He crossed a line. They crossed a line.

[kentuck]

Throughout our history, the American people have tolerated a lot from our leaders and from our government, but this time is different.

Donald Trump and his supporters threaten us in ways never seen before. They ask that we give up compassion, empathy, and even the idea of humanity. They want us to give up the idea that truth can be quantified. They want us to be a revengeful and hateful nation. They promote a world that tears at our very soul.

They pretend it is just a political battle. So long as their side wins, anything is acceptable.

But Americans are not the people that Donald Trump and his supporters want them to be. We do not want to wall ourselves off from the rest of the world. We are not ready to accept as normal the lies, the deceptions, the criminality, the insanity they attempt to force upon us.

We are not ready to surrender our humanity to any political Party or cult in order to further any political agenda.

Donald Trump has crossed a line and his supporters have followed him. It is a sad day for America and the world.

[Alliepoo]

1. Beautifully said-

And what a way with words you have. Thank you for saying what my heart feels.

[maddiemom]

11. Get rid of the Electoral College

[erronis]

25. I like the repetition - please keep it up. This is non-representative government

and the creatures that label themselves as repuglicon never want true representation.

Thanks!

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

2. Never liked the guy...

The time he crossed the line for me was before he was “elected” in 2016. During the debate when he asked Russia to get the emails.

A person running for president asks a hostile country for help on his opponent? Come on...that right there...that moment...was a nightmare.

[maddiemom]

12. Get rid of the Electoral College.

[hedda_foil]

38. Need a constitutional amendment to get rid of that.

Hard as he'll to achieve.

[TwistOneUp]

28. Hear here! nt

[Brawndo]

3. They will lose

At the end of the day there are far more of us than them, they may win a few battles but the outcome of the war doesn't look good for them.
A certain quote comes to mind, "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

Their betrayal of American values will not go unanswered.

[maddiemom]

13. Get rid of the Electoral College.

[BarbD]

17. Right on!

When Gore lost, I tried to convince the local Dems to change the constitution. They said it was too hard and would take to long, But now it is obvious that the Electoral College has outgrown its fairness. One of the Dems priorities should be to amend the Constitution. Let's put the pressure on. The Dems are going to have to multi task like crazy.

[kentuck]

23. It is false to say that the people spoke when there is an Electoral College victory.

I agree with you.

It is like saying that a large number of people vote because they think their vote will determine who wins the Electoral College? No voter is that sophisticated. It is a flaw in our voting system.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

35. +1

Great quote. Be part of the giant. Don't be an observer. Welcome to DU.

[Brawndo]

41. Thanks!

The quote was attributed to Isoroku Yamamoto, the Imperial Japanese Fleet Admiral after the "success" of their attack on Pearl Harbor.
I believe tRump supporters will regret their similar "success"

[Mr. Ected]

4. Our Constitution gives us the platform and authority to dismantle this horrid manifestation

But it does not allow us to punish those who harbor those very feelings in what one would loosely call their "hearts". Those 50 or 60 million neighbors that voted for this monstrosity and continue to beat the war drums against America.

They go nowhere. They are not ostracized for being nasty human beings. Their souls are not cleansed by the process. They will continue to feign anger and displacement. They are a force of evil and, eventually, will have to be reckoned with.

There's only one path to that reckoning, and both of us know exactly what that is.

[kentuck]

5. You are correct.

Fortunately, revenge is in the "hearts" of the inhumane. America is not the inhumane country portrayed by Trump and his followers. We will suffer this "horrid manifestation" until we can vote them all out of power. That is the only rational exit that we have at this time.

[KentuckyWoman]

9. It is a world wide phenomenon

If it comes to the worst scenario to settle our differences, it will be because few at the top convinced us to do so. Humanity falls for this over and over again. It is happening in many places of the world right now. I hope it doesn't happen here again.

[Marengo]

39. What would this "one path" be and what do you mean by "reckoning"?

[Vinca]

6. I find his latest remark about the children who died the most noxious thing he's uttered.

It makes me want to cry for what has happened to this country.

[NRaleighLiberal]

7. Dubya was a tenacious bacteria. Trump and trumpers are more of a deadly virus

[KentuckyWoman]

8. He's gone too far even for some of his former supporters.

His base is racist to the core, but putting children in cages and playing pattyfingers with Russia is a bit much even for them.

