I see the Russian Trollmeisters have decided a Bernie vs. Beto war is to their benefit.

[TygrBright]

It was, perhaps, inevitable.

I just wish they weren't getting so much volunteer help.

wearily,
Bright

[dogman]

1. They sure seem to have NBC on their side.

There's not enough real news to report.

[Wellstone ruled]

11. Yes sir,especially Chuckie Toad.

[elmac]

15. Comcast is an F'ing monopoly who would side with russia in a heartbeat if it means more profit nt

[LakeArenal]

2. That's one of the problems with declaring early...

Big target until they smear you or someone more likely target enters the race. 🎯

[Paka]

23. Am I missing something?

I realize because I am out of the country and don't tweet that I'm often behind on news updates, but I haven't seen where either Beto or Bernie have officially declared. The media is doing a lot of the declaring at the moment.

[LakeArenal]

29. Well, expressed a serious interest.

The more the public talks Beto the bigger the target to smear.
Having said that, Beto is an exciting prospect.

[JI7]

30. many people have expressed interest

[LakeArenal]

38. Okay you win. Beto won't be a target for a rw smear campaign.

Merry Christmas and sign me out.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

127. But Beto votes with the Republicans so much

that he's not really a progressive. Shouldn't that make Republicans happy?

[mucifer]

3. I agree. I just ignore the posts about it in here.

Not the posters I just don't pay attention to the posts.

[elleng]

4. sadly, and many 'observers' are running with it.

[Gothmog]

48. From Prof Tribe

Link to tweet

[Cha]

97. Yeah, these BS fan attacks on Beto are not fooling

Laurence Tribe or John Aravosis for one second.

Link to tweet

Thanks, Goth.

[Cha]

98. You know what's really sad? Those denying reality..

Nomiki Konst, a progressive activist and 2016 Sanders supporter who is now running for public advocate in New York City, said liberal activists mostly kept quiet about their concerns over O'Rourke's record, including the backing he got from the centrist Blue Dog Democrats, before he lost a Texas Senate race to Republican Ted Cruz in November.

"They sucked it up while he was running" because they wanted him to win, Konst said. "But now it’s a different story."

Link to tweet

Not Russian.

[Qutzupalotl]

5. Beware of efforts to divide

and emotions flaring for no discernable reason. These are often the hallmarks of manipulation.

We are a big site in Google rankings, so we are a target. Lots of people lurk, so the examples we set and the ideas we generate reverberate wider than one might think.

[JudyM]

17. +1.

[susanna]

47. So much this! n/t

[Cha]

99. I see it all the time..

Nomiki Konst, a progressive activist and 2016 Sanders supporter who is now running for public advocate in New York City, said liberal activists mostly kept quiet about their concerns over O'Rourke's record, including the backing he got from the centrist Blue Dog Democrats, before he lost a Texas Senate race to Republican Ted Cruz in November.

"They sucked it up while he was running" because they wanted him to win, Konst said. "But now it’s a different story."

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[redstatebluegirl]

130. Amen Cha!

[Bucky]

117. Amen

Besides the trolls, who are bad enough, there's also those well-meaning, but easely diverted, Democrats who are so agitated and hungry to tear into Trump in 2020 that they're willing to tear into a potentially weak Democrat now.

I sometimes wonder if a little bit of negative campaigning is good practice for a potential nominee, but for right now I think we do best to see which Democrats are good at getting voters excited.

[beachbum bob]

6. its all about creating division and unfortunately we still have people who will fall for it

[Andy823]

60. Exactly!

The same trolls keep posting bull shit, and the same people take the bait day in and day out. The best way to deal with trolls is not to feed them. Their only goal here is to stir shit up, just like they did in 2016.

[Yosemito]

7. Russian trolls don't like Beto

Their preference has been clear since 2016, as Mueller and intelligence agencies have noted.

