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Voltaire2

(12,957 posts)
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 07:08 AM Jan 2019

America's Most and Least Popular Senators

https://morningconsult.com/2019/01/10/americas-most-and-least-popular-senators-q4-2018/

Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), a vocal Trump critic, finished at the bottom in his last quarter in office.

Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) was the most popular senator for the 11th time in a row.

Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-Miss.) saw 10-point drops in their net approval, the worst in the chamber

The latest rankings – based on surveys of 416,853 registered voters across the country conducted Oct. 1 through Dec. 31, 2018 (see methodology here) – found McConnell’s net approval increased 10 percentage points since the third quarter of 2018, with 38 percent of Kentucky voters approving of his job performance and 47 percent disapproving. The fourth quarter marks McConnell’s best showing since the second quarter of 2017 as he prepares for an expected re-election campaign in 2020. (Net approval is the share of voters who approve of a senator minus the share of voters who disapprove. Approval and disapproval figures are rounded.)
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America's Most and Least Popular Senators (Original Post) Voltaire2 Jan 2019 OP
Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) was the most popular senator for the 11th time in a row. RandiFan1290 Jan 2019 #1
I am a huge Bernie supporter! Joe941 Jan 2019 #8
+1 Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #26
As the article states: TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #2
Congratulations to Senator Sanders for winning the approval of voters IN HIS STATE. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #9
Ethnic diversity doesn't matter. progressoid Jan 2019 #14
I think it speaks more to the Hawaiian senator's skills as a politician... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #16
Maybe they should give Bob Menendez some lessons. progressoid Jan 2019 #17
In the same way that Vermont-style politics doesn't play well in West Virginia... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #18
Don't bring West Virginia into this. progressoid Jan 2019 #24
Actually I wasn't talking about Manchin. The point you're missing is that politics are regional and... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #27
Perhaps you should have started regional politics instead of race. progressoid Jan 2019 #28
You know perfectly well it was about regional politics... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #29
Nope. progressoid Jan 2019 #30
Wrong again. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #31
Thanks for missing the point. progressoid Jan 2019 #36
No, thank YOU! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #37
And...there it is. progressoid Jan 2019 #38
There's nothing at all perfunctory about it. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #40
You really haven't hit anything Lordquinton Jan 2019 #32
My "crusade", eh? Oh that's hysterical. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #34
Wait, what? TexasTowelie Jan 2019 #44
Ethic Diversity Does Matter. BS is only the "most popular Cha Jan 2019 #42
Yeah, in Vermont.. Shocking!! Cha Jan 2019 #43
How the hell can Mitch McConnell's approval numbers be improving? True Dough Jan 2019 #3
Same idiots that approve of drumpf! democratisphere Jan 2019 #7
I Question The Validity ProfessorGAC Jan 2019 #4
Durbin will win by 10 points again, easily..... beachbum bob Jan 2019 #6
The headline's misleading. These results are based each senator's constituency... WePurrsevere Jan 2019 #5
Vermont lacks ethnic diversity. I'm sure it's easy for him to say and do things... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #10
This is all very true but Vermonters like him because they... WePurrsevere Jan 2019 #12
So you will be relieved to recall that a recent Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #15
No, they won't be relieved, but they will ignore it. Nt aidbo Jan 2019 #39
So the less diverse states should have higher approval ratings? Lordquinton Jan 2019 #33
They always are when it comes to Bernie's "popularity". MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #20
It sometimes seems that way. All that does is annoy me... WePurrsevere Jan 2019 #22
I don't know who runs this polling, but it's totally wrong. Rene Jan 2019 #11
The polling was only to see how popular they are in 'their' state... WePurrsevere Jan 2019 #13
So these are ratings by their own constituents, right? nt LAS14 Jan 2019 #19
I think I made a mistake ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #21
This poll reflects popularity across all voters (Ds, Rs and Inds) in each state. honest.abe Jan 2019 #23
A perfect example of regional differences. Patrick Leahy at #2 and John Barrasso at a very close #3 herding cats Jan 2019 #25
Terrible approval ratings for Cory in Colorado. BlueStater Jan 2019 #35
hey Mitch, Sens. Flake and McCaskill are no longer in the senate 0rganism Jan 2019 #41

TexasTowelie

(111,932 posts)
2. As the article states:
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 07:20 AM
Jan 2019
Sen. Bernie Sanders maintained his position as America’s most popular senator, with 64 percent of voters in his state approving of him. As he considers a second run for the presidency, the Vermont independent tops the list for the 11th quarter in a row.