[Fuzzpope]

21. Wrong.

Some, a minority among their ranks may have recoiled, but many did not, and brazenly glorified the children's plight with an abandon, on a level of depravity I've only seen in the worst displays of social hatred like the Serbian war. On Facebook, in public, the mockery, contempt, naked hatred weilded against innocents was a thing of pure horror to see, because the people making those statements, condemning, excoriating those children, calling for thier cages to be electrified, volunteering to man cattle prods to torture them with, calling for their starvation and deaths, these are our neighbors, coworkers, and family too far inside our perimeters to ever successfully defend ourselves from.

They will not change, there's nothing left to change back from, to bite down and be silent. Trump opened Pandora's box on this country and 33% of us flew out and have given themselves over to a bestial inhumanity that will be a horrific task to sever ourselves from, as they are part of us, our whole, our society. Anyone who does not see this second Civil War for what it truly is, is frankly delusional.

Trump enabled them to find their voice. They are, like him, sore winners and even sorer losers. When he goes and their oxygen is cut off, they are going to lash out, blindly, wildly, from coast to coast.

This is something that must somehow be prepared for and fully anticipated, if preparation for such a thing is even possible given how much the Trurmpian ideology has infested within law enforcement and other authority structures.

I would give anything to be wrong, but every bit of me, my understanding, my lifelong study of humanity and sociology says that I'm not. The worst is yet to come and there is no avoiding the collision that I personally can see.

[erronis]

26. I don't know about what you say since I don't see much alt information.

I think you are generally right and I enjoyed reading your post, but I'd appreciate some additional context if it's available.

[Grasswire2]

37. Very well said.

Welcome to DU, and I hope you will write often.

[Fuzzpope]

40. .

Thank you, Grasswire2!

[malaise]

10. Great post

Rec

[Pepsidog]

34. Yes great post!

[Martin Eden]

14. "give up compassion, empathy, and even the idea of humanity"

... while they thump the Bible and call themselves Christians.

[PaulX2]

18. Eternity How Long Republicans Will Burn

Is the sign on the back of my car.

Made it myself.

[Martin Eden]

19. Karma can be Hell

But I want to see them get their comeuppance in this world.

Great bumper sticker, BTW.

[Honeycombe8]

15. You expressed my feelings exactly, Kentuck. This IS different from regular politics.

Great post.

[eleny]

16. Yes, truth quantified and shifted

This past November Americans said, "No".

[dalton99a]

20. The GOP crossed it when they begged him to run as a Republican in the face of a mountain of evidence

that the criminal traitor was utterly unfit and unqualified to hold any public office

[marieo1]

22. Clarifying read

I am so glad there are still a few decent people in our country!! This is a refreshing read. Thank you for clarifying this for all of us. Most of the people in our country think what is going on is terrible and don't agree with any of it and yet we feel so helpless and don't have any power to change anything.

[paleotn]

24. His supporters....

gun humpers, fox nuts, fundigelicals, angry old white men...they gave up their humanity long ago. If they ever had any to give up.

[ismnotwasm]

27. America and Americans have crossed the line into inhumanity many times.

Trump and his supporters want to go back into the times where it was perfectly acceptable to be inhumane.

[kentuck]

29. It was never perfectly acceptable to everyone to be inhumane...

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...otherwise we would have never made any progress in this country.

It is true that we have crossed that line many times but there was always a guiding force to counter whatever evil we encountered.

The difference this time, in my opinion, is the blatant use of lies and deception to persuade the American people of their cause. Even in the Civil War, however evil and wrong, they believed their cause to be true and just. They did not have to be lied to or deceived.

It is debatable whether or not Trump could be as successful as he has been without his lies and deception?

I think there is a difference, however difficult to explain.

[ismnotwasm]

31. True, not completely I suppose.

No matter how horrible our behavior towards slaves, immigrants from...China, say, Native Americans, all the “People’s Hisory” things that we tend not to think about or to forget about, there were people fighting against it, even if they lost.

I think Trump supporters count on, what to them, are comforting lies and deception.

[Sherman A1]

30. Disagree

He is the results of what has long been brewing in his base and exploited by the Hate Editions of Talk Radio and Fox Noise. The have been there for as long and the country has been around and simply have come to the forefront now embodied in the "Esteemed" Mr. Trump. He is a symptom, not the disease.

[kentuck]

32. Nothing happens in a vacuum...

...that is for sure.

[demigoddess]

33. AMEN!

[Paka]

36. Amen!!

The world he and his cult promote is indeed unacceptable.