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Who is Newsweek's cover story author Niall Ferguson (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2012 OP
At least he put his own name on his bogus hit piece KurtNYC Aug 2012 #1
Niall Ferguson is a highly reactionary right-wing British historian Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #2
Was he born in 1840 or what!?! n/t flamingdem Aug 2012 #6
He's a mixed bag. Some of his historical books are very very good Recursion Aug 2012 #14
Yes, some people have forgotten we wanted out of that empire. freshwest Aug 2012 #13
Newsweek is in the same category as TIME magazine - basically truedelphi Aug 2012 #3
I think Kerry's Manny Ortiz faux pas stirred up the virgogal Aug 2012 #8
A guy who THINKS he knows something. immoderate Aug 2012 #4
Nothing like a right-wing foreigner writing a smear op-ed on the US PResident. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #5
An advisor to John McCain writes the cover story?!? KeepItReal Aug 2012 #7
Oh wow ... this Newsweek story is going to backfire big time. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #9
A fill-in host for Rush Limbaugh - he's full of it. dgauss Aug 2012 #10
He's that anti-woman, anti-elderly, anti-disabled fill-in?!? from that to the NW Cover? SHAME AnotherMother4Peace Aug 2012 #17
I remember a grad seminar in which we read his book Colussus. a la izquierda Aug 2012 #11
One of our better historians, despite his political idiocy Recursion Aug 2012 #12
"The Pity of War" is not too bad, if you overlook his central thesis. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #15
Good point. His "should's" are questionable, his "did's" are usually really good. Recursion Aug 2012 #16
This guy is a frequent guest on Bloomberg. lonestarlib Aug 2012 #18
Fail Nerguson? ThoughtCriminal Aug 2012 #19
Did Newsweek even FACT CHECK their Cha Aug 2012 #20
You don't understand ProSense Aug 2012 #21
I want this to BACKFIRE ON Cha Aug 2012 #22
This would be troubling if anyone still read Newsweek Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #23
Very apropos. I only see it in the waiting rooms, truedelphi Aug 2012 #29
I only pick it up if I have exhausted all of the copies of Highlights for Children :) Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #31
Found this in the comment section on Cha Aug 2012 #24
Good. Newsweek ProSense Aug 2012 #25
Andrew Sullivan is calling out Ferguson's Lies on thedailybeast, too.. Cha Aug 2012 #26
Sully took him down hard. Really hard. hifiguy Aug 2012 #27
Yes! So much better coming Cha Aug 2012 #28
Tina Brown first destroyed The New Yorker, which went truedelphi Aug 2012 #30

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
1. At least he put his own name on his bogus hit piece
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:08 PM
Aug 2012

unlike their editor Joe Klein when he wrote the hit piece of Clinton, "Primary Colors."

After months of emphatic denials, the anonymous author of a best-selling tale of political intrigue and deceit emerged yesterday at a hastily called news conference to reveal his own true colors: "My name is Joe Klein and I wrote 'Primary Colors.' "

Mr. Klein, a Newsweek columnist and an occasional commentator for CBS News, offered no apologies for lying to friends and colleagues, insisting that he had guarded his secret in the same way that journalists protect news sources.


http://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/18/us/columnist-s-mea-culpa-i-m-anonymous.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Newsweek has as much credibility as Romney.
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
2. Niall Ferguson is a highly reactionary right-wing British historian
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:11 PM
Aug 2012

who thinks that the US should fully embrace its role as the natural successor of the British Empire in the fullest sense.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
14. He's a mixed bag. Some of his historical books are very very good
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:34 PM
Aug 2012

Just don't believe anything he says about the world after, say, 1950 or so.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
3. Newsweek is in the same category as TIME magazine - basically
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:13 PM
Aug 2012

Journalism of and by the CIA news mongers.

For instance, right before the 2004 election, Newsweek did attack pieces on John Kerry, one of which went to great lengths to prove that his wife had to explain the rules of baseball to him. (This "fact" was based on a photograph that showed what POSSIBLY might have been her explaining something to him, but apparently the writer "knew" what she was saying.)

Oh, and that particular article had Howard Fineman's name attached to it.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
8. I think Kerry's Manny Ortiz faux pas stirred up the
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:24 PM
Aug 2012

entire baseball thing which,of course,is nonsense.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
5. Nothing like a right-wing foreigner writing a smear op-ed on the US PResident.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:15 PM
Aug 2012

Does Newsweek have any decent people working there anymore?

