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and when is MSNBC going to get rid of Chris Matthews??? (Original Post) a kennedy Feb 2019 OP
agree... agingdem Feb 2019 #1
He was worthless long before he was old. n/t QC Feb 2019 #2
Do you have an actual objection? brooklynite Feb 2019 #3
Yes, he just didn't know how to question the two awesome women a kennedy Feb 2019 #6
...which has what to do with his age? brooklynite Feb 2019 #8
It has to do with NOT GETTING THAT THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE has moved on a kennedy Feb 2019 #11
That has nothing to do with age, and if that is your defense, then you should remove the "he's old, still_one Feb 2019 #40
He's always unprepared, he can't seem to bother with Raine Feb 2019 #22
yes...and Andrea Mitchell too agingdem Feb 2019 #9
Sometimes I wonder if he has "dirt" on some higher up Raine Feb 2019 #4
Be careful what you wish for, yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2019 #5
Not soon enough.... n/t Glamrock Feb 2019 #7
Well,I'm 72 this month but won't leave DU just because of that, neither on grounds of unpopularity!1 UTUSN Feb 2019 #10
My husband is 73 and he thinks Chris has stayed to long as well. a kennedy Feb 2019 #15
Staying too long can be unrelated to age. UTUSN Feb 2019 #17
Exactly. The OP specifically says "he's old, he's old", and then tries to say it isn't about age still_one Feb 2019 #41
Thanks. It's you and me, kid!1 UTUSN Feb 2019 #43
I think there is a lot of us still_one Feb 2019 #44
Thanks for the ageism. Any other prejudices you have that you would like to share TeamPooka Feb 2019 #12
Please........I really try to curtail my objections to the talking heads, but Chris to me has really a kennedy Feb 2019 #16
Please...You need to find better ways to critique a pundit than that TeamPooka Feb 2019 #27
Fuck your ageism. stopbush Feb 2019 #59
What's wrong with him isn't that he's old. There's nothing wrong with being old The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #13
This. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2019 #19
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #20
The First Rule of Holes is that when you're in one you should stop digging. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #24
Well ok then....... a kennedy Feb 2019 #26
Ageism is the last "acceptable" prejudice and I hate to see it on DU. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #28
Curious.......how young are you? a kennedy Feb 2019 #29
I'm old, retired, but not useless. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #32
Ha ha ha.......ditto. a kennedy Feb 2019 #34
Everything you hate about Matthews that you just listed, he has been doing for decades TeamPooka Feb 2019 #31
Thank you. This expression of ageism is really hurtful. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #33
Seriously and they just keep repeating it over and over. So f'n offensive. TeamPooka Feb 2019 #35
I wonder what they'd say about Matthews if he was female or a PoC? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #37
Age has nothing to do with his likability or skill. Glimmer of Hope Feb 2019 #14
It's his loathsome personality that is so wrong for a news talk show. Judi Lynn Feb 2019 #18
and OMGWD, thanks for this. a kennedy Feb 2019 #21
He's the Lou Holtz of politics. GaYellowDawg Feb 2019 #23
Joy needs to replace Tweety in that time slot. Elwood P Dowd Feb 2019 #25
I don't have an issue with Tweety's age at all. MontanaMama Feb 2019 #30
Chris Matthews is still very good once in a while Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #36
Love Chris lillypaddle Feb 2019 #38
LOL I don't care for him, and I am no spring chicken, but I don't like posts that imply anti-age still_one Feb 2019 #42
That's how I feel about Joe Biden---we need young blood. virgogal Feb 2019 #39
When he doesn't draw advertisers money fescuerescue Feb 2019 #45
They should at least change the name of his show DFW Feb 2019 #46
Perfecto! n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2019 #47
+++++++++ JHan Feb 2019 #50
I call it "Hairball" because Matthews just pukes stuff up randomly The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #60
I'm a huge Matthews fan and loooong time admirer and I find it pretty easy to... lamp_shade Feb 2019 #48
His age is not the problem JHan Feb 2019 #49
When I'm able to... Mike Nelson Feb 2019 #51
He is way past the fresh date njhoneybadger Feb 2019 #52
Don't you have a channel selector or off switch wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #53
Ageism on DU??? I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked. Cousin Dupree Feb 2019 #54
I stopped watching him long ago, duforsure Feb 2019 #55
I hope you have a better reason than just that he is older leftyladyfrommo Feb 2019 #56
Chris Matthews is brilliant, yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2019 #57
Chris has his moments but I still like him at times. Rachel once stated that she looked up to him. Dem_4_Life Feb 2019 #58

a kennedy

(29,644 posts)
6. Yes, he just didn't know how to question the two awesome women
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:22 AM
Feb 2019

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her guest...... he just sounded rather blah and non excited about the women he was questioning. JMHO.

a kennedy

(29,644 posts)
11. It has to do with NOT GETTING THAT THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE has moved on
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:26 AM
Feb 2019

and he hasn’t moved with it. I realize he was a big time talking head back in the day, but his time has passed. AND AGAIN JMHO.

still_one

(92,126 posts)
40. That has nothing to do with age, and if that is your defense, then you should remove the "he's old,
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:44 AM
Feb 2019

he's old" comment, because that is exactly what your OP implies it is based on, his age.



Raine

(30,540 posts)
22. He's always unprepared, he can't seem to bother with
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:40 AM
Feb 2019

knowing anything about the people he's interviewing, he's really lazy and it shows.

agingdem

(7,843 posts)
9. yes...and Andrea Mitchell too
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:24 AM
Feb 2019

Matthews blathers on...he's not relevant..he pontificates...he's a "which way the wind is blowing" guy...he and Andrea Mitchell yearn for the old days of gee whiz can't we all get along beltway crap...and of course both hate the Clintons...

