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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 10:40 AM Dec 2018

Told Ya, This Was A SCAM --- Border wall GoFundMe may need to issue refunds after millions raised

A grassroots online campaign to fund President Trump’s proposed border wall roared past $8.7 million on Thursday, but questions remained about whether the feds would be able to accept the gift.

As of Thursday evening, 143,821 people had donated $8,742,182 toward Air Force veteran Brian Kolfage’s GoFundMe campaign, titled We the People Will Fund the Wall, just a little over three days after its launch.

The pledge drive aims to raise $1 billion to “uphold our laws, and get this wall BUILT!” Kolfage, a Purple Heart recipient who lost both legs and an arm in Iraq, wrote on the campaign’s web page. “It’s up to Americans to help out and pitch in to get this project rolling.”

Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), chair of the House Judiciary Committee and a longtime proponent of tighter border security, hailed the vet’s “impressive” campaign, even as he expressed reservations about allowing private citizens to govern with their wallets.

“I think it’s admirable, and I think that the country should respond,” Goodlatte told The Post. “Obviously, we can’t let citizens raise money and say, ‘The government will spend my money on this purpose.’ ”


According to the Treasury Department, general donations to the feds are directed to a “Gifts to the United States” fund, set aside for “general use” by the federal government or “budget needs.”

Specific federal agencies can’t touch this funding without a congressional appropriation.

Some agencies can accept gifts directly for earmarked purposes, but it was not clear if the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the borders, was among them.

The DHS did not immediately respond to a request for clarification.

Furthermore, GoFundMe’s terms of service prohibit “not using funds for their stated purpose,” meaning that if the DHS were unable to accept the windfall, Kolfage may have to reimburse his campaign’s donors.
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Told Ya, This Was A SCAM --- Border wall GoFundMe may need to issue refunds after millions raised (Original Post) LovingA2andMI Dec 2018 OP
I can't imagine something associated with Trump is a scam! manor321 Dec 2018 #1
I'm glad someone handed Goodlatte a copy of the appropriations regs BumRushDaShow Dec 2018 #2
Also, the guy is a conspiracy theorist manor321 Dec 2018 #3
It's my understanding that Pelosi would have to put forth an appropriations bill detailing its WeekiWater Dec 2018 #4
That would... LovingA2andMI Dec 2018 #5
She should earmark it as aid to immigrant families. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #15
wouldn't that be poetic justice? luvallpeeps Dec 2018 #18
You can "gift" money to the government GusBob Dec 2018 #6
Obviously we can let citizens tell the government how to spend money... CincyDem Dec 2018 #7
I can't read that in any other voice than the Oz doorman's voice. Iggo Dec 2018 #9
"...expressed reservations about allowing private citizens to govern with their wallets..." Iggo Dec 2018 #8
From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Dec 2018 #10
ROFL! Cha Dec 2018 #19
Dear Goodlatte - the government spends private money as instructed EVERY DAY KentuckyWoman Dec 2018 #11
It is a scam Progressive dog Dec 2018 #12
Running Numbers modrepub Dec 2018 #13
i say let it go and be deposited into the "gifts" fund.... Takket Dec 2018 #14
Trump can use it for bail money! Initech Dec 2018 #16
I'm shocked!!! Initech Dec 2018 #17

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
2. I'm glad someone handed Goodlatte a copy of the appropriations regs
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 10:45 AM
Dec 2018


There is a complete disconnect regarding the reason behind why federal taxes are collected. The funds are used to pay for services in an organized fashion and not at the whim of a few nuts who want to "donate" for some cause.
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
4. It's my understanding that Pelosi would have to put forth an appropriations bill detailing its
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 10:48 AM
Dec 2018

expenditures as being for the wall. Good luck.

CincyDem

(6,347 posts)
7. Obviously we can let citizens tell the government how to spend money...
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:03 AM
Dec 2018


...that's what corporations and fat cat donors are for. If, instead of raising this money to actually pay for the wall (excuse me while I roll on the floor laughing hysterically), they had raised 5 million dollars to donate to candidates inciting them to vote for the wall...well...THAT'S a horse of a different color !

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
11. Dear Goodlatte - the government spends private money as instructed EVERY DAY
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:35 PM
Dec 2018

Ask the Koch brothers and Citizens united.

modrepub

(3,493 posts)
13. Running Numbers
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:20 PM
Dec 2018

Let's just unpack this a bit.

So this effort has raised $12.1M in 5 days or roughly $2.42M/day. Goal was $1.0B so at the current trajectory that would take 413 days or about 15 months. If they wanted to fund what Trump is asking for in the current budget, $5.0B, that would take 2,066 days or 5 1/2 years. If we use Homeland Security's wall estimate of $21.7B then that would take 8,967 days or 24 1/2 years if they could keep donations at their current pace.

For comparison's sake the State of Delaware's latest budget was for $4.1B. For Idaho it was $3.5B.

Takket

(21,552 posts)
14. i say let it go and be deposited into the "gifts" fund....
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:25 PM
Dec 2018

and the House can pass an appropriations bill designating all the money from the GFM be provided as additional funding for Planned Parenthood.

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