Or are they the new Enquirer? I mean.. I could almost see it if it was written by someone who was actually a fucking American.. but a british historian? WTF? From the UK? The irony is not lost on me.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
9. Oh wow ... this Newsweek story is going to backfire big time.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:28 PM
Aug 2012

This guy wants Romney to win so there will be a war with Iran. Period.

That's such an easy rebuttal to this idiot. One simple video clip tells the entire story.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,241 posts)
17. He's that anti-woman, anti-elderly, anti-disabled fill-in?!? from that to the NW Cover? SHAME
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:54 PM
Aug 2012

Yes, I've listened to him - He tries to outdo Limbaugh with his crap - to please his overlord.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
11. I remember a grad seminar in which we read his book Colussus.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:31 PM
Aug 2012

Talk about a drag. Take a bunch of Native American historians (with a few Latin Americanists thrown in for good measure), and make them read that drek.
We all wanted to throw ourselves out of our seminar room windows by the end of the night. I think the professor did, too.
Egotistical, and way too much diarrhea-of-the-brain.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. One of our better historians, despite his political idiocy
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:33 PM
Aug 2012

"The Pity of War" is probably the best book written about the First World War. And "The Ascent of Money" is one of the best histories of capitalism since Marx. Also, as a bit of trivia, he's married to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who was the star of the movie that got Theo Van Gogh killed.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
15. "The Pity of War" is not too bad, if you overlook his central thesis.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:34 PM
Aug 2012

Which is that Britain should have stayed out of WWI because if Germany had won the result would have been a continental EU 60 or 70 years ahead of schedule, and Britain would still have its empire.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
16. Good point. His "should's" are questionable, his "did's" are usually really good.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:36 PM
Aug 2012

And I like his use of economic data (and my God there are pages and pages of footnotes in that one) which is something histories of WWI have tended to ignore. "The War of the World" I'm still digesting -- just from a quality of writing standpoint it's not nearly as good.

Cha

(297,123 posts)
20. Did Newsweek even FACT CHECK their
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:53 PM
Aug 2012

cover story? Can any hack write stupid lies and make it on their cover?

Thx for uncovering the rock on this rw stooge, ProSense.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
21. You don't understand
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:41 PM
Aug 2012

"Did Newsweek even FACT CHECK their"

Fact checking doesn't count in "fair and balanced" coverage. If it did, Republicans would be shit out of luck.

I mean, facts have a liberal bias. To compensate for that, the media has to handicap Republicans.

"Fair and balanced": Democrats criticize using facts, and Republicans counter using opinions laced with made up shit.



 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
23. This would be troubling if anyone still read Newsweek
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:56 PM
Aug 2012

I have spent far too much time in waiting rooms the past few years
and I rarely see it even there

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
29. Very apropos. I only see it in the waiting rooms,
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:39 PM
Aug 2012

And read it if I am waiting a very long time. I never forgave Howard Fineman for his making John Kerry seem like a fool. And I never could figure out why Olbermann enshrined him as a Talking Head on MSNBC...

Cha

(297,123 posts)
24. Found this in the comment section on
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:19 PM
Aug 2012

the obama diary..

[font size=large]Did @Newsweek or @TheTinaBeast fact check @nfergus's article? The mistakes and BS LIES are embarrassing. thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/…

19 Aug 12 ReplyRetweetFavoriteJournalists are pissed off about this article. They’re articles and tweets pointing out the LIES that are rampant in these moronic article. The Journos have been mocking Ferguson on twitter for his erroneous nonsense. How desperate is Tina Brown that she features this crap on the cover page?

A lot of subscribers on twitter say they’re calling NewsWeek and revoking their subscriptions. At the rate Tina’s going, NewsWeek won’t be around at the end of Pres. Obama’s second term."
[font]

Glad this seems to be Trending on Twitter!

Cha

(297,123 posts)
26. Andrew Sullivan is calling out Ferguson's Lies on thedailybeast, too..
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:13 PM
Aug 2012

with an indepth rebuttal.

This was his last sentence..

"More to come. The piece is sadly so ridden with errors and elisions and non-sequiturs it will require a few more posts."

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/08/fisking.html

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
27. Sully took him down hard. Really hard.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:25 PM
Aug 2012

And he's a friend of Sully's. Which shows that Sullivan has genuine intellectual integrity.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
30. Tina Brown first destroyed The New Yorker, which went
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:42 PM
Aug 2012

From being a readable journal that had featured such stand out writers as Rachel Carson and John Hershey, to people who did fluff pieces on the Chief Executive of Monsanto. Big Corporations all good, all the time.

I thought at that time in the mid nineties that she was a CIA lackey, but now that she is in charge of a CIA-run publication, it all makes sense.

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