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malaise

(268,956 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:17 PM Dec 2018

Prediction - the vile MAGAcretin's lie about personally increasing their salaries by 10% will be

The one to finish him off.
He looked at young military men and women and lied about their pay. That trip was horrific overall, but when you don't understand that working men and women know what they earn, you either are beyond pathological lying i.e fucking crazy or completely indifferent and uncaring.

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Prediction - the vile MAGAcretin's lie about personally increasing their salaries by 10% will be (Original Post) malaise Dec 2018 OP
They don't care exboyfil Dec 2018 #1
This. dhol82 Dec 2018 #5
Just goes to show ... NanceGreggs Dec 2018 #2
I've been thinking about it malaise Dec 2018 #8
He is still their Commander in Thief ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #3
Nicely put malaise Dec 2018 #33
it's not the worst thing he lied about AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #4
I agree. It wasn't by a long shot but Brainstormy Dec 2018 #19
they can also choose not to cover it at all AlexSFCA Dec 2018 #30
And claiming that it was the first raise in ten years. panader0 Dec 2018 #6
He writes a script and performs it malaise Dec 2018 #18
I hope you're right. You'd think when it comes to dollars and cents people would wake up. Vinca Dec 2018 #7
I suspects he truly believes this. I also suspect his prefrontal cortex resembles Swiss Cheese Siwsan Dec 2018 #9
On its way? malaise Dec 2018 #11
He doesnt believe or not believe anything. He doesnt know when they had raises, Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #13
Oh hell no. ANYONE who still supports him will either believe his lies or in this case where Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #10
I disagree malaise Dec 2018 #12
I agree that SHOULD do it, but didnt he get a standing ovation? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #14
They hadn't read the messages from home yet malaise Dec 2018 #16
According to my nephew Miigwech Dec 2018 #15
Sounds right. they think he is tough, when he is the biggest coward literally in history. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #20
So true, trump is not what they believe him to be Miigwech Dec 2018 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #27
Nope rusty fender Dec 2018 #17
This lie has the capacity to hurt Trump, I agree, but . . . gratuitous Dec 2018 #21
Well I'd have ads about it all over ASP malaise Dec 2018 #22
Unfortunately snowybirdie Dec 2018 #23
As a military Vet who works around the military... SKKY Dec 2018 #24
Thats comforting. mahina Dec 2018 #26
That's very good news malaise Dec 2018 #29
Trump didn't do shit. Military Pay Raises Are Tied to Statutory Formula. TheOther95Percent Dec 2018 #28
The vile MAGAcretin spewed malaise Dec 2018 #31
Those military kids were props. He was playing to his base. Beyong despicible. Raven Dec 2018 #32

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
1. They don't care
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:20 PM
Dec 2018

There will always be an excuse. Many were willing participants in a campaign rally while in uniform. The rules do not apply.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
2. Just goes to show ...
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:22 PM
Dec 2018

... how incredibly stupid Spanky is. He lied to the people who are in the best position to KNOW he's lying.

malaise

(268,956 posts)
8. I've been thinking about it
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:24 PM
Dec 2018

That was brazen on steroids. It's either that or he is stark ravings mad although I suspect it is both BOTH!

Brainstormy

(2,380 posts)
19. I agree. It wasn't by a long shot but
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:36 PM
Dec 2018

this one definitely exposes his derangement. It's SO blatant. Hard to see how there can be any twists or turns or Foxy bs to walk this back.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
6. And claiming that it was the first raise in ten years.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:23 PM
Dec 2018

The military has had a raise every year.
I hope you're right about these lies finishing him off.
Of course these men and women know how much they make, down to the dime.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
7. I hope you're right. You'd think when it comes to dollars and cents people would wake up.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:24 PM
Dec 2018

Those young soldiers can't be so rolling in dough they wouldn't be able to tell 2.8% from 10%.

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
9. I suspects he truly believes this. I also suspect his prefrontal cortex resembles Swiss Cheese
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:24 PM
Dec 2018

And is on its way to resembling slimy, moldy Swiss Cheese.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
13. He doesnt believe or not believe anything. He doesnt know when they had raises,
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:29 PM
Dec 2018

when they didnt, how much or how little.