[TomCADem]

41. Or Kamala, or Biden...

...or any Democrat has stood up to Russia and stood up for America and the rights of Americans to vote and let their voices be heard free of interference from those countries that would promote a US at war with itself and isolated from trade and treaties with its neighbors. A Democrat who will push back on the populist push against “globalism.”

[beachbum bob]

67. russian bots don't care, its about creating a divide and it was easy to do so with far left of the

democratic party as they always look for a reason to take their ball home, just like 2000

[DemocracyMouse]

72. Beto, Biden + B. Sanders have the highest poll numbers, therefore they aren't "far left."

(They are right in the center. They represent a shift towards progressive, humane values that has been trending since Bush II.)

[Bucky]

118. Sure, 18 months out from the nomination

I think we can let those poles stew 10 or 11 months before taking any of them seriously. I'm so eager to see which woman breaks out from the pack. I was convinced it would be Harris, but Klobuchar seems to be making smart moves. I find both of them appealing candidates

[DemocracyMouse]

120. Can we talk about issues, not the horse race?

I was discussing how the public has moved towards the left (i.e. it’s a more informed, high-information voting public) and I questioned the characterization of Bernie et al as “far left.” Tell me precisely how your candidates are addressing real issues, not whether they play the game well or whether they fall into a gender category. What are their positions on guns, tax loopholes favoring the overpaid, green issues, etc.

Can we leave it to the MSM for horse race talk?

[yardwork]

8. Agree 100%

[Cha]

92. And, yet..

Nomiki Konst, a progressive activist and 2016 Sanders supporter who is now running for public advocate in New York City, said liberal activists mostly kept quiet about their concerns over O'Rourke's record, including the backing he got from the centrist Blue Dog Democrats, before he lost a Texas Senate race to Republican Ted Cruz in November.

"They sucked it up while he was running" because they wanted him to win, Konst said. "But now it’s a different story."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/inside-bernie-world-s-war-beto-o-rourke-n951016

Link to tweet

yardwork

[sharedvalues]

9. Rightwing media trolls are even bigger

Fox, Limbaugh, Daily Caller, Breitbart feed this tooo.

[Nictuku]

10. My thoughts precisely!

Don't take the bait!

[Ferrets are Cool]

12. K and R

[left-of-center2012]

13. agree

100%

[elmac]

14. yes, and lets not fall for this crap, again, by posting so called media reports about

who is F'ing who, DU should ban all this infighting crap.

[JudyM]

18. +1.

There’s a rule but some continue jumping in every chance they get.

[customerserviceguy]

16. This

is one of the biggest problems we face in the next couple of years. Accusations will fly freely over whoever gets a bit of a leg up in the race to the nomination.

Unless a front-runner emerges quickly and stays in that position, we run the risk of tearing each other apart while Drumpf laughs.

[Cha]

19. BS' acolytes at The Gatheriing decided to

start a war on Beto.

Link to tweet

[R B Garr]

27. Yes, I remember the war on Feinstein, too. The wars

that went on this past election. We know who is being divisive and who they hope it helps. We won’t fall for the “both sides” distraction. We know who Beto is a threat to.

[Cha]

31. No other possible potus

candidates are attacking Beto.. only BS' fans.

[R B Garr]

43. Exactly, with the same formulaic tactics. nt

[Kahuna7]

66. They're attacking Beto and Kamala. nt

[Cha]

68. Yes, Kamala, too.. of course they are!

[UTUSN]

20. Excellent point!

[Power 2 the People]

21. +1000

[nolabear]

22. Seems everybody's weighed in except Beto.

He hasn’t declared anything. He’s just representing the border areas and being an actual impressive person and everybody is losing it.

[JI7]

24. why is he being targeted ?

[Leith]

28. Because he's popular

It's got so bad that I won't even click on a thread that mentions Bernie, Beto, and whatever the latest big headline is.

It's so damn tiresome.

