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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf Trump is impeached, is there a 2/3 majority in the Senate that would remove him from office?
When Bill Clinton was impeached, he was saved from removal by the Senate trial and carried on as President. Would the same happen with Trump?
JenniferJuniper
(4,511 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)Until recently, I thought there was no way that sufficient Republican senators would ever turn against Trump. Now, Im not so sure. I think the Syria/Mattis fiasco has had significant impact as have signs the economy may be headed into recession.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)And like you I am think that things might be changing. I still think some of the republicans in the Senate may be compromised either from taking Russian money, or that Russia has something on them. I do believe Russia hacked the republicans, just like they did the Democrats.
What it will take is for republicans to realize just how much more damage trump is going to do to the county, and decide no matter what, the country comes first. I am just not sure how many will find that come to Jesus moment before it's too late.
smb
(3,471 posts)...big-money donors losing mega-millions to the #TrumpSlump calling the GOP "leadership" and telling them in no uncertain terms to get rid of the temper-tantrum throwing toddler.
elleng
(130,865 posts)Part of the deterioration is himself, which he can't help, being as impaired as he is.
Congressional repugs are noticing it, and will continue to do so.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)evaluate their re-election chances.
question everything
(47,473 posts)or 2024
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Let the Mueller report come out and then let's see how many we have.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)As an already impeached president?
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)Polybius
(15,390 posts)If he was convicted, there's no way he would win a primary against a sitting President Pence, even if he could run again (which he probably can't)
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)Sociopaths don't care what anybody thinks of them as long as they get their way.
RockRaven
(14,961 posts)and then they just might go for it -- given what Trump's tariffs and the shutdown and Fed criticism have done to the stock market and what his decisions in the Middle East and Europe and the Pacific have done for national security, I don't think they are very happy having him as POTUS -- so a Mueller report showing frankly traitorous behavior would be a good start.
TSheehan
(277 posts)edhopper
(33,575 posts)we can't let crimes go unchecked. When he is found to have committed multiple felonies and conspired with a foriegn power, we must impeach.
Let it be on their heads.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)These threads seem to usually miss the fact thats minds - even dim and stubborn ones - can change.
There is much yet to be revealed.
elleng
(130,865 posts)which many ignore or forget. (Process easier for those in the legal profession than others, obviously.)
TSheehan
(277 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)and who they are by name.
I can assume we'd start on Jan 3 with 47 in favor of, with only 19 to flip. Then every time he does something horrible he can watch his jury decide his fate via a flashing billboard aimed at the WH.
Does this mean I have to go start the GoFundMe now?
elleng
(130,865 posts)and do so gradually, without being embarrassed.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)I think every time he does something horrible or another crime comes out, we should be able to "treason shame" or some other word to put pressure on the repuke senate members. We must shame the pukes and threaten them any way we can.
Plus, imagine the pressure it'd put on dingleberry donnie, if he saw a crawling tally, slowly
and then in spurts making its way to 67.
Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)elleng
(130,865 posts)Claritie Pixie
(2,199 posts)doc03
(35,326 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,953 posts)
so, presently. There are not 67 votes to convict. Hopefully, the investigations will have an impact and Republicans will want to convict him... Even if there are not votes to convict, the Democrats should impeach later in the next year - just to have that on record.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,596 posts)Impeachment is the right thing to do, to protect the country, protect the Constitution, to speak out against what's wrong, and stand up for what's right. I categorically reject the premise that impeachment without conviction will damage the Dems in 2020. On the contrary, I think impeachment hearings will fire up the voters, especially young progressives, leading into the primaries.
The only thing that matters is the timing. Give the new Congress time for some scorching hearings and investigations, wait for the release (or suppression) of Meuller's final report, then proceed with impeachment hearings. Late summer/early fall 2019 would be just about right. A senate trial that dragged on into the 2020 primaries would be delightful, and may give a boost to any GOP challengers to Trump. If McConnel quashes a trial without an up or down vote to convict, then I wonder if the new Dem majority in the incoming 2021 senate could initiate a trial?
I'll bet by this time next year, there will be some GOP senators supporting impeachment.
PhrankT
(113 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)But who knows what the new year is going to bring.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Until the moment they didn't. It was 10 months from the Saturday night massacre in October 1973 until Nixon's resignation in August 1974. When the partisan dam finally broke, it went fast.
I sense that there are Republicans in the Senate who would just as soon be shut of Trump, but they don't dare buck their caucus. Yet. As more information comes out, and as Trump gets more and more out of control, there's going to be a key Republican Senator who says, "Enough."