Remember the millions Jill Stein raised to pay for RECOUNTS? Here's where it REALLY went.

[pnwmom]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jill-steins-recount-cash-pays-for-her-russia-legal-defense?via=twitter_page

Money that Jill Stein raised to recount votes in 2016 swing states is being used by her campaign to pay for legal bills stemming from the investigation of Russian interference in the last presidential election.

In June, The Daily Beast reported that the the U.S. Green Party candidate’s campaign, which raised $7.3 million for recounts in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, had in 2017 stopped disclosing its monthly spending with the Federal Election Commission. Later that month, the Jill Stein for President committee filed a slew of reports that reveal spending on lawyers who are not trying to get inside any voting machines.

At the end of May 2018, according to the most recent FEC filing, the Stein campaign paid the “Partnership for Civil Justice” $66,441.60; that is on top of a $31,536 payment made in January, and more than the Stein campaign had in cash on hand by November 2016.

The Partnership for Civil Justice Fund is a nonprofit law firm whose mission is to “defend and advance fundamental civil, constitutional and human rights,” per a 2016 IRS filing. On its website, the group notes that it is representing Stein in her dealings before the the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

In May 2018, the Stein campaign also paid $9,325 in attorney fees to Miller & Chevalier. In August 2017, Politico described it as “a boutique firm in Washington” that had taken on the case of Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman. Manafort, accused of by special counsel Robert Mueller of money laundering, is currently in jail.

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[madaboutharry]

1. She's a con artist.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

3. I came close to donating for the recount

The 2016 (non) election was so frustrating and enraging that I almost donated just to see those recounts. I can therefore understand those who got caught in her con.

She's another one who deserves jail time.

[Cha]

10. I'm glad you refrained..

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Hermit-The-Prog]

19. her attacks on Hillary stopped me

I didn't know about her schmoozing with Putin at the time, but her comments against Hillary Clinton were so far off that I couldn't send money even on the chance of a recount revealing 'mischief'. You can't trust the untrustworthy; you can't send someone dirty to uncover dirty deeds.

[Cha]

23. "...you can't send someone dirty to uncover dirty deeds."

Exactly! The scam artist that keeps on scamming.

We were told on this board by certain posters to leave jill stein alone, that it was in the past.. but that's not true. She'll do it again in 2020 and it's important for as many as possible to know the reality of what she's up to.

[SergeStorms]

28. Right out of the Donald Trump playbook.

She deserves a little time in a nice, remote area......somewhere like the Florence, Arizona ADMAX, to reflect upon her poor choices during the 2016 Presidential Election. Four years or so ought to do it.

[Cha]

29. Sounds like some

Justice to me, Serge.

[GWC58]

57. Florence, CO

I believe. Four years in solitary confinement should set her straight. No tv, no radio, no newspapers, no contact whatsoever, no writing material. If she wants a book give her a Quran.👺😈👿

[susanna]

30. I was a bit tempted at first,

but sensed that JS was again grifting...

She had just cost HRC the Presidency, FFS. And then tried to play savior? Yeah, that's a no from me.

Glad I refrained.

[Stargazer09]

33. I also came close to donating

I really, REALLY wanted recounts!

But Stein seemed very slimy to me, and in the end, I held on to my money.

[NurseJackie]

13. One of several that I have great contempt for.

[BigmanPigman]

2. I guess I won't be seeing a refund of my $30.

I was so desperate to NOT have the fucking moron as POTUS I donated. Those voting machines should still be investigated. Where are they? Are they sealed?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

20. I can empathize

That (non) election will rankle forever.

[LiberalFighter]

4. People should demand refunds.

[Wellstone ruled]

5. Ah ha,,

finally justice for the question I asked some two years ago. Thank you so much.

Some day I hope justice does pay a stop at her door step.

[GulfCoast66]

6. I read the article.

So they spent part of the money defending their pow-wow with Putin in Russia.

And the rest is going to pay her sycophants 5-10k a month till the Money is gone.

All right then.

[MichMan]

7. Still amazed that so many gullible fools handed over $$ to her

It was obvious that her fake "recount" had no chance of succeeding

They could have donated to all kinds of legitimate charities that really needed the money, but gave it to her instead

[ProudLib72]

8. Question: How is this not illegal?

Seems like fraud to me, but what do I know.