[nolabear]

44. It's bad everywhere. My God what a vicious sport politics is now.

[Baltimike]

25. There are a LOT of little tactics like that afoot

it's crazy

[YessirAtsaFact]

26. SQUIRREL! Over there (points)...

Expect any and all kinds of distraction in the next few weeks.

[Catch2.2]

32. Exactly!!!!

Same crap. Let's not fall for it this time.

[912gdm]

33. At least Beto is a democrat.

n/t.

[PatrickforO]

34. I looked at a bunch of the Latest Threads and saw nothing about either

Bernie or Beto.

But on the Hill, I saw this: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/422674-sanders-supporters-deny-coordinated-attacks-on-orourkes-progressive

You all know, we do tend to create circular firing squads. In 2020 I will not be supporting Bernie if he runs, simply because we need some new blood.

I'm thinking the smears are because Beto is seen at this point as a strong Democratic contender who could probably win the general election. And, you know, let's get the oil and gas contributions out of the way from the get-go. Beto is in TX, for God's sake. The whole state is a huge oil well. Of course the industry will hedge its bets. They gave Cruz more.

You know the real problem? The media loves a horse race because it raises ratings which produces more profit. See, they are the major cash customer for the super pacs created through Citizens United. So if you all think the media hates Citizens United, think again. That ruling has made political campaigns a giant cash cow for companies like Comcast (see and support Elizabeth Warren's 'Accountable Capitalism Act' she introduced earlier this year.) Here's a couple of links. This is an Act worth massive support from Democratic rank and file.

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/15/17683022/elizabeth-warren-accountable-capitalism-corporations (favorable)

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/15/economist-warrens-accountable-capitalism-act-seriously-misguided-.html (OMG, gasp! It's gonna destroy capitalism!)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/15/elizabeth-warren-accountable-capitalism-act-richest-companies (favorable)

Up to us, people. We gotta make it happen in 2020 and not let the Russian trolls fuck us up again. Because they did. Our guys have to take on an 'in your face' aggressive stance in fact checking and squelching rumors.

Next, make it known to your Democratic Senators and Reps, as well as candidates in 2020 that we need to end the media gravy train by ending Citizens United and forcing dissolution of super pacs.

Last, support the National Popular Vote Compact because we need to get rid of the Electoral College.

[George II]

35. There was this on NBC's site this morning:

www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/inside-bernie-world-s-war-beto-o-rourke-n951016

As the Texas congressman's star rises, Sanders supporters turn up the heat: "Reading Karl Marx is cool. Doing a livestream while you’re doing your laundry is a gimmick."

Dec. 23, 2018 / 11:27 AM EST / Updated 8:15 PM EST

By Jonathan Allen and Alex Seitz-Wald

WASHINGTON — Forces loyal to Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders are waging an increasingly public war against Texas Rep. Beto O'Rourke, the new darling of Democratic activists, as the two men weigh whether to seek the party's presidential nomination in 2020.

The main line of attack against O'Rourke is that he isn't progressive enough — that he's been too close to Republicans in Congress, too close to corporate donors and not willing enough to use his star power to help fellow Democrats — and it is being pushed almost exclusively by Sanders supporters online and in print.

It's been the first flashpoint in what promises to be a politically bloody primary — one that has drawn responses from foot soldiers in the Obama and Clinton wings of the party — as Democrats begin to focus on who has the best chance to deny President Donald Trump a second term in the Oval Office.

Nomiki Konst, a progressive activist and 2016 Sanders supporter who is now running for public advocate in New York City, said liberal activists mostly kept quiet about their concerns over O'Rourke's record, including the backing he got from the centrist Blue Dog Democrats, before he lost a Texas Senate race to Republican Ted Cruz in November.

"They sucked it up while he was running" because they wanted him to win, Konst said. "But now it’s a different story."

(more....)

[Cha]

74. Yeah, not buying it's russia.. it's BS fans against Beto. I'm sure

Russia is happy though.

