Government shutdown all but certain after Trump refuses to sign funding bill

[Miles Archer]

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/government-shutdown-certain-trump-refuses-sign-funding-bill/

Outgoing House Speaker Paul Ryan on Thursday announced that President Donald Trump would not sign the government funding bill passed on Wednesday by the Senate — all but ensuring the government will shut down at the end of the week.

Ryan told reporters that Trump is refusing to sign the bill because it does not have adequate funding for border security, including money for his proposed wall on the Southern U.S. border.

[bluestarone]

1. ORDERS from putin

[bearsfootball516]

2. More likely, he saw his 2020 hopes go up in smoke if he signed it.

His base was absolutely furious at the reports he was going to sign it and probably would have abandoned him. Conservative pundits have been slamming him for the last 48 hours about it. Ann Coulter was basically telling people not to vote for him again if he signed it, people were saying it was going to be his "Read my lips" moment.

This is an attempt to keep his base happy.

[Mr.Bill]

15. He isn't capable of thinking abiout tomorrow,

much less 2020.

[TheBlackAdder]

7. Dems should shout: GOP controls both Houses of Congress and the White House. Trump wanted this.

[ooky]

10. I think Democrats should shout "make good on your promise to get Mexico to pay for it".

[Corgigal]

3. He's so over his head.

Oh well, the RNC needed Russian dark money so they had to go along.

Sorry, people who won't be paid. I wish we could set up a account for you. You're the true victims.

[tblue37]

9. My son and DIL will both be affected by a shutdown. nt

[Mr.Bill]

16. Sorry to hear that.

Remind them that Trump said he would be "proud" to shut down the government.

[manor321]

4. They can't govern

[TheBlackAdder]

5. FOX News talked him into doing it. It's also a distraction from Syria, sanctions, and crimes.

[Quemado]

27. And so did Rash Windbag

Trump got pushed into another one of his childish temper tantrums by this Windbag rant: "Meanwhile, $5 billion, a measly $5 billion — when compared to the size of the federal budget for border security — is an impossibility. Somebody needs to explain to me how this happened."

[Pacifist Patriot]

6. His face doesn't even look real.

When is this surreal nauseating nightmare going to be over?!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

11. there should be warnings before those photos

[Pacifist Patriot]

12. Exactly!

[QC]

28. Yep, trigger warnings.

[smirkymonkey]

26. That fucking hideous mouth! I just go insane every time I see it.

It makes me feel stabby.

[Thekaspervote]

29. Thank you!! ME TOO..tired of looking at that face. I have suggested here and other places, no pics

We all know who is being referred to!

[Pacifist Patriot]

30. Right there with you. Love that photo.

[tblue37]

8. Don't unsigned bills take effect after a certain time if not vetoed? nt

[Hermit-The-Prog]

13. other way around -- unsigned is a.k.a. pocket veto

If it collects dust on the thing's desk, it fails the same as if vetoed.

[jmowreader]

20. Only if Congress goes sine die befor 10 days are up

Which may happen here; we are close to the end of this Congress.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

23. yeah, I shouldn't just assume they'll go home

Most likely there are some who are trying to calculate which way puts the least blame on them -- adjourn or stay in session.

[jmowreader]

25. Let's work this out...

I believe the bill was sent to Trump on the 19th of December. Nothing SAYS they have to go sine die before January 2 - the next Congress opens on January 3. Unless Trump vetoes the bill, it would become law without his signature on the 29th. If it reached him today it becomes law on the 30th.

Now...if Trump DOES veto it, shit happens a whole lot faster.

Unfortunately, Little Vlad plans to let the government shut down on the 21st - which means all the nonessential government employees would lose a week's pay because of our worthless fuckwad of a so-called president.

[tblue37]

22. Can it be overridden like a veto--or does it just sit in limbo? nt

[Hermit-The-Prog]

24. if congress goes home -- it's dead

If he doesn't sign it or veto it, then:

1. If Congress adjourns before 10 days is up, it's the same as vetoed.
2. If Congress stays in session for the 10 days, and he doesn't return it or veto, then it's law.

Article I:

Section 7.

All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.

Every bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a law, be presented to the President of the United States; if he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the objections at large on their journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the bill, it shall be sent, together with the objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a law. But in all such cases the votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and nays, and the names of the persons voting for and against the bill shall be entered on the journal of each House respectively. If any bill shall not be returned by the President within ten days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a law, in like manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their adjournment prevent its return, in which case it shall not be a law.

Every order, resolution, or vote to which the concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the same shall take effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the rules and limitations prescribed in the case of a bill.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei#section7

[sagetea]

14. Oh that

slob!! He is just loving the power that he can shut down the US government. God, I hate this loser!!!

[George II]

17. When is he leaving for Florida? I hope it's planned for AFTER the shutdown begins...

...and his pilots refuse to fly. Get him stuck in Washington or have him buy his own ticket.

[CloudWatcher]

18. Override?

How close are the votes to override a veto on this?

[SergeStorms]

19. Old "Steel Slats" Trump...

is going to show the American people who's boss! He's going to kick, cry, and play golf until he gets his way. This jerk has no idea how bad the optics are on this stupid stunt. Oh, and Donnie? The Secret Service Agents that make sure no one kills your stupid ass aren't going to get paid until you sign that bill. Just sayin'. How far do you think they're going to stick their necks out for you when you're sticking it up their asses? What a complete jackass.

Fuck off, "Steel Slats".

[yuiyoshida]

21. I can't wait till its "Mueller Time"

I want to see him in an orange jump suit!

[Vinca]

31. Democrats being interviewed need to say "Trump shutdown" in every sentence when being interviewed

on television and also that he is breaking his promise about Mexico paying for the wall.