Congratulations to Senator Sanders for winning the approval of voters in his state.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Congratulations to Senator Sanders for winning the approval of voters IN HIS STATE.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:59 AM
Jan 2019
Congratulations to Senator Sanders for winning the approval of voters in his state.
Vermont has a very white and homogeneous population doesn't it? In a state that lacks ethnic diversity I'm certain it's much easier to say and do things that the majority would approve of.

The tiny state of Rhode Island has a bigger population than Vermont. Washington DC has a bigger population that Vermont (and it's much more ethnically diverse too.) So, with such a small sampling... I personally find it just as difficult to be impressed with this poll as I was the FIRST time.

progressoid

(49,944 posts)
14. Ethnic diversity doesn't matter.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:08 PM
Jan 2019

Hawaii is third most ethnically diverse state in the Union and both of its Senators made the top ten "most approved". Conversely, Kentucky is the 6th least ethnically diverse state (Vermont is the 3rd), yet its Senator is the 3rd most disapproved.

As for small sampling; with the exception of Alaska and Wyoming, it appears they were able to poll enough people for a 1-3% margin of error.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. I think it speaks more to the Hawaiian senator's skills as a politician...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:17 PM
Jan 2019

I think it speaks more to the Hawaiian senator's skills as a politician since they clearly have a bigger challenge.

progressoid

(49,944 posts)
17. Maybe they should give Bob Menendez some lessons.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:41 PM
Jan 2019

New Jersey is pretty diverse but Bob ain't too popular with his voters.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. In the same way that Vermont-style politics doesn't play well in West Virginia...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:46 PM
Jan 2019

... I believe it's safe to say that Hawaiian-style politics won't do as well in NJ. But you get an "E" for effort and thinking creatively.

progressoid

(49,944 posts)
24. Don't bring West Virginia into this.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:31 PM
Jan 2019

They are even less diverse than Vermont. So by your earlier "reasoning", Joe Manchin should be at the top of the list. But he's hovering in the middle.

Sorry, it's not thinking creatively, but thinking critically.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
27. Actually I wasn't talking about Manchin. The point you're missing is that politics are regional and...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:58 PM
Jan 2019
So by your earlier "reasoning", Joe Manchin should be at the top of the list.
Actually, I wasn't talking about Manchin at all. The point you're missing is that politics are regional and the things (and tactics) that work in one area don't necessarily work well in another area. To help illustrate that point, I chose regions representing two extremes.

Oh, don't be so modest! It was indeed creative thinking! It really doesn't rise to the level of critical thinking since an important fact was being overlooked: Hawaii ain't New Jersey.

But he's hovering in the middle.
Not bad for a Democrat in a very very VERY red state! Props to Manchin! He's doing great considering what he's got to work with. I'm THRILLED to have him as a Democrat representing West Virginia!

progressoid

(49,944 posts)
28. Perhaps you should have started regional politics instead of race.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 03:14 PM
Jan 2019

Your post was about race, not regional politics. Quote:

Vermont has a very white and homogeneous population doesn't it? In a state that lacks ethnic diversity I'm certain it's much easier to say and do things that the majority would approve of.








NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
29. You know perfectly well it was about regional politics...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 04:15 PM
Jan 2019
Your post was about race, not regional politics.
You know perfectly well it was about regional politics, and in Vermont, race is one obvious metric that distinguishes that state from other states (or regions).

