CNN: Stone entered the CH with his legs shackled and his hands shackled to his waist.

[mobeau69]

Damn, they used the leg shackles!

[The Truth Is Here]

1. I'm sure the boys are going to love the Nixon tattoo in the back.

I hope they remand him, not give him any bail.

He has the means to flee.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

2. Signature bond 250 grand

Limit on travel

No flight risk

[The Truth Is Here]

4. basically ROR..

He got off easy.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. They took his passport away, which would be normal.

He isn't going anywhere.

[rainin]

38. Men like him don't need passports to travel. They can move around on a private plane.

They can go virtually anywhere and get waved through.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

39. You need a passport even if you're traveling by private plane.

An international flight on a private aircraft has to make prior arrangements with customs officials; you can't just waltz into another country without a passport because you arrived in your own airplane.

[jberryhill]

43. You can if you are their guest

The principal utility of a passport is to make it easier to re-enter the US.

Yes, of course, a lot of countries won't let you enter if you just show up without one. Some do, some don't.

You can just walk right into Mexico at the pedestrian crossing at San Ysidro - no questions asked other than "Taxi?" If you do that without a passport, you'll have no problem until you want to get back into the US. (Ultimately, it will just slow you down a lot, since as a US citizen you have an inherent right to enter the US.)

Snowden got into Russia after revocation of his passport just fine.

If the Russians want to welcome Stone into their country in whatever manner he gets there, then that's entirely up to the Russians.

What he would not want to do is to transit through any other country in the process. If he leaves the US and the US notifies Interpol of the warrant, then he can be stopped and detained during international transit through any country which will honor the Interpol notice.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

46. What I was thinking of is the possibility that Stone would try to head for someplace unexpected

where he could hide. If Russia wants him, as far as I'm concerned they can have him.

[jberryhill]

48. Ah

The real trick is getting that duplex in the London Ecuadorian Embassy without being caught trying to get there.

[rainin]

60. Totally depends on your economic status.

This has been reported on many times. My millionaire boss personally experienced traveling with an extremely wealthy party and learned first hand that passports are for the rest of us. Millionaires and Billionaires have no borders.

[Canoe52]

34. Is that real, I assumed it was photoshopped.

If it is real

what a dumb ass!

[whopis01]

40. I thought the same thing - but no, it is real. n/t

[ADX]

3. That's standard operating procedure for a Federal prisoner...

...making a preliminary court appearance hours after arrest...

[2naSalit]

22. Exactly.

[democratisphere]

5. Increases the drama effect.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

6. Welcome to your time in the barrel, Roger.

NEXT!

[George II]

24. bwahahahahaha!!!! I forgot about that comment. He'll be in a "barrel" the rest of his life.

[C_U_L8R]

7. Get used to it, Roger.

Just wait, your fellow inmates will play ring toss with your magnificent cone.

[NurseJackie]

8. I can't wait for photos!

[2naSalit]

23. +1

[gratuitous]

10. I hope he got to cancel his appointment at his swingers club this weekend

You're allowed one phone call: Your mouthpiece, or risk losing your reservation at the club? What a dilemma for Roger! Maybe his attorney was watching CNN this morning, so Roger doesn't have to call him.

[BamaRefugee]

31. He'll have TONS of willing partners in the Big House. SWING ON Stoney!

[tinrobot]

11. I want pictures!!

[marble falls]

12. Classic perp walk. His back tattoo must be very proud. And it seems he'll be in a cell over ...

the weekend. I hope its at Rikers Island. Might loosen his tongue and unstarch his spine.

[PJMcK]

33. Rikers Island is a city jail in New York

Wasn't Stone arrested in Florida by Federal authorities?

[marble falls]

59. Isn't the indictments out of a US court in NYC? It seems he got a signature bond. He should thank

Democrats and Obama for that. His lawnorder comrades are against signature bonds.

[MrGrieves]

13. F*#$ Me! He doesn't have to go to jail today!

BULLS#*T!

[Hekate]

15. What on earth are you talking about?

[MrGrieves]

19. Sorry

Sorry was listening to Steph Miller and they were talking about how because of circumstances of the indictment he may be going off to jail today but then he was able to leave without the orange jumpsuit.

[obamanut2012]

17. not unusual for something like this

[MrGrieves]

18. Not unusual for people of his status.

It is unusual for most people.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

42. White collar crime, no prior criminal record, posted $250K bond.

This would be normal for anyone.

