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applegrove

(118,600 posts)
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 10:52 PM Feb 2019

Warren Claimed Indian Heritage for the State of Texas Bar

Warren Claimed Indian Heritage for the State of Texas Bar

https://politicalwire.com/2019/02/05/warren-claimed-indian-heritage-for-the-state-of-texas-bar/

February 5, 2019 at 7:27 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 184 Comments

"SNIP....

Using an open records request during a general inquiry, the Washington Post obtained Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s (D-MA) registration card for the State Bar of Texas, providing a previously undisclosed example of Warren identifying as an “American Indian.”

“Warren filled out the card by hand in neat blue ink and signed it. Dated April 1986, it is the first document to surface showing Warren making the claim in her own handwriting. Her office didn’t dispute its authenticity.”

....SNIP"

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Warren Claimed Indian Heritage for the State of Texas Bar (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2019 OP
notice how the media never vetted trump like this prior to the election EveHammond13 Feb 2019 #1
+1. dalton99a Feb 2019 #4
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2019 #5
They never vetted Bernie either Apollyonus Feb 2019 #7
Bernie is not the enemy, aim your fire at Trump. nt at140 Feb 2019 #31
A lot of the Trump corruption was out there before the election NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #14
exactly. all of the mob stuff, the sex assaults.... plenty was out there. EveHammond13 Feb 2019 #15
Absolutely right. Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2019 #30
She was told by her family she was. I know Repugs will hit her on this--it almost is as bad as riversedge Feb 2019 #2
And Warren has American Indian heritage gratuitous Feb 2019 #3
+1000 Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2019 #18
Let's all pile up on all candidates Apollyonus Feb 2019 #6
It's annoying, isn't it ornotna Feb 2019 #22
ty for keeping abreast of my posts Apollyonus Feb 2019 #25
Happy to help ornotna Feb 2019 #28
Actually, we have no choice. Our standard is now "zero tolerance," ecstatic Feb 2019 #27
When you are a young adult, and have little history of your own, you borrow applegrove Feb 2019 #8
I was told my great grandmother was a Roma healer. leftyladyfrommo Feb 2019 #11
It is amazing what you can get on databases these days. I got a baptismal applegrove Feb 2019 #13
I followed it back as far as my grandmother. leftyladyfrommo Feb 2019 #17
Interesting. I wonder if there are DNA markers for them. I know when I did applegrove Feb 2019 #19
Sorry, it's going to kill her. Moral: DO NOT give an inch to Trump. marylandblue Feb 2019 #9
There's our candidate then superpatriotman Feb 2019 #12
Too bad she isn't running. Maybe she can teach Trump-taming classes. marylandblue Feb 2019 #16
It'll kill her campaign only if rusty fender Feb 2019 #20
No it shouldn't matter at all, but Trump poisoned the well for her. marylandblue Feb 2019 #26
So? nt Baltimike Feb 2019 #10
This reeks of oppo research from another 2020 candidate theboss Feb 2019 #21
Trump defrauded thousands with his fake school bigtree Feb 2019 #23
I think she should step aside. ecstatic Feb 2019 #24
this shows that her belief in her heritage was sincere renate Feb 2019 #29

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
14. A lot of the Trump corruption was out there before the election
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:15 PM
Feb 2019

it got lost in the multiple daily Trump scandals that were going to be the straw that broke the camel's back, and Hillary's emails.

 

EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
15. exactly. all of the mob stuff, the sex assaults.... plenty was out there.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:17 PM
Feb 2019

they let Michael Cohen bully and cow them into dumping stories on it

riversedge

(70,182 posts)
2. She was told by her family she was. I know Repugs will hit her on this--it almost is as bad as
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 10:57 PM
Feb 2019

Hillary and emails. They will continue. It is so wrong. so wrong.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. And Warren has American Indian heritage
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 10:58 PM
Feb 2019

Still haven't detected the controversy here. Did she get some kind of preference? Or was the question a way for the Bar to track the ethnic diversity of its members? Maybe if I multiplied the magnifying power of an electron microscope by the Hubble Telescope, I could see why this is such a hobbyhorse for conservawhackos?

