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I hope the parents of those two dead Guatemalan children (Original Post) malaise Dec 2018 OP
How long before we learn the numbers go up a lot higher of children who have died duforsure Dec 2018 #1
Not long - it's cold malaise Dec 2018 #2
+1, wouldn't be shocked if there were hundreds more uponit7771 Dec 2018 #14
We need someone on the inside avebury Dec 2018 #3
The whole thing is a nightmare. These are the ones we know about. Vinca Dec 2018 #4
+1 2naSalit Dec 2018 #5
How long before Trump is able to keep them secret? Johnny2X2X Dec 2018 #6
That won't happen malaise Dec 2018 #7
Wrong Johnny2X2X Dec 2018 #8
Weren't the children taken to the hospital for treatment? oberliner Dec 2018 #9
Detaining/separating them for one Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2018 #11
The boy who died was not separated oberliner Dec 2018 #13
Those children should not even have been in our custody Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2018 #10
Precisely n/t malaise Dec 2018 #12

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
1. How long before we learn the numbers go up a lot higher of children who have died
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 08:20 AM
Dec 2018

In their custody , or been severely abused? There will be many lawsuits for their crimes, and they'll win them too. It'll also open up and exposed the many things trump has had done to them. They've intentionally damaged these kids permanently for the rest of their lives on purpose. Child abuse is a crime. They should be held fully accountable for this.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
2. Not long - it's cold
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 08:22 AM
Dec 2018

and flu kills
I wish the perpetrators and their enablers all that the perpetrators wish for non-white people.
Enough of these crimes.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
4. The whole thing is a nightmare. These are the ones we know about.
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 08:45 AM
Dec 2018

They didn't bother to screen the workers at the kindergulags so there may be sex abuse going on as well. This is one of the most shameful things this government has ever done. Parents can sue, but there kids are still dead.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
6. How long before Trump is able to keep them secret?
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 11:37 AM
Dec 2018

It’s just a matter of time until they are able to keep it a secret when these kids die. It’s possible some deaths are already being kept secret. We do know thousands of parents don’t know where their children are.

Trump loves these deaths. He’s been talking about getting tough on “these animals” for years. In his mind, murdering their children is a good thing to punish them. He’s literally said he doesn’t consider them people.

History has shown us that whenever a leader dehumanizes a group that is then held in secret, atrocities happen. I’ve been saying this and will keep saying this, it’s a matter of time until mass graves are found. Atrocities are happening right now at our border.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
8. Wrong
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 11:52 AM
Dec 2018

The US is no different than any other country. You have a cruel and unjust system in place and tens of thousands at the border being held without their rights being honored, many being held in secret away from the eyes of even Senators who want to check on their well being. You have a leader dehumanizing them and calling them animals who aren’t people, as well as calling for them to suffer as punishment for trying to come here and to discourage others from trying. History has shown over and over that this is a recipe that guarantees abuses and atrocities. The prisoner and prison guard relationship is already abuse prone without all these other factors.

History is a guide, and it shows that these factors when combined always lead to the worst kinds of atrocities. What we’ve already been able to see (babies in cages) is atrocious. At this point we know there are bodies buried somewhere, the only thing left is to find them and stop what is happening to others. What is happening at our border is something that we as a country will be marked with for generations.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. The boy who died was not separated
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 01:02 PM
Dec 2018

His father accompanied him to the hospital.

The poor conditions pre-date this administration.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
10. Those children should not even have been in our custody
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 12:15 PM
Dec 2018

but since they were, the authorities should have been/should be doing a better job of caring for them.

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