There's the PROOF right there>>>>>>>>>

Nomiki Konst, a progressive activist and 2016 Sanders supporter who is now running for public advocate in New York City, said liberal activists mostly kept quiet about their concerns over O'Rourke's record, including the backing he got from the centrist Blue Dog Democrats, before he lost a Texas Senate race to Republican Ted Cruz in November.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/inside-bernie-world-s-war-beto-o-rourke-n951016

Thanks George.. the link doesn't work, though.. I found it!

[brooklynite]

36. Explain how this is attributable to Russia?

Or is that our answer for any inconvenient news?

[Hekate]

51. Face Book is my reason. They are still infested, Zuck could care less, and the method is to...

...find a wedge issue, any wedge issue on any side, and hammer it in. They play all sides, as long as it divides us. They've even gotten involved in the anti-vaxxer mommy groups. How's that for sick? So online people playing the wide eyed innocent about Beto not being progressive and trying to dig up any old thing from his past is child's play.

[George II]

76. That's why everyone should delete their facebook accounts. I did way back in the summer.

[Cha]

78. Well, this is from a BS activist..

Nomiki Konst, a progressive activist and 2016 Sanders supporter who is now running for public advocate in New York City, said liberal activists mostly kept quiet about their concerns over O'Rourke's record, including the backing he got from the centrist Blue Dog Democrats, before he lost a Texas Senate race to Republican Ted Cruz in November.

"They sucked it up while he was running" because they wanted him to win, Konst said. "But now it’s a different story."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/inside-bernie-world-s-war-beto-o-rourke-n951016

I'm sure Russia is up to their old tricks but so are others.

[Hekate]

94. Yes our friends in the left cannot imagine a greater horror ...

...than being supported by Blue Dog Democrats.

[Cha]

96. Levi Sanders on Beto.. who last I heard is not Russian..

Link to tweet

[Cha]

95. Yes, I'd like to know that, too...

Nomiki Konst, a progressive activist and 2016 Sanders supporter who is now running for public advocate in New York City, said liberal activists mostly kept quiet about their concerns over O'Rourke's record, including the backing he got from the centrist Blue Dog Democrats, before he lost a Texas Senate race to Republican Ted Cruz in November.

"They sucked it up while he was running" because they wanted him to win, Konst said. "But now it’s a different story."

Link to tweet

[Honeycombe8]

37. I guess I missed something. nt

[marlakay]

39. Well I like both so they won't divide me!

In fact most of the people thinking of running I like.

My preference even though I was Bernie last time is to have someone younger so I will support Beto this time.

[spike91nz]

40. Oh pleeeze master Putin

Din’t throw me in that progressive briar patch.

[George II]

42. Even son Levi is in on this now:

Link to tweet

[JI7]

49. Levi is such a bitter fucking asshole

[betsuni]

54. Not that Wall Street crap again.

Ugh.

[Cha]

113. Oh yes.. Vapid, robitic Wall Street 2.0

[R B Garr]

62. LOL, a noun, a verb, and Wall Street...

So inane

Thanks to Biden for that brilliant line about 9/11. Biden/Beto!

[Cha]

88. Haha.. always count on good ol Levi to come up with

something..

Link to tweet

[sarcasmo]

45. Harris/Klobuchar ticket would be ideal.

[Gothmog]

46. CNN-Bernie Sanders supporters Should Worry about Beto

Harry Enten has some good analysis https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/bernie-sanders-beto-orourke-supporters-2020/index.html

The Beto O'Rourke 2020 train seems to be gaining steam. Those backing other potential candidates want donors and pundits to slow their Beto roll, however.

Among the most prominent critics are supporters of Vermont independent Sen. Bernie Sanders who believes the Texan isn't progressive enough.

Sanders fans have at least some reason to worry. O'Rourke or really any other candidate with outsider appeal could eat into Sanders' base of young, independent-leaning voters.