Fact of the matter is, in very white Vermont: Bernie has a very easy go of it! This is especially true when one considers the fact that he doesn't need to worry about doing MANY things to satisfy the VARYING needs and concerns of a DIVERSE demographic. All I'm trying to say is, if the non-white population of Vermont is not happy with Bernie, then it only hurts him 4% or so. Mathematically, it's very easy for him to be popular among his Vermont constituents. But, I think it's very safe to say that he wouldn't have the same appeal in Alabama, or Mississippi, or Florida.

Perhaps you should have started regional politics instead of race.
Looks like I hit a nerve.

progressoid

(49,944 posts)
30. Nope.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 05:45 PM
Jan 2019
You know perfectly well it was about regional politics, and in Vermont, race is one obvious metric that distinguishes that state from other states (or regions).


Nope. I didn't know perfectly well it was about regional politics because you didn't bring it up until later.

Fact of the matter is, in very white Vermont: Bernie has a very easy go of it! This is especially true when one considers the fact that he doesn't need to worry about doing MANY things to satisfy the VARYING needs and concerns of a DIVERSE demographic. All I'm trying to say is, if the non-white population of Vermont is not happy with Bernie, then it only hurts him 4% or so. Mathematically, it's very easy for him to be popular among his Vermont constituents.


So you're back to defending race as being a determining factor for his popularity. Sorry, that dog don't hunt.

Let's use your metric for other white states. Vermont is approx 96% white. Sanders gets 64% approval. Other states are nearly as white so their Senators should be able to capitalize on that whiteness as well right?

Fact of the matter is, in very white Iowa (93%): Ernst has a very easy go of it! - Nope: 40% approval.
Fact of the matter is, in very white West Virginia (94%): Manchin has a very easy go of it! - Nope: 43% approval.
Fact of the matter is, in very white Idaho (92%): Risch has a very easy go of it! - Nope: 43% approval.


But those are in different regions you say. True. So what about 95% white New Hampshire. Right next door to super white Vermont. That should be just as easy for those Senators with such a homogeneous group. Yet they only get 48% and 51% approval from their constituents.

Maybe. Just maybe. This isn't about being white.

But, I think it's very safe to say that he wouldn't have the same appeal in Alabama, or Mississippi, or Florida.


As you correctly stated earlier, this poll is about "winning the approval of voters in his state." So his appeal in Alabama etc is immaterial.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
31. Wrong again.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 06:05 PM
Jan 2019
As you correctly stated earlier, this poll is about "winning the approval of voters in his state." So his appeal in Alabama etc is immaterial.
Wrong again. It's not "immaterial"... it's an example of how it's easy to be popular in a state that lacks diversity. Alabama, Mississippi and Florida are examples of states that have more diversity that Vermont.

None of those states are as homogeneous as Vermont. Thanks for helping to make my point.

Maybe. Just maybe. This isn't about being white.
Possibly, but unlikely. There's no denying that he's got an easy crowd to please that lacks diversity. Even now, outside the safe confines of his own state, his popularity among POC is a bit tepid (to put it politely.)

progressoid

(49,944 posts)
36. Thanks for missing the point.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 07:00 PM
Jan 2019
it's an example of how it's easy to be popular in a state that lacks diversity. Alabama, Mississippi and Florida are examples of states that have more diversity that Vermont.


Actually, California is the most diverse state where Harris and Feinstein are both at 43%. The same as Manchin and Risch in their super white states.


I'll post this again a little slower this time so it's easier to read. These states also lack diversity yet their Senators are not as popular with their white voters.

Fact of the matter is, in very white Iowa (93%): Ernst: 40% approval.
Fact of the matter is, in very white West Virginia (94%): Manchin: 43% approval.
Fact of the matter is, in very white Idaho (92%): Risch: 43% approval.
Fact of the matter is, in very white New Hampshire (95%): Hassan: 48% approval.


Even now, outside the safe confines of his own state, his popularity among POC is a bit tepid


Again, this poll has nothing to do with voters outside his own state.
Nor, for that matter, race.
It is immaterial.


NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
34. My "crusade", eh? Oh that's hysterical.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 06:07 PM
Jan 2019
Your arguments undermine each other in your crusade to undermine the Union's most popular senator.


When you make it personal, that means you're losing.

TexasTowelie

(111,932 posts)
44. Wait, what?
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:09 PM
Jan 2019

You are the person that mentioned Bob Menendez out of the blue. Are you certain that wasn't about race?

True Dough

(17,246 posts)
3. How the hell can Mitch McConnell's approval numbers be improving?
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 07:25 AM
Jan 2019

I'm glad he's only risen to 38%, but what those 38% see in him, I'll never understand.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
4. I Question The Validity
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 07:34 AM
Jan 2019

Durbin at 36/39/25? He won his last election by 11%!
Duckworth at least was net positive but she won by a clear margin!

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
5. The headline's misleading. These results are based each senator's constituency...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 07:44 AM
Jan 2019

The survey wasn't about how Americans in general feel about them.

Growing up next door in upstate NY and having family in VT, I'm not surprised Vermonters still highly approve of Bernie.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
10. Vermont lacks ethnic diversity. I'm sure it's easy for him to say and do things...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:08 AM
Jan 2019

Vermont lacks ethnic diversity. I'm sure it's easy for him to say and do things that the majority find agreeable. It's also a very tiny tiny state with a population less than that of Rhode Island... or even less than Washington DC, or Jacksonville, or Seattle, or Baltimore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermont#Demographics

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
12. This is all very true but Vermonters like him because they...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:30 AM
Jan 2019

Perceive him as a plain speaking New Englander like they consider themselves to be.

I've watched Bernie for many years and overall I like his stances on issues but I didn't vote for him in the primaries and I'd be even less likely to now although if he won the Dem nomination I'd of course vote for him to be President. (and I wouldn't even have to hold my nose too much. )

Mind you I think even our rescued feral cat, Ember, would make a better president than Trump. She's a bit wild but she's actually very intelligent and not certifiably nuts or in Putin's pocket like Trump and his cult.

Voltaire2

(12,957 posts)
15. So you will be relieved to recall that a recent
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 01:08 PM
Jan 2019

poll found that Senator Sanders, a prominent member of the Senate Democratic Caucus, and part of the caucus leadership, has strong support from minority voters across the country.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
33. So the less diverse states should have higher approval ratings?
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jan 2019

And more diverse states should have lower ones, does that hold true?

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
22. It sometimes seems that way. All that does is annoy me...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:05 PM
Jan 2019

Just give me the facts with decent sources not spin, lies or attacks on others or myself who ask questions.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
13. The polling was only to see how popular they are in 'their' state...
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 09:38 AM
Jan 2019

so it's not going to be reflective of the general US population's opinion.

honest.abe

(8,614 posts)
23. This poll reflects popularity across all voters (Ds, Rs and Inds) in each state.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:11 PM
Jan 2019

Its no wonder both VT Senators are 1 and 2. Vermont has the highest percent of Dem/Dem leaning voters in the country. Many Dem Senators are in states with high numbers of Repubs which pulls their numbers down and that doesn't mean they are poor or less effective Senators. The poll has little value in my opinion in regard to comparing Senator to Senator. Waste of effort IMO.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
25. A perfect example of regional differences. Patrick Leahy at #2 and John Barrasso at a very close #3
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 02:34 PM
Jan 2019

They're polar opposites politically but both highly liked their states.

Looking at John Cornyn's 32% no opinion to his 43% favorable... I can't decide if that's good or bad news for him being voted out in 2020.

I suppose with the right candidate, and depending on how things go with Trump and his wall, we may be able to flip enough of those no opinion folks into the disapprove column.

0rganism

(23,924 posts)
41. hey Mitch, Sens. Flake and McCaskill are no longer in the senate
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 08:03 PM
Jan 2019

which puts one Sen. McConnell as THE SINGLE MOST DISAPPROVED-OF SENATOR.

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