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OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 02:58 PM Dec 2018

If Trump is impeached, is there a 2/3 majority in the Senate that would remove him from office?

When Bill Clinton was impeached, he was saved from removal by the Senate trial and carried on as President. Would the same happen with Trump?

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If Trump is impeached, is there a 2/3 majority in the Senate that would remove him from office? (Original Post) OnlinePoker Dec 2018 OP
Not yet. JenniferJuniper Dec 2018 #1
...but it's getting closer. regnaD kciN Dec 2018 #6
I felt the same Andy823 Dec 2018 #13
What Will Untimately Sink Him Is... smb Dec 2018 #18
but day by day things improve for US, and deteriorate for him. elleng Dec 2018 #19
That depends on how the Republicans in the Senate MineralMan Dec 2018 #2
This is why we need to concentrate on the ones not up for re-elections until 2022 question everything Dec 2018 #4
Just wait. ginnyinWI Dec 2018 #3
Would he run again mainstreetonce Dec 2018 #5
I believe, if you're impeached and convicted, you're barred from public office... regnaD kciN Dec 2018 #7
The poster was likely talking about if he was impeached but not convicted Polybius Dec 2018 #17
If he's impeached but not found guilty by the Senate? In a heart beat OnlinePoker Dec 2018 #9
Senate GOPers need a good enough excuse/argument which still allows them a re-election primary win RockRaven Dec 2018 #8
Their excuse/argument would be President Pence. TSheehan Dec 2018 #15
Who gives a shit edhopper Dec 2018 #10
There are zero Republicans in the Senate that would vote to remove him from office oberliner Dec 2018 #11
Not yet jberryhill Dec 2018 #12
Yes. It's a process, elleng Dec 2018 #21
Nope, unfortunately TSheehan Dec 2018 #14
I'd like someone to start a giant digital billboard in DC showing how many Sens are in favor of NightWatcher Dec 2018 #16
NOT a good idea. They have to 'evolve,' elleng Dec 2018 #23
Are you sure? NightWatcher Dec 2018 #31
Can't answer that. Can't determine by what GOP Sens say (or don't say) publicly. Claritie Pixie Dec 2018 #20
Right, but it's happening. elleng Dec 2018 #22
Agree. Claritie Pixie Dec 2018 #24
No and we have people like Joe Manchin that wouldn't vote for it either nt doc03 Dec 2018 #25
I don't think... Mike Nelson Dec 2018 #26
Doesn't matter Fiendish Thingy Dec 2018 #27
What if we're still in a shut-down after Jan 3rd? PhrankT Dec 2018 #28
Not yet workinclasszero Dec 2018 #29
The Republicans stood strongly with Nixon gratuitous Dec 2018 #30

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
6. ...but it's getting closer.
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 03:03 PM
Dec 2018

Until recently, I thought there was no way that sufficient Republican senators would ever turn against Trump. Now, I’m not so sure. I think the Syria/Mattis fiasco has had significant impact — as have signs the economy may be headed into recession.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
13. I felt the same
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 03:18 PM
Dec 2018

And like you I am think that things might be changing. I still think some of the republicans in the Senate may be compromised either from taking Russian money, or that Russia has something on them. I do believe Russia hacked the republicans, just like they did the Democrats.

What it will take is for republicans to realize just how much more damage trump is going to do to the county, and decide no matter what, the country comes first. I am just not sure how many will find that come to Jesus moment before it's too late.

smb

(3,471 posts)
18. What Will Untimately Sink Him Is...
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 03:34 PM
Dec 2018

...big-money donors losing mega-millions to the #TrumpSlump calling the GOP "leadership" and telling them in no uncertain terms to get rid of the temper-tantrum throwing toddler.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
19. but day by day things improve for US, and deteriorate for him.
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 03:37 PM
Dec 2018

Part of the deterioration is himself, which he can't help, being as impaired as he is.

Congressional repugs are noticing it, and will continue to do so.