If Sanders is going to win in 2020, he'll need to hold onto his support from 2016. He won more than 40% of the national primary vote, though he lost by low double-digits to Clinton national

[irresistable]

55. There is nothing to worry about.

We don't know who is actually going to run. It is possible that neither Beto nor Bernie will run.

It will all sort itself out.

[Gothmog]

101. I personally do not believe that sanders is running

I personally doubt that sanders will comply with the new DNC rule that will require sanders to state in writing that he (i) is an actual member of the Democratic party, (ii) will run as a member of the Democratic Party and (iii) will govern as a member of the Democratic Party if elected. The new DNC rule will force sanders to take actions that he has refused to commit to in the past. In addition, to get onto the ballot in Maryland and a couple of blue states, sanders will have to release full and complete copies of five or ten years of tax returns. I doubt that sanders will do this.

In the meantime, these attacks on Beto and Senator Harris by sanders supporters are not good for the party

[irresistable]

114. The "attacks" have been based on votes and policy.

Last edited Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:22 PM - Edit history (1)

It is better for candidates to be forced to express their rationale for their votes or actions sooner rather than later.

This is politics.

[Gothmog]

132. This NYT article explains why sanders and his supporters are worried about Beto

Link to tweet

Further, the political consulting firm led by three of Mr. Sanders’s top digital aides from the last campaign — Kenneth Pennington, Hector Sigala and Elizabeth Bennett — worked for Mr. O’Rourke’s Senate bid and are hoping to work on his presidential campaign should he run, according to a Democratic strategist familiar with the firm’s thinking.

Two veterans of Mr. Sanders’s 2016 campaign, Becky Bond and Zack Malitz, were instrumental this year in helping to organize Mr. O’Rourke’s race against Senator Ted Cruz. Both said they are eager to be a part of any “Beto for President’’ effort.

“I don’t know if Beto is going to run, but if he does I’m all in,” said Ms. Bond.

Mr. Malitz added: “I want Beto to run and would want to work on that campaign.”

[irresistable]

133. We will see.

There are so many people who are talking about running and I like them all.

It does make me sad that there are some on this site who have such animosity toward a few of the potential candidates.

[Cha]

81. Beto is not the only reason BS fans should "worry"

There are a lot of brilliant energetic Democrats who are going to run.

[Hekate]

50. Well spotted. I just wish...

...that there was not a small volunteer brigade here.

Equally wearily,
Hekate

[Gothmog]

52. Governor Howard Dean works for Russia?

Link to tweet

[Lithos]

53. Agreed

Sad.

Like for both parties to come together and denounce this as just more Russian "Fake News"

[BannonsLiver]

56. Well David Sirota is a clown but I never thought of him as a Russian troll.

[emulatorloo]

57. ...

[JI7]

58. how about levi sanders ?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11586002

[dalton99a]

59. No shit

[Renew Deal]

61. It's all about division and there is no one more divisive than Bernie Sanders

Because the Russians have to put in less work for bigger gain with them. He was their tool of division in2016 and are hoping to have the same tool this time around.

From the convention:

[Paladin]

63. I'll never forget (nor forgive) what the Bernie forces did. (nt)

[Kahuna7]

64. Yep. And some high profile "progressives" are once again....

being played for useful idiots.

[Gothmog]

65. from my twitter feed

Link to tweet

[relayerbob]

69. Can we get Jill Stein involved, too?

[ananda]

70. Nothing will change my mind about Bernie or Beto.

They're both wonderful!

[Iggo]

71. I like both of them!

Yayl

[demmiblue]

73. Same here. n/t

[pwb]

75. They are all over AOC too.

.

[George II]

77. No they're not.

[pwb]

80. What are you alerted whenever AOC is typed.

Clear you don't like her George. Your on every post.

[George II]

84. If you look through the posts here you'll see that I made a few non-"AOC" posts in this thread....

....just before and during you posting that claim. Are you keeping score?