[Maru Kitteh]

9. "Hillary is more dangerous than Donald Trump" - Jill Stein

So ya know . . . so not surprised.

[elias7]

37. Trump is the antithesis of Green

Is there a Green Party and why do they not speak out?

[Maru Kitteh]

38. The Green party keeps crowning her their nominee.

[still_one]

39. The Green Party is a fraud, and it speaks volumes about folks like Susan Sarandon and Cornel West

voted for her.

[Blue_true]

52. You asked the question that always is there.

Nader hit Gore on the environment and wars. Bush went batshit on both, not a word from Nader for 8 years, but he was back to attack President Obama.

Stein and those that supported her camped out at the Keystone protest site during the election, after they left and said NOTHING as law enforcement brutally assaulted Indian residents that were fighting for their cultural and environmental rights.

I absolutely despise Greens, they are less than garbage to me.

[Codeine]

11. Obviousscam was obvious.

Disappointing that it received so much support at DU, and that those who expressed suspicion or skepticism were treated with such hostility.

[Solly Mack]

12. I'm amazed people sent her money.

[pnwmom]

14. I know. As soon as she raised the requested amount, it should have been obvious

to anyone that it was a scam -- if not before. And she raised it multiple times -- even though a court quickly ruled that there would be no recount in PA, so there was zero chance of overturning the election.

She took advantage of many desperate people.

[Solly Mack]

15. She did. And she's defiant about it too.

[Gothmog]

16. Stein is beeaking the law

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[AllyCat]

17. You know, I used to be a Green Party supporter, voting for Dems

when there was no Green candidate. I never voted for Stein though.

I felt they lost some credibility when they kept propping her up. Now that party has lost credibility too.

She is a horrible person, and a Russian-sympathizer at best, a traitor at worst.

A pox on her.

[WhiteHat]

25. Now you have OAC

The most important issue of our generation is our next generation. This is life-or-death stuff, continuation of the species stuff.

Close to 90% of the entire world's population currently lives within 60 miles of the ocean shoreline. Our own DoD recognizes this. Look it the fuck up. It takes less than 3 min. on Google.

[Cha]

31. Of course it is.. that's why we Vote

for the Democratic Party.. Not the RF "green" party.

[pnwmom]

41. AOC isn't a Jill Stein or Green Party supporter. n/t

[AllyCat]

47. Exactly why are you yelling at me?

[The_REAL_Ecumenist]

18. Why can't she be charged &/or sued for fraud? ANYONE else I've ever heard of who pulled

the same kind of cheeky bullsh!t, ESPECIALLY considering that this was money she solicited across STATE LINES, aka, WIRE FRAUD et al, found themselves facing all kinds of charges. I cannot believe that this is NOT a serious FEDERAL crime, with Fraud as ONLY the beginning....I'm not a lawyer nor do I play one on television but I'm also NOT stupid.. Esteemed counselors, Somebody say something & let us know what this amounts to...

[videohead5]

21. I'm really not worried about $5

I only sent her $5. The biggest reason I did was a Detroit newspaper the night of the election called the state for Hillary after sampling 80% of the precincts and said she would win Michigan by 3 or 4 points. That made me very suspicious.

[WhiteHat]

22. OMFG. You mean Jill Stein was an unwitting agent of a foreign power?

Of COURSE she was, the dope/dupe/dumbshit. it's just nice to hear someone else say it.

[MrsCoffee]

44. Unwitting?

Puhleeze.

