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Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 03:34 PM Dec 2018

Trump put himself in a box. Without the wall he has done nothing for the base and will get clobbered

in the next election. This is how much of the base is going to react:

Coulter, who has clashed with Trump over the wall in the past, told The Daily Caller that without the wall, the linchpin of his 2016 presidential campaign, Trump will “just have been a joke presidency who scammed the American people, amused the populist for a while, but he’ll have no legacy whatsoever.”


"My prediction is his support will evaporate and Trump will very likely not finish his term and definitely not be elected to a second term,” Coulter told The Daily Caller.


https://www.ajc.com/news/ann-coulter-rips-trump-for-failing-build-border-wall/63GJEDYSRKZzGxm7YvtKiI/?fbclid=IwAR2RisFNQUeA3-YwiWvGn6x-Jr9trxeTbkkqVHggKpEreurwmg3GyGMy08M


So he probably sees shutting down the Gov. as his only option.


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Trump put himself in a box. Without the wall he has done nothing for the base and will get clobbered (Original Post) Quixote1818 Dec 2018 OP
That's why he's done a 180 on it. bearsfootball516 Dec 2018 #1
Yes, and so the crazy 30% of the Country is holding the rest of us hostage right now. Quixote1818 Dec 2018 #2
Not because of trump over promising but because of people's lack of involvment Fullduplexxx Dec 2018 #9
They knew what they were doing. Grammy23 Dec 2018 #3
If you ask me Andy823 Dec 2018 #4
So how long before he blinks? ooky Dec 2018 #5
Ann actually nailed it. Girard442 Dec 2018 #6
Hey Hans, did you hear what Ann Coulter said? underpants Dec 2018 #7
Coulter is irrelevant to everyone anymore HopeAgain Dec 2018 #8
Read my Lips. No matter what. C_U_L8R Dec 2018 #10
He's going to lie! Ciaphas Cain Dec 2018 #11
The base will eat up whatever he gives them awesomerwb1 Dec 2018 #12
They didn't vote for Trump... they voted for "not a Democrat" meadowlander Dec 2018 #13

bearsfootball516

(6,372 posts)
1. That's why he's done a 180 on it.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 03:36 PM
Dec 2018

He was getting slammed on Fox and Friends. Limbaugh was destroying him. Conservative pundits were saying it was going to be his "Read my lips" moment. Coulter eviscerated him. People on conservative message boards were saying that if he signed it, they would not be voting for him in 2020 and staying home.

It was shut down the government or lose the base.

Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
2. Yes, and so the crazy 30% of the Country is holding the rest of us hostage right now.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 03:39 PM
Dec 2018

because of Trump's over promising. Never promise a lion more than you can deliver.

Fullduplexxx

(7,839 posts)
9. Not because of trump over promising but because of people's lack of involvment
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 03:59 PM
Dec 2018

Every loves the great man theory out of lazyness . All i have to do us get one great man elected then sit back . President trump can promise all he wants but he's only the president you need congress to deliver .
Anyone paying attention knew this man was a fraud but to those low-info voters he was gonna be the great man to fix it all .

People who werent engaged in process let themselves get fooled and dragged us all down with them

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
3. They knew what they were doing.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 03:40 PM
Dec 2018

They called him everything from weak to being a woose . They knew that would get his hackles up enough to veto what the Senate sent over. I don’t believe for a minute they meant anything other than to manipulate him to beat his chest and play the big shot. He is probably strutting around the White House like he owns the place. tRumpolini, indeed.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
4. If you ask me
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 03:43 PM
Dec 2018

It already is a joke presidency that scammed the American people, amused the populist for a while, but will have no legacy whatsoever.

And one that was fully supported by the Russians, and made possible by Putin!

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
8. Coulter is irrelevant to everyone anymore
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 03:58 PM
Dec 2018

I see the Trumpers who are hanging on as enablers of Trump and will likely buy whatever excuse he gives on the wall. Hell, some of them are already ponying up at gofundme. These are the same people who thought Mexico was going to pay for it.

C_U_L8R

(44,972 posts)
10. Read my Lips. No matter what.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 04:00 PM
Dec 2018

Trump is screwed. He promised the American people that they wouldn’t get stuck with the bill for his dumbass wall. And looks like it’s costing us no matter what. There’s no win for him or us or anyone. What a fucking idiot.

Ciaphas Cain

(124 posts)
11. He's going to lie!
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 04:20 PM
Dec 2018

He's going to put a fresh coat of paint on the fence that's already there and declare victory. Also he's probably going to take credit for the Rio Grande being there. Oh and the desert is very hot and difficult to traverse, which is also going to be touted as a triumph.

His base won't question it because they have nothing else to believe in.

awesomerwb1

(4,263 posts)
12. The base will eat up whatever he gives them
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 05:08 PM
Dec 2018

He'll blame the Dems and the base will be happy to go along with that.

meadowlander

(4,386 posts)
13. They didn't vote for Trump... they voted for "not a Democrat"
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 05:11 PM
Dec 2018

because that's what Fox news and Ann Coulter and their local pastor told them to do.

I don't think they're going to turn on Trump because he doesn't build and wall or because Mexico doesn't pay for it.

They're going to turn on Trump when they stop making money and use not building the wall as an excuse.

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