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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPrediction - the vile MAGAcretin's lie about personally increasing their salaries by 10% will be
The one to finish him off.
He looked at young military men and women and lied about their pay. That trip was horrific overall, but when you don't understand that working men and women know what they earn, you either are beyond pathological lying i.e fucking crazy or completely indifferent and uncaring.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)There will always be an excuse. Many were willing participants in a campaign rally while in uniform. The rules do not apply.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... how incredibly stupid Spanky is. He lied to the people who are in the best position to KNOW he's lying.
malaise
(268,956 posts)That was brazen on steroids. It's either that or he is stark ravings mad although I suspect it is both BOTH!
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)They must obey him.
malaise
(268,956 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)this one definitely exposes his derangement. It's SO blatant. Hard to see how there can be any twists or turns or Foxy bs to walk this back.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)so the cult wouldnt know much about it.
panader0
(25,816 posts)The military has had a raise every year.
I hope you're right about these lies finishing him off.
Of course these men and women know how much they make, down to the dime.
malaise
(268,956 posts)Truth and facts be damned.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)Those young soldiers can't be so rolling in dough they wouldn't be able to tell 2.8% from 10%.
Siwsan
(26,260 posts)And is on its way to resembling slimy, moldy Swiss Cheese.
malaise
(268,956 posts)Way beyond that.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)when they didnt, how much or how little.
He doesnt know what an E-1 is or whatever it is called now. Not sure if military still uses it but I at least know what it is.
He didnt know what a "strong dollar" meant. He knows nothing and I mean NOTHING about business, ANY business.
Swiss cheese is too generous, his brain is mush. Your life and mine and the lives of all human beings means nothing at all to him, nothing.
He is now saying that since only Democrats work for the government them not being paid is a good thing. If Obama or HRC said that in reverse they would not survive the day they said it.
I dont know how to get angrier.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)they know it is a lie they will just say he is saying it to make a point.
Nah, anyone who still supports him will continue to do so even if it destroys them and us.
malaise
(268,956 posts)He mocked them by lying about their salaries. He publicly took them for idiots on matters that relate to caring for families.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)I hope you are right. I dont know exactly what he said because my home and my office and my phone and my laptop are rump free, I do not allow his voice to be heard and if possible his image to be shown.
malaise
(268,956 posts)They hadn't given it thought yet. This shift is real to working people particularly while he and the family are grifters on steroids.
I know there are deplorables among them but many are not deplorables. This is bread and butter business. He has no respect for them.
Miigwech
(3,741 posts)an officer, First Lieutenant, says that the officers hate trump, but the enlisted troops like him.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Miigwech
(3,741 posts)Hoping someday soon the regular troops will get the facts.
Response to Miigwech (Reply #25)
Eliot Rosewater This message was self-deleted by its author.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)They still asked to get their MAGA hats signed by him.
Nothing matters to the MAGA morans
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The only way I see it affecting him is if we remember it, and repeat it every chance we get. Republicans hammer and hammer and hammer on their talking points, whether they're true or not. Trump's lies have achieved a kind of immortality, so much so that the Washington Post has instituted a new category, the bottomless pinnochio, to describe the relentless lies of Trump.
The advantage to our remembering this point is that it's true. Trump really did lie right to the faces of active duty military in a war zone. We need to get over our natural reticence in reiterating what we think "everybody knows," and make sure that even the most detached, disinterested, lowest information voter knows that Trump told the troops they were getting a 10% raise in pay when they were getting barely a quarter of that.
Say it, say it again, and repeat it, until conservatives have to start every defense of Trump by saying, "Well, he might have lied when he told the troops they were getting a 10% raise, but . . ."
malaise
(268,956 posts)Spread it
snowybirdie
(5,225 posts)In sure there will be young military people who will be looking for that raise next week in their paycheck! They will be sorely disappointed. Dang him!
SKKY
(11,804 posts)...every day, I honestly don't know 5 people who voted for him last time, or who will be voting for him again. Most of the Sailors I know feel the same about him as we do.
mahina
(17,646 posts)Cadet Bone Spurs holds their futures, and ours, in his tiny inept corrupt treasonous hands. To think they loved him for all we know know is just too much. I appreciate your response to the OP.
malaise
(268,956 posts)TheOther95Percent
(1,035 posts)Military pay raises are automatic. Trump didn't do fuck all. In all this coverage about the 10 percent raise, no one is talking about how military pay increases are calculated, the legal basis for raises or that congress has to vote to increase the amount over the formula, which was not done.
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/05/the-president-and-military-pay-raises/
https://militarypay.defense.gov/Pay/Basic-Pay/AnnualPayRaise/
malaise
(268,956 posts)several lies on that trip.