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arenean

(456 posts)
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 06:51 AM Feb 2019

Revealed: FBI investigated civil rights group as 'terrorism' threat and viewed KKK as victims

Bureau spied on California activists, citing potential ‘conspiracy’ against the ‘rights’ of neo-Nazis

The FBI opened a “domestic terrorism” investigation into a civil rights group in California, labeling the activists “extremists” after they protested against neo-Nazis in 2016, new documents reveal.

Federal authorities ran a surveillance operation on By Any Means Necessary (Bamn), spying on the leftist group’s movements in an inquiry that came after one of Bamn’s members was stabbed at the white supremacist rally, according to documents obtained by the Guardian. The FBI’s Bamn files reveal:

The FBI investigated Bamn for potential “conspiracy” against the “rights” of the “Ku Klux Klan” and white supremacists.

The FBI considered the KKK as victims and the leftist protesters as potential terror threats, and downplayed the threats of the Klan, writing: “The KKK consisted of members that some perceived to be supportive of a white supremacist agenda.”

The FBI’s monitoring included in-person surveillance, and the agency cited Bamn’s advocacy against “rape and sexual assault” and “police brutality” as evidence in the terrorism inquiry.


[link:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/01/sacramento-rally-fbi-kkk-domestic-terrorism-california|




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Revealed: FBI investigated civil rights group as 'terrorism' threat and viewed KKK as victims (Original Post) arenean Feb 2019 OP
Always been that way. 2naSalit Feb 2019 #1
I've got a file,too. Scruffy1 Feb 2019 #4
WTF !!! Is the plot for a alternate reality TV show?nt procon Feb 2019 #2
the KKK stabbed them KayF Feb 2019 #3
This is why I am reserving judgment HopeAgain Feb 2019 #5
Filed under the "No Duh!" file next to "The Sky is Blue" ... marble falls Feb 2019 #6
Same as it ever was. shanny Feb 2019 #7
So freaking sad Johnny2X2X Feb 2019 #8
anti war people have always been followed scarytomcat Feb 2019 #9
Can't investigate the Klan, might lead to embarrassing some powerful people bigbrother05 Feb 2019 #10
.. Mc Mike Feb 2019 #11
I really hate being a fascist! Basta! ananda Feb 2019 #12
Popo in Cali have been siding with the nazis for some time now... pecosbob Feb 2019 #13

2naSalit

(86,508 posts)
1. Always been that way.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 06:57 AM
Feb 2019

I probably have a couple files in the archives for my conservationist activism.

And this practice was fortified by the PATRIOT Act.

Scruffy1

(3,254 posts)
4. I've got a file,too.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:28 AM
Feb 2019

Local agents always thought it was a joke and perform pro forma on instructions from DC. This certainly didn't end with Hoover or with the Church Committee. The good new is that they have so many files on leftists they don't know what to do with them. There is safety in numbers. Their modus operandi has been to single out one prominent lefty once in a while and convene a grand jury. Nothing ever happens, but they've appeased the masters of the universe. The FBI has informants in all the anti-war groups as well as the very vocal conservation groups like the anti pipeline people (I am one).When you've been around as long as I have you just assume there is a snitch in every organization. The scary part is that these informants oftem make up information to appease their masters (or get paid) and also serve as agent provacatiers. They even went after the mail around here during the RNC in 2008. No knock warrants, bust the front door off, and then get the inspectors to tag the house as uninhabitable because it didn't have door. This actually happened to some artists in my neighvorhood. Of course the local politicians for the most part were afraid to speak out.
If anything we've become a more authoritarian state. I remember when the Wounded Knee stuff was happening the Republican governor of Iowa stopped the Feds from stopping cars and searching them in his state because they might have "indians" in them. I'm still not sure how you identify "Indians". My son has more Indian blood than me and is lighter skinned.
You are correct. The patriot act was full on fascism. The media sold fear and people bought.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
5. This is why I am reserving judgment
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:48 AM
Feb 2019

on Mueller and his investigation. Looks like they might be doing it right, but there is so much we don't know. Especially when it comes to them looking at Trump.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
6. Filed under the "No Duh!" file next to "The Sky is Blue" ...
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:50 AM
Feb 2019

“The KKK consisted of members that some perceived to be supportive of a white supremacist agenda.”

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
7. Same as it ever was.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:50 AM
Feb 2019

There was a retired FBI agent on Fux just the other day who said when he was in they prevented progressives and soshulists from getting into office...something like that. It's probably in the original mission statement.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
9. anti war people have always been followed
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:59 AM
Feb 2019

the left is and has been a threat to the right wing authoritarians

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
10. Can't investigate the Klan, might lead to embarrassing some powerful people
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:48 AM
Feb 2019

Either by participation or association

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
11. ..
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:48 AM
Feb 2019

"California law enforcement subsequently worked with the neo-Nazis to identify counter-protesters, pursued charges against stabbing victims and other anti-fascists, and decided not to prosecute any men on the far-right for the stabbings."

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