a business
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 10:40 PM
Dec 2018

At the time it came out, I worked for a company that actually had TPS reports (their main system was the Total Processing System).
Also, my boyfriend (at the time) bought me a huge swingline stapler and spray-painted it red as a Christmas present.





 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
20. tRump has wiped out all his stock market gains and now
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 07:05 PM
Dec 2018

is starting to eat into the gains that Obama brought back from the Bush years. If they don't get rid of tRump soon, we'll be right back to 2008 again.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
35. Huh? When Trump took office the Dow was just under 20,000.
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 09:17 PM
Dec 2018

It closed today at 24,100. That does not wipe out all of his stock market gains.

And we are years overdue for a correction. Which is what this is at this point.

Yeah, I wouldn't be all that surprised if the market fell back a few thousand more points, but keep in mind that it won't be setting a new low. For that it would have to peel back all the way to 41.22, and that's not going to happen.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
33. I think it is significant
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 08:47 PM
Dec 2018

There has never been a worse month for the Dow and S&P since 1931. Also this is after Trump gave corporations big tax breaks, allowed them to bring back offshore money for pennies on the dollar and deregulated. The market should be booming.

malaise

(268,943 posts)
46. Morning Joe starts with this
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 07:01 AM
Dec 2018

Worst December since the Great Depression. They thanked Obama for the recovery.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
48. That's awesome.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:51 AM
Dec 2018

In the world of politics and for the average American these short phrases are huge. Worst December since the Great Depression. Worst December since the Great Depression. It sets perspective without having to get into minutia.

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