[diva77]

24. Here is a history of how the recount came about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_recounts

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Following Republican nominee Donald Trump's presumed electoral college victory in the United States presidential election of 2016, a group of computer scientists, cyber security experts, and election monitors raised concerns about the integrity of the election results. They urged the campaign staff of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, who had conceded the campaign on November 9,[1] to petition for a recount in three key states: Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.[2] When the Clinton campaign declined to file for recounts, Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein agreed to spearhead the recount effort on November 23, on the grounds that unspecified "anomalies" may have affected the election's outcome. The Clinton team subsequently pledged to support the recount efforts "in order to ensure the process proceeds in a manner that is fair to all sides."[3][4][5] President-elect Trump and his supporters filed legal motions in all three states to prevent the recounts.[6] Two other states were the subject of recount bids that were separate from Stein's efforts in the Rust Belt states: American Delta Party/Reform Party presidential candidate Rocky De La Fuente filed for a partial recount in Nevada on November 30,[7] and three Florida citizens filed for a complete hand recount in their state on December 6.[8]
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[pnwmom]

27. That clip leaves a great deal out that shows what a scam this was.

First Stein said they needed a certain amount (I think it was 2 and a half million) to do the recounts in the three states. When they had successfully raised that amount, she suddenly decided they needed much more. And then much more AGAIN.

But very early on, a judge ruled that there would be no recount in PA. Which means that thousands of people were giving millions of dollars with ZERO chance that the election results could be overturned. She continued to raise money under false pretenses till she had about 7.5 million.

And then, instead of following through with her promise to donors that they could vote on what to do with any leftover funds, she spent them however she wanted, including on her personal legal liability as a result of her dinner with Putin.

Hillary got involved only to assert her right to be involved in decisions on any recount, in the remote possibility that Stein's efforts succeeded.

[diva77]

34. The scam is that the RETHUGS rigged the election and did everything to obstruct recounts

According to the article link you posted, Stein is still in compliance with the law. Please correct me if I misread it.

Why Stein has become the devil incarnate is mind boggling -- meanwhile, rethugs gerrymander, steal absentee ballots, rig voting machines, make voting machines malfunction, scrub voters from the rolls, etc.



I'm done with this exchange.

[pnwmom]

36. She's in compliance only because the law is enforced so poorly.

According to the July 2018 article, she hadn't filed required reports since sometime in 2017.

She was never serious about the recount. But she did succeed in getting enough votes in three key states to flip the election to Trump.

In June, The Daily Beast reported that the the U.S. Green Party candidate’s campaign, which raised $7.3 million for recounts in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, had in 2017 stopped disclosing its monthly spending with the Federal Election Commission. Later that month, the Jill Stein for President committee filed a slew of reports that reveal spending on lawyers who are not trying to get inside any voting machines.

And there is more here:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-jill-steins-recount-millions

“It is strange that they would just stop filing reports given they were a legitimate, professional campaign, and despite still having more than a million dollars in cash on hand,” Andrew Mayersohn, a researcher at the Center for Responsive Politics, told The Daily Beast.

Jonathan S. Abady, an attorney with Emery Celli Brinckerhoff & Abady LLP, the New York-based firm that represents Stein and her campaign, told The Daily Beast that legal efforts on the recount persist to this day.

But the opacity surrounding the expenditure of money—combined with the fact that a good chunk of the spending has come after all efforts to recount the vote were terminated—has fed criticism that Stein was more interested in boosting her political operations than in recounting votes. It’s also drawn the ire of regulators. In a May 7, 2018 letter, the FEC warned Stein campaign treasurer Steven Welzer that he was violating federal law by not accounting for half a year of spending.

“The failure to timely file this report may result in civil money penalties, suspension of matching funds, an audit or legal enforcement action,” the letter states, noting there is no grace period.

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Much of the spending has taken place long since any hope for more recounts came to an end. Of the more than $509,000 spent on staff, more than $300,000 has been spent since February 20, 2017, according to the Stein campaign. The same is true for 87 percent of travel and events spending.

As the Center for Responsive Politics has noted, U.S. law dictates that funds raised for a recount “only go toward expenses directly related to the recount, such as paying state staff that counts the votes or any other administrative or overhead payments, as well as post-election litigation.”

[yardwork]

42. Stein directly contributed to Trump being elected.

At best, she's an unwitting dupe of Putin.

[obamanut2012]

45. You are wrong -- Stein was and is a scam artist

And used Trump stealing the election to continue her scam. She was actively complicit in helping Hillary lose. You are 100% wrong. Stein is as bad as any of them.

[MrsCoffee]

46. Geee, I can't imagine why...

Are you kidding me?

[Demsrule86]

55. Stein helped the Russians in my opinion...she is a traitor and I despise her...hope she

ends up under indictment.