Raine

(30,540 posts)
4. Sometimes I wonder if he has "dirt" on some higher up
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:18 AM
Feb 2019

at the network, how else could he keep his job.

UTUSN

(70,680 posts)
10. Well,I'm 72 this month but won't leave DU just because of that, neither on grounds of unpopularity!1
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:25 AM
Feb 2019

still_one

(92,126 posts)
41. Exactly. The OP specifically says "he's old, he's old", and then tries to say it isn't about age
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:48 AM
Feb 2019

it is just he has been around too long.

Then why didn't the OP just say that in the OP instead of bringing in "he's old", assuming that people would assume that meant they meant he has been around too long.


a kennedy

(29,644 posts)
16. Please........I really try to curtail my objections to the talking heads, but Chris to me has really
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:32 AM
Feb 2019

lost his edge to add to the topics of today.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
13. What's wrong with him isn't that he's old. There's nothing wrong with being old
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:29 AM
Feb 2019

and to suggest that a tv host needs to go because he's old is offensive (and I don't care how old you are). What's wrong with Matthews is not even suggestive of age; if anything he has too much energy and doesn't know when to shut up; he talks over and interrupts his guests and says stupid shit without any filters. He has been doing this forever. It has nothing to do with his age.

Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #13)

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
24. The First Rule of Holes is that when you're in one you should stop digging.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:41 AM
Feb 2019

"That's what old people do"? No, they don't. Old people are individuals, not a bunch of useless babbling dotards. Please stop digging yourself farther into your hole of ageism. You're promoting a very offensive ageist stereotype that doesn't even apply to Matthews, who has been behaving this way for decades. You really need to stop it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
28. Ageism is the last "acceptable" prejudice and I hate to see it on DU.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:49 AM
Feb 2019

It's hurtful, just like all other forms of bigotry. Please think about that before you go spouting off about useless old people who talk too much.

TeamPooka

(24,220 posts)
31. Everything you hate about Matthews that you just listed, he has been doing for decades
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:52 AM
Feb 2019

and your constant re-iteration of your prejudice is making me disinterested in any other opinions you may have in the future.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
37. I wonder what they'd say about Matthews if he was female or a PoC?
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:01 AM
Feb 2019

And I wonder why it's OK on DU to speak degradingly of senior citizens while it wouldn't be acceptable to say the same kinds of things about any other group of people?

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
18. It's his loathsome personality that is so wrong for a news talk show.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:36 AM
Feb 2019

He's dense, he's self-centered, he's indifferent to others, other than occassional hero-worship of odd people like George W., and has never treated his guests with proper respect. He's childish. He spits a lot when he speaks. He has a grotesque frog in his throat which never leaves. It almost triggers a gag response at times.

He looks like a pig, he acts like a pig.

However, to be completely honest, he has a few flaws, for sure, too.

GaYellowDawg

(4,446 posts)
23. He's the Lou Holtz of politics.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:40 AM
Feb 2019

ESPN let Lou Holtz hang around far too long. MSNBC needs to ditch Matthews. Not because of his age, but because he’s not good at his job.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
25. Joy needs to replace Tweety in that time slot.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:43 AM
Feb 2019

Demote him to earlier. Maybe put him in Chuck Todd's hour. That's a wasted hour anyway.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
30. I don't have an issue with Tweety's age at all.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:52 AM
Feb 2019

I do have an issue with his grasp of current issues. That and he seems to laugh at inappropriate times during serious conversations.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
36. Chris Matthews is still very good once in a while
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:01 AM
Feb 2019

He can think like a swing voter, which isn't popular around here but it definitely is relevant.

He can also ask questions his guests are not prepared for.

These days he definitely is not as prepared day to day. I don't mind that because I prefer big picture generalities but I realize most viewers want to fixate on whatever took place that day.

still_one

(92,126 posts)
42. LOL I don't care for him, and I am no spring chicken, but I don't like posts that imply anti-age
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:50 AM
Feb 2019

bias either

DFW

(54,338 posts)
46. They should at least change the name of his show
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 04:27 AM
Feb 2019

Make it more reflective of what goes on there.

I've only seen parts of it a few times, as I don't get US TV, but from what I've seen, it should be called "Blowhard Ball."

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
60. I call it "Hairball" because Matthews just pukes stuff up randomly
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:49 PM
Feb 2019

like a cat barfing on your best rug.

lamp_shade

(14,827 posts)
48. I'm a huge Matthews fan and loooong time admirer and I find it pretty easy to...
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 04:48 AM
Feb 2019

forgive and forget those rare occasions when he says something that pisses me off.

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
51. When I'm able to...
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:41 AM
Feb 2019

...watch these early shows, I like Nicolle and Ari... Chuck Todd and Chris Matthews are not as interesting... Eventually, I would like to see Ron Reagan replace Matthews and Joy Reid replace Todd. I know that Reid lost her daily show earlier, but I think she's become a better journalist and can carry a MTP show, now.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
55. I stopped watching him long ago,
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:33 AM
Feb 2019

He can't do anything but ramble on while interrupting his panel guests over and over again with his nonsense. Couldn't watch him anymore. He's out of touch with it all . They need to let him go, and replace him with another progressive.

Dem_4_Life

(1,765 posts)
58. Chris has his moments but I still like him at times. Rachel once stated that she looked up to him.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 10:00 AM
Feb 2019

I found that so odd but she said out of all the MSNBC hosts she always admired and looked up to Chris Matthews. I found it cute at the time and it really stood out since I wouldn't initially think that she would.

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