ecstatic

(32,679 posts)
27. Actually, we have no choice. Our standard is now "zero tolerance,"
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:47 PM
Feb 2019

which means we have to vet the hell out of everyone during the primaries.

applegrove

(118,600 posts)
8. When you are a young adult, and have little history of your own, you borrow
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:05 PM
Feb 2019

from your ancestors. Family stories get passed down and you believe them and internalize them. My grandfather and his distant cousin got to thinking they were descendant from a family that was in the French court: Sully. When I went to France I stopped in at thei city house that was still named after them and I think had my picture taken there. It was only when I did genealogy and followed the family and name way back almost a 700 years in England that I realized it was in no way true. Some good came out of it. When my grandfather stopped in Paris during the occupation by the allies during and/or after WWII, he looked up the family name and found someone by that name who were struggling. He gave them some money. Sometimes the family stories totally compute when you do research on them. I've had that happen too. And am now trying to verify one such myth a little further. The basics of it match exactly so far as can be proved on a baptismal certificate. The story is true up to that point. I need more information on the rest of the story. Point is if you are called to the bar and fill out a card you are at the point in your life where you are still buying into the story of one branch or another. And you identify with that. You are the base of the tree. Then you get married and have kids and your children are the focus of all the stories for a generation. Then when you suddenly have time because your kids are almost grown you take a second older look at your history. With adult eyes. And compare notes. And maybe do a little genealogy using more modern resources.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
11. I was told my great grandmother was a Roma healer.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:11 PM
Feb 2019

Was it true? I have no idea. Makes for a good story though.

applegrove

(118,600 posts)
13. It is amazing what you can get on databases these days. I got a baptismal
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:13 PM
Feb 2019

document from Scotland in 20 minutes. Why don't you suss it out? It is fun if you are patient.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
17. I followed it back as far as my grandmother.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:25 PM
Feb 2019

I don't even know their names or where they lived. My grandfather came over from Germany. He ended up the town drunk. Left my grandmother and lived in a shack outside of town. No one ever talked about him. I think that was the side the Roma came from. If she really existed it would have been in Europe.

Everyone else is Scots Irish. One uncle rode with Quantrill. It is a real mish mash. But no Native Americans I don't think.



applegrove

(118,600 posts)
19. Interesting. I wonder if there are DNA markers for them. I know when I did
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:29 PM
Feb 2019

a DNA test on my dad it came back that we had come from central Asia back 35,000 years ago so we are cousins.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
9. Sorry, it's going to kill her. Moral: DO NOT give an inch to Trump.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:07 PM
Feb 2019

It's amazing something so small can take a good candidate down. Only Pelosi has beaten him so far. She didn't give an inch.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
20. It'll kill her campaign only if
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:41 PM
Feb 2019

we Democratic Party members allow it to kill her campaign. There were DUers falling all over themselves to plead for a second chance for Northham, but will they give Warren the benefit of the doubt on this?

And should something so significant as her answer on this form derail her candidacy, for fuck’s sake?

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
26. No it shouldn't matter at all, but Trump poisoned the well for her.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:47 PM
Feb 2019

If she were the nominee, we'll be talking about DNA tests like we talked about emails in 2016.

You know what we won't be talking about? Trump used to pretend he was Swedish. That's how Warren should have responded. But it's too late now.

 

theboss

(10,491 posts)
21. This reeks of oppo research from another 2020 candidate
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:44 PM
Feb 2019

Trump has been picking at the scab for years, but there is no reason for a Republican to drop this knowledge today.

ecstatic

(32,679 posts)
24. I think she should step aside.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:46 PM
Feb 2019

The situation has spiraled, and back in the 80s she was a republican. Her presence will be missed but thankfully we have a robust field of lifelong democrats.

renate

(13,776 posts)
29. this shows that her belief in her heritage was sincere
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:48 PM
Feb 2019

It's not like she got extra credit or cookies for being Native American. She believed it to be true and so that's the statement she made.

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