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Doesn't get much better than this, folks (Original Post) kpete Dec 2018 OP
Yeah, except for when he turned around and walked it all back after the recess ... mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #1
That's what I was wondering... 2naSalit Dec 2018 #2
Mueller's prosecutor VanGrack responded to judge saying they weren't considering treason charge wishstar Dec 2018 #9
That is because you have to be at war! True Blue American Dec 2018 #24
The People who wrote the Constitution could never have invisioned a cyber war njhoneybadger Dec 2018 #29
And Putin is getting help from every True Blue American Dec 2018 #30
I was thinking the same thing. Bucky Dec 2018 #17
Flynn has not been True Blue American Dec 2018 #25
Like all the other stupidity that flows from her mouth, it is television ooky Dec 2018 #3
I want to see Trump in front of this Judge. C_U_L8R Dec 2018 #4
Trump always wets his pants. RVN VET71 Dec 2018 #18
Imo, this judge is a patriot eleny Dec 2018 #5
Yep. It fits. Sit and think about that, Mr. "General." calimary Dec 2018 #15
Traitors prices have gone up. Flynn got $600,000, actually RVN VET71 Dec 2018 #19
Malcolm Nance just made that point, too, on Ari's show eleny Dec 2018 #20
Sounds pretty severe to me True Blue American Dec 2018 #26
so the question is barbtries Dec 2018 #6
A good question gratuitous Dec 2018 #16
Damn skippy! FirstLight Dec 2018 #7
K&R It was all a conservative power grab conspiracy & HRC should have been POTUS! ffr Dec 2018 #8
I wish the judge would stop playing around and say what's on his mind. dae Dec 2018 #10
Mueller might want to be careful and put Flynn under protective custody... PeeJ52 Dec 2018 #11
He did! True Blue American Dec 2018 #27
+1000 lindysalsagal Dec 2018 #12
I m so doing the happy dance. lark Dec 2018 #13
Yes, a fitting epitaph for the republicans who betrayed America Achilleaze Dec 2018 #14
Flynn is a traitor. The Republicans are actually on the side of traitors. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #21
i will bet limbaugh will launch an attack on judge sullivan that might sound subtle certainot Dec 2018 #22
This is the way I see what happened. watoos Dec 2018 #23
Your take is right! True Blue American Dec 2018 #28
I think all will be forgiven if... mitch96 Dec 2018 #31
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Yeah, except for when he turned around and walked it all back after the recess ...
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:23 PM
Dec 2018

Wonder if he got a phone call?

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
2. That's what I was wondering...
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:26 PM
Dec 2018

and the call might just have been about timing. We can't leap until we are on the mark and that comes after 1/3. Everything can happen after that.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
9. Mueller's prosecutor VanGrack responded to judge saying they weren't considering treason charge
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 03:23 PM
Dec 2018

That is why Judge walked back his question in deference to prosecution's answer

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
24. That is because you have to be at war!
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 11:20 AM
Dec 2018

Still does not cover what the Judge said to Flynn.

Flynn has been put on cannot travel over 50 miles unless he gets a court agreement and must turn in his pass port.

That makes Flynn a flight risk. Also his sentence will depend on how much he co- operates with the Investigation.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
29. The People who wrote the Constitution could never have invisioned a cyber war
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 11:46 AM
Dec 2018

Putin is trying to destroy America, I consider that to be a type of war without a formal declaration of war.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
30. And Putin is getting help from every
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 12:20 PM
Dec 2018

Member of Congress who tries to cover up! We must never forget that.

Facebook needs to be closed down. They were allowing others to see your info. Zuckerberg needs to be punished.

Bucky

(53,997 posts)
17. I was thinking the same thing.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:08 PM
Dec 2018

Maybe Mueller had a strategic reason for letting the little fish go. He could be...

1) trying to rattle Trump's cage,
2) hoping to entice more mid-level informants to get testimony against key players
3) sticking to an agreement with Flynn for turning over evidence that's much more important than we realize
4) protecting Flynn as an asset for future inquiries
5) protecting Flynn as a made member of the national security apparatus

ooky

(8,922 posts)
3. Like all the other stupidity that flows from her mouth, it is television
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:28 PM
Dec 2018

for morons, and no different than the other nonsense her audience wants to hear.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
15. Yep. It fits. Sit and think about that, Mr. "General."
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:20 PM
Dec 2018

Last edited Fri Dec 21, 2018, 06:52 AM - Edit history (1)

You disgrace the uniform you wore. The medals bestowed upon you. The troops under you, who looked to you for leadership. And all America, which trusted you with our protection, Mr. Flynn.