He doesnt know what an E-1 is or whatever it is called now. Not sure if military still uses it but I at least know what it is.

He didnt know what a "strong dollar" meant. He knows nothing and I mean NOTHING about business, ANY business.

Swiss cheese is too generous, his brain is mush. Your life and mine and the lives of all human beings means nothing at all to him, nothing.

He is now saying that since only Democrats work for the government them not being paid is a good thing. If Obama or HRC said that in reverse they would not survive the day they said it.

I dont know how to get angrier.



Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
10. Oh hell no. ANYONE who still supports him will either believe his lies or in this case where
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:25 PM
Dec 2018

they know it is a lie they will just say he is saying it to make a point.

Nah, anyone who still supports him will continue to do so even if it destroys them and us.

malaise

(268,956 posts)
12. I disagree
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:28 PM
Dec 2018

He mocked them by lying about their salaries. He publicly took them for idiots on matters that relate to caring for families.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
14. I agree that SHOULD do it, but didnt he get a standing ovation?
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:30 PM
Dec 2018

I hope you are right. I dont know exactly what he said because my home and my office and my phone and my laptop are rump free, I do not allow his voice to be heard and if possible his image to be shown.

malaise

(268,956 posts)
16. They hadn't read the messages from home yet
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:35 PM
Dec 2018

They hadn't given it thought yet. This shift is real to working people particularly while he and the family are grifters on steroids.
I know there are deplorables among them but many are not deplorables. This is bread and butter business. He has no respect for them.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
15. According to my nephew
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:33 PM
Dec 2018

an officer, First Lieutenant, says that the officers hate trump, but the enlisted troops like him.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
25. So true, trump is not what they believe him to be
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:52 PM
Dec 2018

Hoping someday soon the regular troops will get the facts.

Response to Miigwech (Reply #25)

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. This lie has the capacity to hurt Trump, I agree, but . . .
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:37 PM
Dec 2018

The only way I see it affecting him is if we remember it, and repeat it every chance we get. Republicans hammer and hammer and hammer on their talking points, whether they're true or not. Trump's lies have achieved a kind of immortality, so much so that the Washington Post has instituted a new category, the bottomless pinnochio, to describe the relentless lies of Trump.

The advantage to our remembering this point is that it's true. Trump really did lie right to the faces of active duty military in a war zone. We need to get over our natural reticence in reiterating what we think "everybody knows," and make sure that even the most detached, disinterested, lowest information voter knows that Trump told the troops they were getting a 10% raise in pay when they were getting barely a quarter of that.

Say it, say it again, and repeat it, until conservatives have to start every defense of Trump by saying, "Well, he might have lied when he told the troops they were getting a 10% raise, but . . ."

snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
23. Unfortunately
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:39 PM
Dec 2018

In sure there will be young military people who will be looking for that raise next week in their paycheck! They will be sorely disappointed. Dang him!

SKKY

(11,804 posts)
24. As a military Vet who works around the military...
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:42 PM
Dec 2018

...every day, I honestly don't know 5 people who voted for him last time, or who will be voting for him again. Most of the Sailors I know feel the same about him as we do.

mahina

(17,646 posts)
26. Thats comforting.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 06:54 PM
Dec 2018

Cadet Bone Spurs holds their futures, and ours, in his tiny inept corrupt treasonous hands. To think they loved him for all we know know is just too much. I appreciate your response to the OP.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
28. Trump didn't do shit. Military Pay Raises Are Tied to Statutory Formula.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 07:06 PM
Dec 2018

Military pay raises are automatic. Trump didn't do fuck all. In all this coverage about the 10 percent raise, no one is talking about how military pay increases are calculated, the legal basis for raises or that congress has to vote to increase the amount over the formula, which was not done.



https://www.factcheck.org/2018/05/the-president-and-military-pay-raises/

https://militarypay.defense.gov/Pay/Basic-Pay/AnnualPayRaise/

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