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AndJusticeForSome

(537 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 03:23 AM Dec 2018

Is it at all possible that Flynn's deal preceeded his Turkey revelations?

Could his deal have been granted based largely on, for example, his Russian involvement, and that only later did the details emerge about Turkey?

Otherwise, I am having a very difficult time understanding how Flynn skates without jail time, considering his Turkish involvement.

Unless the bigger fish is Pence, it just makes no sense to me.

Please let it be Pence.

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Is it at all possible that Flynn's deal preceeded his Turkey revelations? (Original Post) AndJusticeForSome Dec 2018 OP
It makes sense that Trump's past business dealings weren't going to stand up to any scrutiny, RDANGELO Dec 2018 #1
We've known about Flynn and Turkey since 2017. pnwmom Dec 2018 #2
As they say, the devil is in the details AndJusticeForSome Dec 2018 #3
Why are you sure the NSA, CIA, and FBI were all unaware? pnwmom Dec 2018 #4
Oh, by "us" I thought we were talking about the public AndJusticeForSome Dec 2018 #5
I wonder if the same NY office of the FBI that caused trouble pnwmom Dec 2018 #6
Right? Would not be surprised. nt AndJusticeForSome Dec 2018 #7

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
1. It makes sense that Trump's past business dealings weren't going to stand up to any scrutiny,
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:14 AM
Dec 2018

and that it was intended that Pence would eventually become president. Don't fogent , it was Manefort who pushed for Pence. It would all make sense that Trump was just some sort of a Patsy.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
2. We've known about Flynn and Turkey since 2017.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:52 AM
Dec 2018

So Comey probably knew about it earlier.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/politics/michael-flynn-turkey.html

There could be multiple big fish. Pence, Jr., Jared, Trump . . . .

I'm sure letting Flynn "skate" will prove to be worth it.

AndJusticeForSome

(537 posts)
3. As they say, the devil is in the details
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:10 AM
Dec 2018

Even that article claims that it wasn't the Turkish government itself that was paying Flynn (which, surprise, it was)

I'm pretty sure that the details that came out today we're not known by us in 2017.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
4. Why are you sure the NSA, CIA, and FBI were all unaware?
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:13 AM
Dec 2018

Remember that Obama warned Trump that it wouldn't be a good idea to hire Flynn.

In any case, there isn't a bright line between working for the Turkish government and "representing the interests of the Turkish government" by taking money from a wealthy backer of that government.

Michael T. Flynn, who went from the campaign trail to the White House as President Trump’s first national security adviser, filed papers this week acknowledging that he worked as a foreign agent last year representing the interests of the Turkish government in a dispute with the United States.

AndJusticeForSome

(537 posts)
5. Oh, by "us" I thought we were talking about the public
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:34 AM
Dec 2018

Frankly, I haven't been following the Flynn story much; so tonight's Maddow was an eye-opener for me. It infuriated me. The hubris!

One thing got me very concerned though: apparently it was Flynn's election day 2016 NYT Op-Ed that drew scrutiny from the IC. If true, I have to wonder. Same way I wonder how Trump's lifetime of criminal activity is just now really getting the attention of law enforcement.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
6. I wonder if the same NY office of the FBI that caused trouble
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:54 AM
Dec 2018

for Hillary was protecting Trump all those years.

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