Whatever good you did in the armed forces years ago has been MORE than wiped out when you sold out your country. What’d they pay you? Thirty pieces of silver?

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
19. Traitors prices have gone up. Flynn got $600,000, actually
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:24 PM
Dec 2018

And don't forget the deal he was trying to make with Erdoghan to kidnap Fethullah Gulen, muslim cleric accused of plotting the failed coup and return him to Turkey. Flynn was asking $15,000,000, on delivery. Gulen has been living in the U.S. for about 20 years, under the official protection of the United States. Flynn wanted to get rich by sending him -- no, delivering him to certain death.

Yes, Flynn and his son are both traitors. Worse, far worse, than Benedict Arnold who, after all, was not born an American nor raised as one.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
20. Malcolm Nance just made that point, too, on Ari's show
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 08:22 PM
Dec 2018

He emphasized how he sold out his country "for - money". (I'm just now watching my recording of tonight's show)

I don't care what anyone says about this judge. I feel like he's speaking for me by making Flynn sweat and maybe even be reminded of his "lock her up" chanting.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
6. so the question is
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:37 PM
Dec 2018

will judge jeanine turn on flynn, or that unimpeachable judge? i'll skip finding out, thanks

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
16. A good question
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:21 PM
Dec 2018

Since Judge Jeanine can't be wrong, and Michael Flynn can't be guilty, I'd guess she'll pay the "deep state" card. Either that, or simply ignore her muffin-headed prior tweet and deflect any questions about it.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
11. Mueller might want to be careful and put Flynn under protective custody...
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 03:36 PM
Dec 2018

he might just try to do something stupid like trying to take the "honorable" way out of this before spilling all the beans if he hasn't already. It's gotta be killing him to hear being called a traitor and those "lock him up" chants being thrown back at him.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
27. He did!
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 11:25 AM
Dec 2018

Flynn can be picked up if he goes outside of his 50 mile limit and turning in his passport.i coorct that, the Judge did!

lark

(23,091 posts)
13. I m so doing the happy dance.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:15 PM
Dec 2018

drumpfs' minion got called out today as treasonous - which they all are and were. He has to be to going insane. I expect a huge tweet storm railing about the idiot judge any minute now.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. Flynn is a traitor. The Republicans are actually on the side of traitors.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 08:38 PM
Dec 2018

I never thought I'd live to see this in America. Flag-waving so-called patriots are defending traitors. That's how much they hate liberals. I remember the t-shirts we saw in a pic not long along, where two men are wearing t-shirts saying, "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat." That says it all. That makes them traitors, too.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
22. i will bet limbaugh will launch an attack on judge sullivan that might sound subtle
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 08:58 AM
Dec 2018

but will get repeated until the teabag dittoheads start sending threats. the russians will amplify the same with soc media

or the kremlin will design something to try to intimidate or threaten sullivan somehow, and it's end up in limbaugh's material and then the trolls will amplify it

maybe it will be something in sullivan's past, maybe a ruling, that can be distorted or exaggerated, or they could even make up something that can't be refuted directly, or it may be an attack on a relative, etc.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
23. This is the way I see what happened.
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 09:40 AM
Dec 2018

The judge kept hinting, strongly, that if he had to do the sentencing today, he was going to give Flynn jail time, and it wasn't going to be 0 to 6 months. Finally Flynn's lawyers caught on and asked for a postponement.
Flynn has 3 months to come up with more information for Mueller or Flynn is going to the slammer.

That's my take. This judge was pissed.

mitch96

(13,892 posts)
31. I think all will be forgiven if...
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 12:25 PM
Dec 2018

Early on, the instant Flynn realized his goose was cooked he agreed to wear a wire. Got EVERYBODY on record admitting to collusion and their dirty deeds..
Yeah, no jail time if that's under my xmas tree... That's what got Nixon.. Him admitting to breaking the law on tape...
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