[pwb]

87. AOC is from my state and i think she is great so i read all the posts about her.

And noticed you comment on most of them. Its more of a memory thing than keeping score.

[George II]

91. She's from my home state too (lived there 45 years). In fact, prior to a few redistrictings....

...the one that she'll be representing is the District in which I grew up (from 8 years old to my mid-20s)

You don't have a monopoly on interest in particular politicians who are from your state. But it is bizarre that you took notice.

So, since the Russians are "all over AOC", on what do you base that?

[pwb]

100. Unusual number of so called democrats bad mouthing her for speaking out and

challenging the old guard. Pushing petty little things about her that don't amount to shit. Typical Russian or any troll tactics are to divide the party. I don't have any monopoly on any thoughts but i can pick out negativity when i see it. We are all entitled to our opinions about any politician. My opinion of AOC is to give her a chance, as a democrat i owe her that. Merry Christmas.

[George II]

115. Okay, so how do you feel about a "so called democrat" (your words)....

...who "bad mouths" (again, your words) Joseph Crowley, Tammy Duckworth, Kirsten Gillibrand, and others and who vigorously campaigns against Sharice Davids, Lacy Clay, Andrew Cuomo, Gretchen Whitmer and others?

[pwb]

126. Democrats should only criticize Democrats during primaries. Period.

But you keep up your division. Im done with you george. Feel like your baiting me.

[melman]

109. I agree she's great

And I noticed that too. I'm sure many have.

I mean, how could they not? Amazing how defensive some can get about such obvious things.

[George II]

116. At what?

[melman]

119. What?

Not sure what you're asking there. So sorry.

[George II]

121. Please reread the post to which I responded. Thanks!

[melman]

123. I did

[George II]

124. Then why did you ask "What?" You made a declaration, I asked "At what?". Simple, isn't it?

[melman]

125. Are we pretending we don't know

that 'great' doesn't only means great at something?

Is that the game here? We don't know that it can be used more generally as a term of approval? That's cute.

But okay, if the question is at what do I think she's great, then one thing is she never takes any shit at all from right-wingers.

She's really great at that. I suppose there are some that wouldn't appreciate such a thing but I really do think it's great.

[George II]

128. That's not what any of the posts to which you responded were about. In fact....

....it's not even the subject of the discussion, which is "I see the Russian Trollmeisters have decided a Bernie vs. Beto war is to their benefit."

[melman]

129. What?

I think if you take another look at the the first post I replied to you'll find it expressed a sentiment similar to mine.

That's why I said "I agree".


And with that we are done here. Unless you'd care to explain that sig pic.

[question everything]

134. OMG

[melman]

79. Yes

Constantly.

[Cha]

85. BS surrogates are all over Beto..

Nomiki Konst, a progressive activist and 2016 Sanders supporter who is now running for public advocate in New York City, said liberal activists mostly kept quiet about their concerns over O'Rourke's record, including the backing he got from the centrist Blue Dog Democrats, before he lost a Texas Senate race to Republican Ted Cruz in November.

"They sucked it up while he was running" because they wanted him to win, Konst said. "But now it’s a different story."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/inside-bernie-world-s-war-beto-o-rourke-n951016

[Cha]

82. I don't think you're lookiing at the whole picture.. BS surrogates

are the ones who are "helping".

Nomiki Konst, a progressive activist and 2016 Sanders supporter who is now running for public advocate in New York City, said liberal activists mostly kept quiet about their concerns over O'Rourke's record, including the backing he got from the centrist Blue Dog Democrats, before he lost a Texas Senate race to Republican Ted Cruz in November.

"They sucked it up while he was running" because they wanted him to win, Konst said. "But now it’s a different story."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/inside-bernie-world-s-war-beto-o-rourke-n951016

[demmiblue]

83. I have most of those types on ignore.

It is the same small group (as well as their socks and zombies) that constantly stirs shit year after year.