[Cha]

32. Here's a short history of what Jill Stein did with the money..

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Hassin Bin Sober]

43. People forget the Clinton campaign supported the recount effort.

[MrsCoffee]

48. And people forget that Bernie was fine with that.

He defended Stein’s efforts.



Since we are going down memory lane and all.....

[diva77]

49. and it's too bad that Clinton conceded. There is evidence of rampant election fraud

from 2016.
How the Republicans Helped Trump Steal the Election by Greg Palast jan. 25, 2018
https://truthout.org/articles/how-the-republicans-helped-trump-steal-the-election/
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Trump lost not just the popular vote, but also the vote in key swing states — that is, if you counted all the ballots cast and allowed the blocked and purged voters to vote.

How?
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Take Michigan. Trump officially won the state by 10,700 voters. But dig this: 75,355 ballots were never counted.

Like, huh? Not counted? Yes. Michiganders vote on these ridiculous paper ballots that old machines have a hard time reading. And critically, 87 machines simply broke down and didn’t count the votes at all.

And where were these uncounted ballots and broken machines? I found them in Detroit and Flint, Michigan — two majority-Black cities. Do you think those 75,355 ballots in Detroit and Flint were Trump ballots?

So, why broken machines? As I explain in the update, Detroit and Flint went bankrupt — and so the budgets of those cities were taken over by “managers” appointed by the violently Republican governor. Detroit’s manager was told the machines would break in advance of the election. That the machines were old and couldn’t read all the ballots if marked with red pens or if folks put an “X” instead of filling in a bubble.

But there’s a marvelous machine that can read those uncounted ballots: the human eye. And that is why Jill Stein called for a “recount” — which was actually a count of the ballots previously “spoiled” and uncounted. Trump’s lawyers stopped the recount because he was losing.

And as I illustrate in the film, almost 3 million ballots were disqualified for cockamamie reasons, like not filling in the bubble.

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Whose votes get thrown in the ballot dumpster? According to the US Civil Rights Commission, the chance your vote will be disqualified is 900 percent higher if you’re Black than if you’re white.

Do the math. Trump would have lost Ohio, North Carolina, Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania … the list goes on … if not for the “spoilage” game and blocking legit voters from the polls.

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[pnwmom]

63. She couldn't have changed the results and she knew it. Michigan had a Rethug governor

and legislature. Ohio was also run by R's, N. Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona. They wouldn't have allowed the results to be overturned.

[roamer65]

35. I hope she's indicted by Mueller.

[blur256]

40. I had a couple of friends who were die hard Stein

Voters during the election. Because she was "so much better and honest" than Clinton. Still waiting for apologies from them... don't think they are coming anytime soon. They are people who "know better" than the rest of us you know...

[Eliot Rosewater]

51. And if she ran again she would get millions of votes. The reason why is why we may not survive

I hope we will, but we might not and if we dont it will NOT be because 38% voted for the con, it will be the 10% who voted 3rd party or not at all because, you know, both are the same

[RockCreek]

53. She initiated recounts

Clinton did not.
Why didn't Clinton? There was evidence of abnormalities in the voting.
This is a real question.
In some places only candidates can initiate recounts.

[Demsrule86]

56. There was never going to be any proof...as for initiating recounts. She scammed people and took

their money.

[pnwmom]

59. No, that isn't the real question, or any question. Hillary understood the recount process

and knew they wouldn't qualify for a recount in PA (the margin wasn't small enough.) Without wins in all three states the results couldn't affect the outcome of the election.

[Cha]

60. Of course, she did. Stein is a Scammer..

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[thegoose]

54. As big a scumbag as Dump

Lock her up!

[CreekDog]

58. That recount fundraising gave Stein and The Green Party the names and info of Democratic donors

which I'm sure is part of the point.

god knows what they'll do with that info and if they'll send it to the Macedonian troll team for shenanigans in 2020.

undoubtedly they'll try to sow discord during the Democratic primary season and after.

[ffr]

61. It sickens me to see that.

[Initech]

62. The sooner Jill Stein and the Green Party go away the better!

[Scurrilous]

64. ...