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ooky

(8,921 posts)
3. His crimes are disgusting.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:21 PM
Dec 2018

He must have given up something really huge to avoid a long prison sentence because he really deserves it. If I were judge I would honor his deal for 0-6 months by giving him the full 6 months, starting today, and have him led off in shackles like the disgrace he is. He is a traitor.

 

KCDebbie

(664 posts)
4. Pres O fired Gen Flynn for misconduct...
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:25 PM
Dec 2018

But maybe the line between treadon and misconduct was more blurred than we know!

Raven

(13,885 posts)
9. No, the message would be "don't try to wiggle out
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:18 PM
Dec 2018

of taking responsibility for what you have done by trashing the FBI. You should know better."

lostnfound

(16,169 posts)
6. Will trump pardon him? Does he still think Flynn is protecting him?
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:35 PM
Dec 2018

What if Flynn said, I won’t tell him anything they don’t already know?

pwb

(11,258 posts)
8. Committing treason should mean loss of pension.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:41 PM
Dec 2018

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And he should be stripped of his general rank. Traitor.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
13. How many traitor American generals have there been?
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:36 PM
Dec 2018

The only one that comes to mind is literally Benedict Arnold.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
10. I want the so-called "cooperating" witnesses to keep cooperating...
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:25 PM
Dec 2018

I'm not a fan of doing the tRump thing and trashing witnesses that are cooperating. I'm a fan of doing what needs to be done to get the bigger fish.

Sometimes it means being nice to those on the lower rung of the ladder to get to someone at the top. I'm for that.

That's how a lot of this investigation has gotten done. As much as I want to cheer the judge for his statements to Flynn, I also recognize that it could potentially do damage to a federal investigation of tRump. If those cooperating thinks they're going to prison no matter what, why should they cooperate?

I'm for getting tRump, even if it means letting the smaller fish walk.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
11. Not a good method to work your way
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:27 PM
Dec 2018

to the top of the criminal food chain. Prosecutors make uncomfortable deals with criminals in order to get bigger criminals. That’s just how it works.

pecosbob

(7,534 posts)
12. I think prosecution under UCMJ is very much dependant upon military 'politics'
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:33 PM
Dec 2018

I don't believe there is any particular legal obligation for military top brass to bring a court-martial against him, but at the very least his action of lying to the FBI constitutes a violation of Article 133 Conduct Unbecoming an Officer and many have lost their rank and pensions for much lesser offenses. His retired status may exempt him from military charges. If he has maintained reserve duty status I would think he could be prosecuted.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
15. Well, he's a fucking traitor, so there's that.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 06:14 PM
Dec 2018

The last American general who I can remember conspired with a foreign power against the people of the United States was literally Benedict Arnold.

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