How We Get To President Pelosi

[ChoppinBroccoli]

Whenever people have discussed this possibility before, I always considered it pretty much a fantasy, because I figured even if/when we get Trump out, Pence will just name his VP and we'll never actually be able to get to Pelosi. But there is a very realistic way it can happen. I actually just learned this tonight (and I'm actually pretty embarrassed I didn't know it before, since I consider myself pretty knowledgeable when it comes to the Constitution). While listening to a radio show tonight, the host mentioned that according to the 25th Amendment, if the President leaves office and the Vice President takes over, then the only way for the Vice President's position to be filled is get approval from the House AND the Senate (not just the Senate).

So that means if the Mueller Report comes out (hopefully in February, as has been rumored) and it's so damning that Trump is ousted from office (whether he resigns or is impeached), then Pence becomes President. Pence can't immediately fill the Vice President position unless his pick gets approved by the House AND the Senate, and I think we all know that his pick won't be approved in the House. So the VP spot will essentially remain empty (kinda like Merrick Garland's Supreme Court seat). If the Mueller Report also contains enough dirt on Pence to get rid of him too (as I suspect it will), then when he goes, we have.........President Pelosi.

[kysrsoze]

1. Wouldn't that be a dream? She's be awesome.

It could happen.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

11. If the FBI and IRS would get off of their overpaid asses and bust the entire Teflon Don syndicate...

Nancy would already be president.

[BigmanPigman]

2. Pence will be short lived since he is involved in Russian crimes too.

[Cary]

3. I posted something similar and incurred the wrath of nabobs

Aim high. Nothing to lose and it will help if nothing else to get us to 2020.

[unblock]

4. It's true that the house could keep the veep spot vacant. However,

Then how does pence get removed?

We're back to no way in hell republicans will cooperate to remove him if it means handling the white house over to pelosi or any democrat.

Best hope for a pelosi presidency still involves at least one of them dying.

[Jarqui]

5. If the Republicans choice is impeach either Trump or Pence to get Pelosi

as President or not to impeach, which way Republicans will vote?

Ask yourself honestly.

Republicans have been stealing the White since at least Nixon's days.

They will NEVER vote impeachment to allow Pelosi or a Democrat to become president.

[RDANGELO]

6. We would need to be very careful that it doesn't look like blackmail.

When Spiro Agnew was forced out, the Democrats controlled both houses, and they let him select a Republican for that reason. It might have boomeranged on them in 76. The only way we would get away with it, is if it fell into our laps, with both Pense and Trump being impeached all at once upon Mueller report. It would have to be so bad that the Republicans would go along with it.

[Trenzalore]

7. It's possible

More likely that Pence would get to name someone as part of a deal to leave office.

You need 19 republican senators to agree to impeachment and it is a political process not a legal one.

If the market continues to fall and we start to go into a recession I can see the republicans turning on Trump and getting the 19 votes to remove from office. Politically I don't see where you get to a point where Pelosi ascends to the Presidency unless Mueller presents evidence of Pence in a child sex ring.

[regnaD kciN]

8. Not a snowball's chance in hell...

The only way Republicans would remove Trump is if they were confident a Republican would replace him. If Trump were ousted, Pence became President, and the Democratic House refused to confirm his V.P. pick, it wouldn't matter what crimes he was accused of nor how much evidence there was, the Republican majority in the Senate would never vote to convict him if it meant a Democrat, let alone their bogeyman Pelosi, were to take the reins. I have no doubt (because this is exactly what happened when Agnew had to resign during Watergate) that the message from Senate Republicans would be "confirm our V.P. pick, or Pence will be acquitted, period."

Please get over this fantasy-world notion that there's a single scenario in the world where Nancy Pelosi could ascend to the Presidency through a series of impeachments. The simple fact is that, without a Democratic supermajority (67 votes) in the Senate, once the 2016 Electoral College vote was certified, we were destined to have a Republican President until January 20, 2021 at the very earliest. Sorry, but them's the facts.

[Stonepounder]

9. Yeah, but its a nice dream isn't it?

We've got to ourselves some hope for:

There's a great, big, beautiful tomorrow
Shining at the end of every day
There's a great, big, beautiful tomorrow
And tomorrow's just a dream away

[DFW]

10. Religious fanatics never go quietly.

Pence will be more like Jim Jones and less like Spiro Agnew. Don't look for him to go quietly, no matter what he has done.