Polybius

(15,390 posts)
17. The poster was likely talking about if he was impeached but not convicted
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 03:30 PM
Dec 2018

If he was convicted, there's no way he would win a primary against a sitting President Pence, even if he could run again (which he probably can't)

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
9. If he's impeached but not found guilty by the Senate? In a heart beat
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 03:09 PM
Dec 2018

Sociopaths don't care what anybody thinks of them as long as they get their way.

RockRaven

(14,961 posts)
8. Senate GOPers need a good enough excuse/argument which still allows them a re-election primary win
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 03:06 PM
Dec 2018

and then they just might go for it -- given what Trump's tariffs and the shutdown and Fed criticism have done to the stock market and what his decisions in the Middle East and Europe and the Pacific have done for national security, I don't think they are very happy having him as POTUS -- so a Mueller report showing frankly traitorous behavior would be a good start.

edhopper

(33,575 posts)
10. Who gives a shit
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 03:10 PM
Dec 2018

we can't let crimes go unchecked. When he is found to have committed multiple felonies and conspired with a foriegn power, we must impeach.
Let it be on their heads.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. Not yet
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 03:14 PM
Dec 2018

These threads seem to usually miss the fact that’s minds - even dim and stubborn ones - can change.

There is much yet to be revealed.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
21. Yes. It's a process,
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 03:40 PM
Dec 2018

which many ignore or forget. (Process easier for those in the legal profession than others, obviously.)

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
16. I'd like someone to start a giant digital billboard in DC showing how many Sens are in favor of
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 03:26 PM
Dec 2018

and who they are by name.

I can assume we'd start on Jan 3 with 47 in favor of, with only 19 to flip. Then every time he does something horrible he can watch his jury decide his fate via a flashing billboard aimed at the WH.









Does this mean I have to go start the GoFundMe now?

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
31. Are you sure?
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 04:50 PM
Dec 2018

I think every time he does something horrible or another crime comes out, we should be able to "treason shame" or some other word to put pressure on the repuke senate members. We must shame the pukes and threaten them any way we can.

Plus, imagine the pressure it'd put on dingleberry donnie, if he saw a crawling tally, slowly
and then in spurts making its way to 67.

Mike Nelson

(9,953 posts)
26. I don't think...
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 04:00 PM
Dec 2018

… so, presently. There are not 67 votes to convict. Hopefully, the investigations will have an impact and Republicans will want to convict him... Even if there are not votes to convict, the Democrats should impeach later in the next year - just to have that on record.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,596 posts)
27. Doesn't matter
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 04:20 PM
Dec 2018

Impeachment is the right thing to do, to protect the country, protect the Constitution, to speak out against what's wrong, and stand up for what's right. I categorically reject the premise that impeachment without conviction will damage the Dems in 2020. On the contrary, I think impeachment hearings will fire up the voters, especially young progressives, leading into the primaries.

The only thing that matters is the timing. Give the new Congress time for some scorching hearings and investigations, wait for the release (or suppression) of Meuller's final report, then proceed with impeachment hearings. Late summer/early fall 2019 would be just about right. A senate trial that dragged on into the 2020 primaries would be delightful, and may give a boost to any GOP challengers to Trump. If McConnel quashes a trial without an up or down vote to convict, then I wonder if the new Dem majority in the incoming 2021 senate could initiate a trial?

I'll bet by this time next year, there will be some GOP senators supporting impeachment.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
30. The Republicans stood strongly with Nixon
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 04:40 PM
Dec 2018

Until the moment they didn't. It was 10 months from the Saturday night massacre in October 1973 until Nixon's resignation in August 1974. When the partisan dam finally broke, it went fast.

I sense that there are Republicans in the Senate who would just as soon be shut of Trump, but they don't dare buck their caucus. Yet. As more information comes out, and as Trump gets more and more out of control, there's going to be a key Republican Senator who says, "Enough."

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