Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 03:56 AM Dec 2018

Wow... Russia contributed $125,000,000 to Trump's campaign

Russia generated Pro-Trump social media content that created 250,000,000 social media engagements. A measure of how wide spread the campaign reached.

I just looked up the estimated cost to buy social media posts when paying per engagement generated.

On average, it costs about $500 to buy 1000 engagements.

So, Russias investment in Trump was valued at $125,000,000.

That's unreal.

30 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Wow... Russia contributed $125,000,000 to Trump's campaign (Original Post) zaj Dec 2018 OP
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Dec 2018 #1
It's really 50 cent per engagement? That seems high. n/t pnwmom Dec 2018 #2
It is high. I sometimes pay to promote my workplace's events on social media femmedem Dec 2018 #3
Engagements vs Impressions zaj Dec 2018 #11
You are correct! Thanks. femmedem Dec 2018 #13
Thanks. Your post was very informative. n/t Julian Englis Dec 2018 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Julian Englis Dec 2018 #17
Per Buffer's estimates "$0.25 to $0.75 per average post engagement" zaj Dec 2018 #6
We pay between $0.41 and $0.47 with fairly coarse targeting Recursion Dec 2018 #8
K and R nt Stuart G Dec 2018 #4
So I never have had facebook jcgoldie Dec 2018 #5
You just did an "engagement" with this post Recursion Dec 2018 #9
Thanks jcgoldie Dec 2018 #10
Could a "post" also be those by bots here at DU? eleny Dec 2018 #15
It could, but DU isn't very monetizable Recursion Dec 2018 #24
Thanks eleny Dec 2018 #26
Not counting the Russian money through the TrishaJ Dec 2018 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author zaj Dec 2018 #12
That's nothing compared to what they would have made if the sanctions had been lifted... Volaris Dec 2018 #14
It surely didnt cost that much... zaj Dec 2018 #20
I believe it. Volaris Dec 2018 #21
They already won. zaj Dec 2018 #23
. Achilleaze Dec 2018 #18
5 billion views of powerful Russian propaganda zaj Dec 2018 #19
And if 10% had the desired effect, there's the votes u need to steal the election Volaris Dec 2018 #22
In addition to 30 million laundered through the NRA and who knows how many more wiggs Dec 2018 #25
The Sanctions Must Be Painful dlk Dec 2018 #27
It's a hell of a lot cheaoper than sending an invading army DFW Dec 2018 #28
And denial that we are at war continues unabated. triron Dec 2018 #29
Well, sure. What could be more convenient than that? DFW Dec 2018 #30

femmedem

(8,199 posts)
3. It is high. I sometimes pay to promote my workplace's events on social media
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 06:32 AM
Dec 2018

And I can usually get 2000 engagements for about $40.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
11. Engagements vs Impressions
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:37 AM
Dec 2018

There are better digital marketing folks than me, but I have some a lot of event marketing and $40 for 2000 impression feels about right for a boosted event post.

$40 for 2000 event engagements (going, interested, share or registration clicks) seems low.

Looking around, 2-5% engagement rate is normal.

So, if we assume you are paying $40/ 2000 impressions and getting 5% engagement rate, that's $800 for 2000 engagements or $.40 per engagement.

So I don't know the final answer, but I think we might be talking apples (impressions) vs oranges (engagements).

femmedem

(8,199 posts)
13. You are correct! Thanks.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 08:26 PM
Dec 2018

I just checked on the stats from my last boosted post, and for $20 I reached 1800 people, got 89 link clinks, ten shares and 8 comments.

On the one hand, I'm embarrassed I mixed up the two terms. On the other hand, it seems like my engagement rate is pretty good.

Response to zaj (Reply #11)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. We pay between $0.41 and $0.47 with fairly coarse targeting
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:25 AM
Dec 2018

That's definintely the ballpark, and the more finely you target the more it costs

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. You just did an "engagement" with this post
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:26 AM
Dec 2018

On Facebook, you can respond to posts or ads in various ways: you might click that you "Like" it, or comment on it, or share it with a friend. Each of those is an "engagement". Engagements cost a lot more than "impressions", which is just whenever you passively see an ad but don't respond.

(There's similar measurements on different social networks; in general what makes something a social network is that you can read something someone wrote and react or respond to it in some way: so on Twitter you might retweet, on pinterest you might pin, etc.)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
24. It could, but DU isn't very monetizable
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 10:36 PM
Dec 2018

There's no native ad stream (that I know of) and, since DU's main goal is attracting paying users, it isn't architectured towards selling us to advertisers.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
26. Thanks
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 11:32 PM
Dec 2018

I thought that the goal could also be a hearts and minds thing.

Btw, there are ads here at DU for non paying members. Those could be worth something to DU for the clicks. But I don't know anything about that arrangement so my random thought on that isn't based on knowledge.

Response to TrishaJ (Reply #7)

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
14. That's nothing compared to what they would have made if the sanctions had been lifted...
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 08:34 PM
Dec 2018

As it is, even if it's chalked up to a loss that yieled nothing, it was a smart risk. And 125M is nothing when you're robbing it from the Russian People, as Putin and his Crew are doing.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
20. It surely didnt cost that much...
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:04 PM
Dec 2018

This just the value. I've heard an estimate of it only costing $25m to execute.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
21. I believe it.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:09 PM
Dec 2018

If it had worked, it would have been a deal at the same level as the Louisianna Purchase heh. I suppose I can't blame them for trying...

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
23. They already won.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:18 PM
Dec 2018

Sanctions are huge, but there is even a much was goal for Putin.

Hes trying to destroy the western alliance that defeated the authoritarian regimes of the former Soviet Union.

NATO and EU

We are likely to find out that they were also lobbying Trump to end TPP, NAFTA and any global relationship that strengthened global expansion of western style democracy.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
19. 5 billion views of powerful Russian propaganda
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:02 PM
Dec 2018

If 5% of views become engagements... that would mean this was the equivilant of 5 billion views of powerful Russian propaganda targeted at a very susceptible audience.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
22. And if 10% had the desired effect, there's the votes u need to steal the election
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:10 PM
Dec 2018

In the Electoral College, right?

wiggs

(7,811 posts)
25. In addition to 30 million laundered through the NRA and who knows how many more
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 11:23 PM
Dec 2018

millions laundered through real estate or bank transactions or to the inauguration committee.

I take that back...there is someone who knows.

DFW

(54,325 posts)
28. It's a hell of a lot cheaoper than sending an invading army
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 11:49 PM
Dec 2018

Putin wrecked our government without ever firing a shot or losing one soldier.
Sounds HIGHLY cost-efficient to me.

DFW

(54,325 posts)
30. Well, sure. What could be more convenient than that?
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 05:03 AM
Dec 2018

Even if bombs are falling from the sky and exploding all around you, if you deny that you are under attack, then there is no reason to mount an air raid defense, is there?

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Wow... Russia contributed...