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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI know many here have differing opinions on Comey....
But the way he passionately spoke out today ..unusual in intensity for him. Especially how he called out faux news and noted the fact the potus is calling people "rats" ..telling it all like we know it was ..without a flinch and pure conviction. Calling out the pubs and their endless baseless closed door hearings...same questions asked same answers given (while we face a gov. shutdown)
It was simply amazing ... and even if you hold a grudge against him. I believe he deserves some credit and redemption.
Simply put it made my day.
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)But hes a patriot. We all have to stick together now.
SCantiGOP
(13,867 posts)N/T
still_one
(92,108 posts)katmondoo
(6,454 posts)He could have turned against Trump a lot sooner. He knew he was losing
Cha
(297,026 posts)byronius
(7,392 posts)I agree, he's trying to make up for his past. I respect that.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)But the fact of the matter remains that his actions in late October 2016 were one of the little things that swung the election away from the candidate who got the most votes. Comey's pique with the present iteration of Republicans without acknowledging his own role in putting them where they are is still a problem for me. I'm upset as well with popular media outlets that decry Republican fuckery but who still can't bring themselves to own up to their role in putting the nation through this bullshit.
violetpastille
(1,483 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,582 posts)iluvtennis
(19,843 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)It didn't tip the scales, it overhauled the race.
The same could be said for his July press conference. And his decision to publicly label her "under FBI investigation" to begin with. And his decision to launch an investigation based on what he called "a public referral."
riversedge
(70,174 posts)noticeable difference. After Comey's letter, there was a tension, a questions, many mentioning the new emails that Comey mentioned. It was so noticeable and so sad---and made me so angry. I wish Comey would acknowledge he was so wrong to do this so close to the election. so wrong. But I do give him credit for today. He deserves a big Thank you for speaking out.
coeur_de_lion
(3,676 posts)to make up fpr screwing us out of an actual president. And handing the election to the orange buffoon.
What could he possibly do to atone for it?
I'm pleased that he seems to want to be helpful now.
But I'd like to see something more. At least an acknowledgement for what he did.
RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)That caused him to do what he did concerning the Hillary e-mail thing.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)regardless of political party or political conviction. Today Comey showed who's side he is on; America's side!
Quixote1818
(28,925 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Is lacking, a true loyalty to our country.
JI7
(89,244 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:22 AM - Edit history (1)
when he made public reopening the investigation into Hillary Clinton. That's why I've got a problem with him.
It's good that he spoke out as he did, but in my mind...too little, too late.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Response to cynatnite (Reply #9)
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lunatica
(53,410 posts)He was dead wrong then about hurting Hillary.
People are rarely either/or, right/wrong, all good or all bad.
People can be every shade of gray in between.
Comey is one of those. I believe that as he grows older he will understand his role in the 2016 elections. It will change him, and I dont think it will be an easy change.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)H2O Man
(73,524 posts)I respect Mr. Comey. And that's held true for many years. I might not agree with his opinions on some things, but he is an honorable man.
sprinkleeninow
(20,235 posts)I'll ease up if he admits he screwed up, which he most likely will never.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)That's what I thought you said at first read.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Hassler
(3,370 posts)In the press conference he gave criticizing Clinton, while saying no crime was committed. Then in going public with the reopening of the case 11 days before the election because he believed Clinton was going to win. That shows a political calculus rather than a cop following leads.
uponit7771
(90,323 posts)lostnfound
(16,169 posts)Anyone whose vote was influenced by the Hillary email announcement is too irrational or uninformed to vote. The dumbing down of the American people enabled the result.
Comeys one announcement did not turn the election, and if it did, we have a bunch of dunces.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)former repubs that have had enough. We can go back to our regularly scheduled programming later, when this is all over.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Any party that helps others in their party is complicit in the whole shooting match. They knew what was up and didn't speak up, and just went along. The gop is rotten to the core.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)rock and an impossible hard place.
Imagine that he hadn't said anything and Hillary won. And it turned out that there were a slew of classified emails on the server that they found. And tRump made a huge stink about it, the networks ran with it (because they all love bashing the Clintons). And Congress which would probably have stayed under GOP Control went ballistic, held more and more hearings about everything Clinton and probably ended up impeaching her.
Even if, as it actually turned out, there was nothing on the server, he still would have had Congress howling for his head for not disclosing the server earlier. My personal opinion is that Comey was totally screwed no matter what he did.
YMMV
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)I respect him.
He has done all that he could to rectify the situation.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)including Hatch Act violation. The bar is so low now that we give credits and recognition for simply saying the right things. He is saying the right things, Ill take it but will gop and repub voters listen to him or its same old preaching to the choir.
Wash. state Desk Jet
(3,426 posts)I have no doubt there must a truth to be told or uncovered. I do recall reading the NYPD was putting pressure on the FBI office NYC over the ,scandal thing. here's a link to the daily mail sept. 2016. a refresher.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3801083/NYPD-Special-Victims-Unit-launches-investigation-Anthony-Weiner-DailyMail-com-reveals-line-sexting-relationship-15-year-old-girl.html
Comey did mention a suspected leaker in the NY fbi office's just the other day.Comey defends the integrity of the FBI , the thing of it, there is always a bad apple in every bunch.And Comey, he's not the bad guy.
I think Giuliani was in deep on that ordeal in it's entirety.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Did this teach him what republicans are truly like? They will stop at nothing to get what they want.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,157 posts)Overall, I think he's a honest, straight shooter. He'll make a great witness against Trump.
However, as FBI director, I think he was unable to control a few rogue elements within the organization and that lead to the mess in the run up to the election.
Could he have done a better job handling things? Probably.
Did he seek to actually sabotage Hillary's campaign? I don't think so at all.
If you follow Seth Abramson he's put together some good evidence that Comey's hand was forced against his will by a few rogue folks in the FBI, and it makes sense.
wryter2000
(46,025 posts)Howard Dean said he was over his head at the FBI. Comey probably did what he thought was right and made a huge mistake.
He stood up to the Bushies when they went to Ashcroft's ICU bed to try to force Ashcroft to approve something illegal. I don't believe he's the typical, corrupt Republican. In fact, if all Republicans were like him we'd be in pretty good shape.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)NNadir
(33,509 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Nitram
(22,776 posts)right thing. He will not admitt that he erred when he re-opened the Clinton investigation two weeks before the election. But I do appreciate the good he has done since.