We have bigger fish to fry, imo.

[Cha]

86. Well, isn't that special.. BS fan Nomiki Konst on Beto..

Nomiki Konst, a progressive activist and 2016 Sanders supporter who is now running for public advocate in New York City, said liberal activists mostly kept quiet about their concerns over O'Rourke's record, including the backing he got from the centrist Blue Dog Democrats, before he lost a Texas Senate race to Republican Ted Cruz in November.

"They sucked it up while he was running" because they wanted him to win, Konst said. "But now it’s a different story."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/inside-bernie-world-s-war-beto-o-rourke-n951016

[GulfCoast66]

89. Russians?

Or the kind of people that booed John Lewis at the convention?

I know where my bets are placed.

[Cha]

93. Yeah, kinda weird trying to blame this all on the Russians.

I'm sure they're happy about it, though.

Nomiki Konst, a progressive activist and 2016 Sanders supporter who is now running for public advocate in New York City, said liberal activists mostly kept quiet about their concerns over O'Rourke's record, including the backing he got from the centrist Blue Dog Democrats, before he lost a Texas Senate race to Republican Ted Cruz in November.

"They sucked it up while he was running" because they wanted him to win, Konst said. "But now it’s a different story."

Link to tweet

[EllieBC]

102. Well of course it couldn't be the the True Bernie Believers

They would never ever ever dream of trying to divide the party.

I guess we get to live 2015/2016 all over again with their bullshit.

[Cha]

105. lol.. No Never them. Even though it's ALL Over the Internet

for everybody to see.

Link to tweet

Let's blame it on the Russians.. that's the ticket!

[Cha]

90. Is Levi Sanders Russian, Tygr?

Link to tweet

Interested in FACTS, Cha

[TygrBright]

104. You didn't actually read the body of the post, did you? Just the headline. n/t

[Cha]

108. Wrong. It's not "the russian trollmeisters".. it's

the BS surrogates who started this and are continuing it..

Link to tweet

Of course the Russians are happy with any discord in the Democratic Party.

[TygrBright]

111. And still you don't read the REST of the post. "Volunteers". n/t

[Cha]

112. Please stop accusing me of not reading your whole

short little post. It's ridiculous.

[MuseRider]

103. Thank god not one single thing

from this website makes a difference. A bunch of trolls here and a bunch of trolls there and a bunch of people who feel the need to defend and correct. All one needs is a head on their shoulders and a grasp of reality and they will use blocks, hide a thread or just ignore the people who love to stir the trouble up. Nobody wins or loses elections here but a lot of people lose their minds.

[SixString]

107. Bravo!

[Marrah_Goodman]

106. They are hard at work pushing it on social media

Hopefully people here are smart enough to know better.

[betsuni]

110. They know the Bernie or Bust types still believe fake news if it's anti-Democratic.

We had to hear for years and years how President Obama was going to cut Social Security, start WWIII, kill everyone with drones, etc., and then came Hillary Clinton and oh dear, all the evil things she was going to do. So "concerned," just holding feet to the fire, they'd say. But now quoting Bernie Sanders or AOC and discussing what they say is "bashing," and no matter how often it's explained that Beto and other Democrats are not corrupt because they take individual contributions from employees of companies for their campaigns, doesn't make a dent. I wonder how many such people are left.

Yeah, it's the volunteers who are the most annoying. The emotional, angry, true believers who always resort to personal insults while insisting their fantasies about what terrible corrupt things Democrats have done and will do is about policy. I don't even think I've seen that many professionals. I remember some from 2016 because of their style: rapid-fire posting, repeating the same things, logical fallacies down pat.

[disillusioned73]

122. Those damn Rooskies!!!

We'll show them!!

[BannonsLiver]

131. That's not how it works

Russian trolls use divides that already exist and amplify them. In this case it’s the coordinated attack in the media by one candidate’s acolytes on another candidate. .