[jberryhill]

44. Ah, the pesky Constitution

You know, whoever put all of those amendments in there dealing with rights of accused, and even convicted, criminals, was a real troublemaker.

[MrGrieves]

45. You mean like being held without bail?

That never happens.

[jberryhill]

47. It happens under the right circumstances

The Constitution forbids excessive bail.

Does denial of bail happen? You bet it does - but only under limited circumstances.

Stone is a non-violent criminal with no reason to believe he is a flight risk. Please explain how the criteria for denial of bail would apply to Stone.

This may help:

https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/criminal/criminal-law-basics/denying-bail-for-a-dangerous-defendant.html


Hostility to the rule of law tends to be a regular feature of DU discussions, though.

[MrGrieves]

49. Right like I said earlier

On the radio they were talking about how specifics surrounding this may have meant that he would be going to jail today. I have no idea how informed they were on those specifics, and I am no legal expert either. It would have been nice to see him in the clink if it was possible for him to have to sit in lockup.

[jberryhill]

53. Ah....

What would have been wonderful is if the court was short-handed due to the shutdown, and couldn't process him out.

[Hekate]

14. Nice touch. Sounds like they made him dress in a hurry, too: no suit and tie.

Actually, the choice of attire (rumpled polo shirt and sweat pants) has me visualizing an agent grabbing something out of the laundry basket.

Roger Stone has entered a new world, and he is not in charge of it.

[UpInArms]

16. I want pictures!

Stone being frogmarched is one of my bucket list items

[LuckyLib]

37. Along with the entire Trump criminal cabal.

I want to see perp walks and orange jumpsuits!

[volstork]

20. This makes me

unbelievably happy!

[Mr. Ected]

21. A rolled Stone colludes no mas

*couldn't help myself*

[Amsterdammer]

25. And from his new cellmates...

..."No STONE left unturned"

[Mr. Ected]

26. That you bro?

Great minds and all....

[Amsterdammer]

29. Yep, that's me, bro...

...catching up on DU with all the delightful news of the day!

[McCamy Taylor]

27. He'll be ok. He is "connected".

[Tarc]

28. Are there pics? Please tell me there's pics

[Sneederbunk]

30. Russia if you are listening, free this man.

[Honeycombe8]

32. CH? nt

[Volaris]

35. Court House

[Azathoth]

36. Stone is such a loathsome turd I doubt they will give him any dignity-saving courtesies

When professional assholes go down, they go down hard.

[IronLionZion]

41. Are there pics or video of him in shackles?

I've been searching and haven't seen the shackles.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

50. When they arrested him this morning they used a tarp of some kind

to cover up his walk to the FBI's vehicle so the news helicopters couldn't see or video.

[SunSeeker]

55. Do you have a link?

If the FBI used a tarp, that certainly dispells the lie pushed by InfoWars that CNN was tipped off by Mueller so they could have the perp walk on camera.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

56. There's this:

https://globalnews.ca/video/4888925/aerial-footage-shows-federal-agents-pouring-over-roger-stones-house-following-arrest

You can see that there are some kind of tents or tarps covering Stone's walk to the FBI vehicle.

[SunSeeker]

57. Those weren't there when the FBI first went to his front door.

The arrest video that is out there just shows FBI agents going to Stone's door, him opening it, then it cuts off. But no tarps and canopies.

Looks like those tarps and canopies were put up after the arrest, as they were executing their search warrant on Stone's house. Looks like they've settled it for the day for the warrant search. I bet they'll find some amazing stuff.

I wonder how the FBI got Stone from the front door to their vehicles. They may have seen the media out front, so they brought a vehicle around back and loaded him in.

Regardless, it is pretty clear CNN was just monitoring the indictment filings and following a hunch, and got lucky. But still did not get the money shot of Stone in shackles. If there was a tip off by Mueller, Mueller would have let CNN get that shot. Obviously they did did. Plus, the Mueller team would never tip off. The Mueller team members, like Mueller, don't leak.

[Wednesdays]

58. Yeah, the same treatment they give an inner city Chicago teen

for shoplifting a sandwich.

[ancianita]

51. No google images of him entering the court house shackled. Are you sure you saw a photo?

[jberryhill]

54. The OP does not mention a photo

Federal courts in general don't have public cameras, and certainly not for initial appearances.

So, no appearance on American Bandstand for Stone...

[Hugin]

52. A BIG BEAUTIFUL PERP WALK!i1!!

Wooo!